Most plotholed film of 2012?

wow this broke into a TDKR plot hole battle. I figured this would happen though.

Some call it "plot hole central" but after all its just a movie. I admittedly Thought TDKR was the weakest of all of nolans films and I recognize plot holes but in truth I don't see how it matters. The film was a success and people liked it. I think the thing about the plot holes are...at lest in my case...People who are more often board with it(or any movie) or just plain didn't like it tend to notice the plot holes a lot more. Ones who did like it think of ways the holes can be filled. Either way I say at least batman didn't come back and straight up hand it to bane with no explanation....that would have been a plot hole to be upset about.

Originally posted by -Pr-
TDKR had no more plot holes than the others in the series imo, so I don't think it was that bad given the quality of the overall movie.

Prometheus... Eh, I suppose.

The last Resident Evil movie had more stupid plot holes, I thought.

Originally posted by Mindset
Batman Begins didn't have any plotholes.

Sure it did, and I'm not even talking about the few mistakes in editing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Sure it did, and I'm not even talking about the few mistakes in editing.

Labelling me a Nolan Hater suggests that you're the blind naive fanatic that's just blissful to have the wool pulled over your face.

Skywalker,not once in my ramblings on the TDKR thread, nor on this one, have you given a logical explanation to any of my questions or that of any other posters.

If a writer wrote a Batman story where Batman could all of a sudden fly, teleport through walls & kill the bad guys, the editor would pull the writer aside & point out the inconsistencies...the comic would never get published.

That's basically the point I'm trying to make.
Did Nolan really give a dam about all the plot holes?
Did anyone at any stage, pull Nolan aside & say, "Hey this script
doesn't make any sense...?"

Yes, I've seen my fair share of movies, yes, I acknowledge no movie is perfect & has their share of plot holes. However I've never felt this disenchanted with such inconsistent story-telling as TDKR left me feeling.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Yes, he has The Bat. But after landing it in the cave, he later uses it to rescue Catwoman & lands it on top of the building in Gotham. That's where it stays. Later Fox asks him if he remembers "where he left it?" to which we see Bruce taking the canvas tarpulin off The Bat...on top of the building.

Nah. He saves Catwoman first. After that we see him fly the plane into the Batcave and he gets his ass chewed out by Alfred.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
And yes, a young Bruce Wayne (with access to his inheritance) is seen travelling in Begins. Having money isn't a skill.

How would he have access to his inheritance in Begins? He was labelled dead.

He only used his money when he traveled back home, remember he was living as a criminal.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Labelling me a Nolan Hater suggests that you're the blind naive fanatic that's just blissful to have the wool pulled over your face.

Skywalker,not once in my ramblings on the TDKR thread, nor on this one, have you given a logical explanation to any of my questions or that of any other posters.

If a writer wrote a Batman story where Batman could all of a sudden fly, teleport through walls & kill the bad guys, the editor would pull the writer aside & point out the inconsistencies...the comic would never get published.

That's basically the point I'm trying to make.
Did Nolan really give a dam about all the plot holes?
Did anyone at any stage, pull Nolan aside & say, "Hey this script
doesn't make any sense...?"

Yes, I've seen my fair share of movies, yes, I acknowledge no movie is perfect & has their share of plot holes. However I've never felt this disenchanted with such inconsistent story-telling as TDKR left me feeling.

dude , come down.. you are a Nolan hater and it is obvious.. lol .. maybe you should pick up several batman comics and read them .. Like I said Nolan is NOT IN THE BUSINESS of worrying about what haters think and NEITHER ARE STUDIOS.. that is what this thread is all about for people to come in rant about plotholes to cover up their Nolan hate... Just admit the film didn't meet your requirements and move on from it.. like I said it doen't take a genius to figure things out, in fact my 13 year old nephew who doesn't even read the comics and being that The Dark Knight Rises was his very first taste of a Batman film figured out how it was so easy for Bruce Wayne to get into Gotham City without Bane knowing about it.

in fact reading your posts and ares834's posts clearly establish your hate because otherwise ares wouldn't have to correct you

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
dude , come down.. you are a Nolan hater and it is obvious.. lol .. maybe you should pick up several batman comics and read them .. Like I said Nolan is NOT IN THE BUSINESS of worrying about what haters think and NEITHER ARE STUDIOS.. that is what this thread is all about for people to come in rant about plotholes to cover up their Nolan hate... Just admit the film didn't meet your requirements and move on from it.. like I said it doen't take a genius to figure things out, in fact my 13 year old nephew who doesn't even read the comics and being that The Dark Knight Rises was his very first taste of a Batman film figured out how it was so easy for Bruce Wayne to get into Gotham City without Bane knowing about it.

in fact reading your posts and ares834's posts clearly establish your hate because otherwise ares wouldn't have to correct you

Originally posted by Arachnid1
No ones a Nolan hater just because they noticed everything that was wrong with TDKR. Nolan is one of my favorite directors, and I love all his movies, but TDKR wasn't his best work. The problems were just too numerous and obvious. It doesn't mean it wasn't an outstanding movie, or that Nolan cant direct. It just had a ton of plot holes and the worse pacing out of the three Nolan Batman movies.

nah i will fervently believe people are Nolan haters just because he didn't give them what they wanted to see in the dark knight rises or for that matter batman begins and the dark knight..

actually the dark knight rises is one of his best work

Originally posted by Mindset
OK, what are the plotholes?

How Bruce won't kill but will blow up a monastary? And engage in a dangerous high speed chase?
The Waynes heading out a dingy side door in to an alley beside an opera house? Even if that was the actor's entrance, it would be better maintained.
If the microwave emitter vaporises water, how come nobody was boiled alive when the water inside their own bodies was vaporised?

And that's just off the top of my head...

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FTR, I enjoyed DKR more than DK...

Originally posted by ares834
Nah. He saves Catwoman first. After that we see him fly the plane into the Batcave and he gets his ass chewed out by Alfred.

How would he have access to his inheritance in Begins? He was labelled dead.

Yes, I concede I was wrong re: The Bat.
Playing the sequence back in my mind, Bats drops Catwoman off on top of the building & THEN flies to the cave & leaves The Bat there.
I'll gladly accept that Bruce later uses The Bat to sneak back into Gotham from Wayne Manor.

This still leaves that nagging matter of how he got back from the pit so fast...penniless, reputation ruined & a "time bomb" that clearly states all this is happening within 52 hours.

Yes, in Begins, as far as Wayne Industries was concerned, Alfred had registered Bruce as dead. However it would've been the Wayne Estate & not Wayne Industries that Bruce would've gained access to his inheritance. Alfred never believed he was dead & would've been a beneficiary to handle the estate's expenses.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
dude , come down.. you are a Nolan hater and it is obvious.. lol .. maybe you should pick up several batman comics and read them .. Like I said Nolan is NOT IN THE BUSINESS of worrying about what haters think and NEITHER ARE STUDIOS.. that is what this thread is all about for people to come in rant about plotholes to cover up their Nolan hate... Just admit the film didn't meet your requirements and move on from it.. like I said it doen't take a genius to figure things out, in fact my 13 year old nephew who doesn't even read the comics and being that The Dark Knight Rises was his very first taste of a Batman film figured out how it was so easy for Bruce Wayne to get into Gotham City without Bane knowing about it.

in fact reading your posts and ares834's posts clearly establish your hate because otherwise ares wouldn't have to correct you

Nowhere have I ever mentioned any of Nolan's previous movies...in fact the only other reference I made was how much I was in awe & mesmerised by Begins being the saving grace for the franchise & the "legend" of Batman.

I'm stating that Nolan got sloppy with TDKR & I'm not the only one saying that, however it's just too easy for you to a) label me a Nolan Hater then accept all the negative criticisms & b) hide & use your 13 yr old nephew's opinion that Nolan clearly did no wrong.

It isn't 52 hours on the timer, it's 52 days.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
It isn't 52 hours on the timer, it's 52 days.

There was clearly 4 digits on the timer.
52: x x

The x x was counting down by seconds.

So what kind of timer counts down by days & seconds only?

What kind of clock counts by hours and seconds only?

Hours wouldn't make sense in that context either. Why would you have hours but not minutes? In the finsl hour, you wouldn't be able to tell if you had 40 minutes to diffuse it, or 5.

The clock itself is probably the plot-hole. Even if it was 52 hours, a reliable timer would have minutes. If it was days, the timer would have hours and at least minutes.

It probably had seconds for the sake of dramatic tension.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Nowhere have I ever mentioned any of Nolan's previous movies...in fact the only other reference I made was how much I was in awe & mesmerised by Begins being the saving grace for the franchise & the "legend" of Batman.

I'm stating that Nolan got sloppy with TDKR & I'm not the only one saying that, however it's just too easy for you to a) label me a Nolan Hater then accept all the negative criticisms & b) hide & use your 13 yr old nephew's opinion that Nolan clearly did no wrong.

dude i don;t have to hide... its you and other haters.. he put out a good movie whether you and others want to admit it or not.. also i can deal with negative criticism but the thing is I don;t care.. studios don;t care either since the man work on anything he damn well pleases.. Nolan didn;t do anything wrong, he just didn;t put out the type of film you wanted him too.. you and others are the ones crying he did something wrong however critics(who i don't care about either, but they are there) loved the film and millions upon millions of people around the world agree with me... its only the people on message boards such as this one that are crying about the plotholes and not the people who saw this multiple times in the theater and who have bought dvd/blu ray

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker

actually the dark knight rises is one of his best work

Maybe you & your 13 yr old nephew can explain me this?

The scene on the rooftop where Catwoman gets cornered by Bane's henchmen & Bats comes to her rescue. They fight briefly & then Bats jumps into The Bat, followed by Catwoman.

Then Batman decides to fly away.
I mean why didn't he stay & fight? He's in a bullet-proof vehicle equipped with heavy artillery clearly having the advantage over Bane & his henchmen....& yet he flies away.

Later we see Bruce sucking up to Selina asking her to lead Batman to Bane's lair.

So Batman had the advantage but didn't use only to have to track Bane later into unfamiliar territory...losing his edge & the battle.

Prometheus and MIB 3

Originally posted by Tzeentch._

The clock itself is probably the plot-hole.

It probably had seconds for the sake of dramatic tension.

That's where I thought Nolan's sense of story telling suffered the most, he lost grasp of time in the movie...there clearly was no feeling of impending doom to Gotham towards the end of the movie.

The other time plot hole was the bike chase from the stock exchange.It started mid-afternoon & ended up late in the night...a chase that went on for over 5 hours!