Most plotholed film of 2012?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
actually no as you are the one missing the point.. I brought up Batman Begins to prove a point, which you missed

facepalmfacepalm why would Nolan waste the audiences time with something thats not even needed.. you claim that Batman is your favorite character then why exactly are you questioning things that Batman can easily do?

Oh Bruce Bruce Bruce....what point in Begins did I miss?
That Bruce stole from his own company???

Get your facts straight again, technically & from a legal point of view, he got caught ATTEMPTING to steal. Bruce had no need for whatever electronic devices were in those boxes...HIS ENTIRE MOTIVE was to get thrown in jail so he could work out his inner demons & take out his violent anger on criminals.
Once again. BRUCE DID NOT STEAL. He put himself in the company of crims whose intentions were to steal. He was only guilty by association.

Why would Nolan waste screen time on sweeping long shots of buildings when a Batman movie should be more character driven then a tourist guide for America?

Yes, Batman is my favourite character. When a competent writer is behind his stories then I have no need to question what he is capable of doing. Nor would I have any need to whine about the ridiculous situations Nolan put him in.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Oh Bruce Bruce Bruce....what point in Begins did I miss?
That Bruce stole from his own company???

Get your facts straight again, technically & from a legal point of view, he got caught ATTEMPTING to steal. Bruce had no need for whatever electronic devices were in those boxes...HIS ENTIRE MOTIVE was to get thrown in jail so he could work out his inner demons & take out his violent anger on criminals.
Once again. BRUCE DID NOT STEAL. He put himself in the company of crims whose intentions were to steal. He was only guilty by association.

Why would Nolan waste screen time on sweeping long shots of buildings when a Batman movie should be more character driven then a tourist guide for America?

Yes, Batman is my favourite character. When a competent writer is behind his stories then I have no need to question what he is capable of doing. Nor would I have any need to whine about the ridiculous situations Nolan put him in.

lol thanks for always making me laugh.. this is better than silly comedies 😆 😆 😆 😆

Because Nolan doesn't have to.. there is no need for him to spend time showing bruce wayne constantly changing in and out of costume or showing him get into and out of town..

Nolan is a competent writer , and you have once again affirmed your hate for him .. you see just because you didn;t like how he wrote Batman doesn;t make him incompetent, but it makes you a hater.. if WB wanted a different type of story they would have hired someone entirely different after Nolan had success with Batman Begins, they didn;t as the same team wrote the dark knight followed by the dark knight rises.. you are also forgetting that different writers have written Batman throughout his history in comics as well

Oh Bruce, I may make you laugh but you simply cannot grasp just how much denial you view Nolan's take on Batman.

I saw this thread, thought "There'll be that one fagg- Yup."
"Dark Knight Rises" doesn't have plotholes. Just because it didn't show something trivial and semantic doesn't mean it's a plothole, geniuses. Nolan's whole movie is set up in order for you to go "Well, if A resulted in C, then obviously B was *insert obviousness here,* but it's so simple that a 5 year old could know it immediately so there's no need to put it in the movie that's already two and a half hours long."

Originally posted by Mr. Rhythmic
I saw this thread, thought "There'll be that one fagg- Yup."
"Dark Knight Rises" doesn't have plotholes. Just because it didn't show something trivial and semantic doesn't mean it's a plothole, geniuses. Nolan's whole movie is set up in order for you to go "Well, if A resulted in C, then obviously B was *insert obviousness here,* but it's so simple that a 5 year old could know it immediately so there's no need to put it in the movie that's already two and a half hours long."

I knew this would turn into the DKR argument. It does have lots of plot holes. Some people are bothered by the plot holes and some aren't. Thats really all that needs to be said.

Originally posted by -kV-
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Dark Knight Rises Plot Holes

...Wow. Most of those were already explained in the movie, or they are the nitpickiest of nitpicks in all of nitpickdom. I'll do a few of the most ignorant, though.

"Unaddressed Issue: How did Bruce Wayne get back in Gotham city? He had a few days to do it so it is not that farfetched of an idea to conceive. But – he was malnourished, beaten, penniless, stuck in Shitistan and he got inside the most heavily guarded city on Earth. Did he use a secret tunnel? Did he use George Clooney’s Bat-skates to cross the river? That could work as an explanation –but I pulled it out of my ass, nothing in the movie implied for an easy way for Bruce to show up again in the city. He just teleported there like a video game character using a scroll of town portal."

Answer: He's Bruce "Money out of my armpits" Wayne. He travelled the planet for almost his entire life, and has people within his own company that had connections that far exceeded Gotham. It's amazing that this is still a thing.

"Unaddressed Issue: Batman saved Gotham from a nuclear explosion. Booyah! Too bad the nuclear explosion still occurred a few miles away from the city. Here’s the title for the next installment: Nuclear Fallout: Rise of Robin’s hospital night-shift."

Answer: Except it's a fusion energy reactor, and it was never stated at all that it contained radioactivity. Its explosions had the traits of a nuclear bomb, but by how much isn't necessary. Bane wasn't going "Mutations bwahaha," he wanted to blow Gotham the **** up.

"Unaddressed Issue: If Bruce Wayne is alive at the coffee table at the end - how come no one recognizes him? After all, he is the famous dead billionaire of Gotham City. Would you recognize Steve Jobs if he was taking a coffee right beside you?"

Answer: Someone said it earlier, actually. After all that shit going down, Bruce presumed dead, and Wayne Industries at that point 8 years later becoming mostly nothing but a bucket of money just laying there, not to mention he has no personnel, no photographers, nothing to specifically tell you it's Bruce Wayne, who would even notice?

"Unaddressed Issue: Why did Bane and Talia want to die with Gotham? Why did Bane and Talia want to give 5 months of anarchy to Gotham before blowing it up…..instead of just blowing it up? Why did Talia want to finish her father’s will if she hated him? Why did Talia want to finish her father’s will if Gotham was not the same corrupted city it used to be with all the mobsters in prison? Why did Marion Cottillard play Talia’s death scene like a FOX Kids cartoon character?"

Answer: This is just... Dude, they explained that all IN THE MOVIE. I just picked this one out to laugh at how people are so in need of plot holes that they seriously ignore points made in the movie.
Talia loathed her father, and yet by oath of saving her and recognizing her as his daughter, she became in debt to him for this. She wanted to die with Gotham, as did Bane, because they believed it to be Rah's final Destiny, that Gotham was the ultimate source that they could all be liberated from.
"Why did Bane and Talia give 5 months of anarchy..." Apparently they took a piss during the speech in the theater when Bane EXPLAINS EXACTLY WHY. Jesus.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Oh Bruce, I may make you laugh but you simply cannot grasp just how much denial you view Nolan's take on Batman.

that is because Nolan did a great job.. again just simply say you didn't like how Nolan treated Batman.. while others like me and the millions around the world disagree with you

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I knew this would turn into the DKR argument. It does have lots of plot holes. Some people are bothered by the plot holes and some aren't. Thats really all that needs to be said.

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Originally posted by Mr. Rhythmic
...Wow. Most of those were already explained in the movie, or they are the nitpickiest of nitpicks in all of nitpickdom. I'll do a few of the most ignorant, though.

"Unaddressed Issue: How did Bruce Wayne get back in Gotham city? He had a few days to do it so it is not that farfetched of an idea to conceive. But – he was malnourished, beaten, penniless, stuck in Shitistan and he got inside the most heavily guarded city on Earth. Did he use a secret tunnel? Did he use George Clooney’s Bat-skates to cross the river? That could work as an explanation –but I pulled it out of my ass, nothing in the movie implied for an easy way for Bruce to show up again in the city. He just teleported there like a video game character using a scroll of town portal."

Answer: He's Bruce "Money out of my armpits" Wayne. He travelled the planet for almost his entire life, and has people within his own company that had connections that far exceeded Gotham. It's amazing that this is still a thing.

"Unaddressed Issue: Batman saved Gotham from a nuclear explosion. Booyah! Too bad the nuclear explosion still occurred a few miles away from the city. Here’s the title for the next installment: Nuclear Fallout: Rise of Robin’s hospital night-shift."

Answer: Except it's a fusion energy reactor, and it was never stated at all that it contained radioactivity. Its explosions had the traits of a nuclear bomb, but by how much isn't necessary. Bane wasn't going "Mutations bwahaha," he wanted to blow Gotham the **** up.

"Unaddressed Issue: If Bruce Wayne is alive at the coffee table at the end - how come no one recognizes him? After all, he is the famous dead billionaire of Gotham City. Would you recognize Steve Jobs if he was taking a coffee right beside you?"

Answer: Someone said it earlier, actually. After all that shit going down, Bruce presumed dead, and Wayne Industries at that point 8 years later becoming mostly nothing but a bucket of money just laying there, not to mention he has no personnel, no photographers, nothing to specifically tell you it's Bruce Wayne, who would even notice?

"Unaddressed Issue: Why did Bane and Talia want to die with Gotham? Why did Bane and Talia want to give 5 months of anarchy to Gotham before blowing it up…..instead of just blowing it up? Why did Talia want to finish her father’s will if she hated him? Why did Talia want to finish her father’s will if Gotham was not the same corrupted city it used to be with all the mobsters in prison? Why did Marion Cottillard play Talia’s death scene like a FOX Kids cartoon character?"

Answer: This is just... Dude, they explained that all IN THE MOVIE. I just picked this one out to laugh at how people are so in need of plot holes that they seriously ignore points made in the movie.
Talia loathed her father, and yet by oath of saving her and recognizing her as his daughter, she became in debt to him for this. She wanted to die with Gotham, as did Bane, because they believed it to be Rah's final Destiny, that Gotham was the ultimate source that they could all be liberated from.
"Why did Bane and Talia give 5 months of anarchy..." Apparently they took a piss during the speech in the theater when Bane EXPLAINS EXACTLY WHY. Jesus.

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As much as I enjoy the movies, I hope nobody ever makes Batman movies like these again.

Originally posted by -Pr-
As much as I enjoy the movies, I hope nobody ever makes Batman movies like these again.

I think it will just depend on how the next team wants to do their interpretation

If it's not like Arkham, I'm not going to be as interested.

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Originally posted by Kazenji
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it truly is so simple regarding the alleged plotholes in the dark knight rises.. but of course how bruce wayne got back into town really isn;t one

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