Achilles vs Daredevil

Physically Achilles was about twice as strong as Matt Murdock Pound for Pound, and he weighed more with all that muscle mass.

Achilles was pretty close to a cro-magnum man, obviously he built muscle faster than any modern man could, and he had achieved maximum muscle mass for his body type - which was an extreme mesomorph with highly aggregated muscle fibers (spear throw).

Kingpin had achieved maximum muscle mass for an extreme endomorph who was about twice the size of Achilles, and Boagrious was an endo-mesomorph who was three times the size of Achilles (It's a movie).

If it weren't for Daredevil's radioactive sense of sound, and his other superhuman senses and how they effect his motility, he would be crucified.

The Elektra film was a whole other dimension IMO.

Originally posted by Mindset
Kirigi would have gotten his shit pushed in grecian style.

Daredevil predicted a bullets path in time to move Colin farels hands in the path of it, DD's reflexes along with his super human hearing make this a roflstomp.

Originally posted by Robtard
Low showings do not > High showings

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This isn't an easy fight.

Achilles has the shield and the sword + spear. The shield will reflect DD's billy clubs early but DD's billy clubs are held together with wire, ensuring he can return them to continue the assault. Though Achilles is a smart one and he can cut the billyclubs wire via rolling with the attack with the shield and severing the wire with his sword.

Achille's advantage is defensive assault maneuvering, Murdock can avoid this through backflips and general avoidance.

Achilles has an advantage in being a shell. Though DD has the advantage in reading every move Achilles does on the fly and adapting during the fight.

Eventually DD is going to attack Achilles lower leg area, then flip over his head and attack him from the back. If this fails he's in trouble.

DD has no high ground to retreat to. And no dark areas to take advantage of his opponent.

Achilles will win this 7/10 if not more. Dodging bullets in darkness may be impressive....but in an arena situation Achilles has the advantage.

Thing is, as DD dodges any and all of Achilles' attacks, Achilles will leave himself open for attack. Sooner or later he'll get tagged by DD.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Thing is, as DD dodges any and all of Achilles' attacks, Achilles will leave himself open for attack. Sooner or later he'll get tagged by DD.

Thing is, DD has been shown to get tagged by Elektra, meaning he is not capable of dodging all attacks from a skilled human.

Achilles on the other hand has effectively dodged or blocked every single attack thrown at him.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thing is, DD has been shown to get tagged by Elektra, meaning he is not capable of dodging all attacks from a skilled human.

Achilles on the other hand has effectively dodged or blocked every single attack thrown at him.

When he fought Bullseye, Bullseye couldnt touch him until DD's weakness was exploited.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
He was on the defensive the entire time. If he had been trying to hit her, she would not have touched him.

When he fought Bullseye, Bullseye couldnt touch him until DD's weakness was exploited.

Yes he was on the defensive, and I agree that he would have kicked the crap out of Elektra had he wanted to. The point I'm trying to make however is that DD's reflexes weren't full proof, and that he's capable of being hit by a well trained human. Achilles isn't Elektra, and he's going against DD with a sword and shield. You'll notice that DD doesn't always dodge, he also blocks a lot of times. DD can't block sword slashes like he blocks kicks and punches.

He'll have to rely on his billy club to block those hits... which is going to be pretty tough. Then we've also seen DD hit Bullseye full on the face with his club, and all that gave Bullseye was a painful hit. Achilles can probably tank a full hit on the face with the billy club (much like Bullseye did), but DD cannot tank a full hit with a sword.

Like I said before, DD is going to have hell of a hard time taking down Achilles in the weapons competition if all he has is his billy club. I'm not even saying that Achilles is superior in skill, as I'm sure we all agree that DD is the more skilled fighter. Just that Achilles has a huge advantage in arms and armor and is skilled enough to make that advantage count.

H2H DD easily takes it.

........................You think DD would actually try and block a sword strike..........................................

You seriously think that DD can just dodge EVERY single sword strike?

Yup.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Yup.

Sure sure, even though no where in the Daredevil movie was DD able to dodge ALL attacks. He needed to block as much as he ducked, even when fighting average thugs.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Sure sure, even though no where in the Daredevil movie was DD able to dodge ALL attacks. He needed to block as much as he ducked, even when fighting average thugs.

Multiple bullets from multiple shooters>>>>sword swipe.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
He dodged multiple bullets from multiple shooters.

Multiple bullets from multiple shooters>>>>sword swipe.

And yet you still see him getting hit by h2h attacks that were delivered by average thugs. Again, Achilles is not using a gun here. DD is proven to be "hittable" by billiard sticks, you think he can't be hit by a sword? If DD truly was a "bullet dodger", why does he get hit by h2h attacks?

DD manages to get out of the way of bullet trajectories and by means of maneuverability, manages to avoid getting hit. That is not the same as true bullet dodging like that used by the Matrix Agents. DD WAS able to dodge those thrown projectiles by Bullseye though, so he does have reflexes and speed that is admirable. But he's still proven to being able to get hit by brawl moves, which is what we're discussing here.

Sorry Bud, that's just the way it is.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Sorry Bud, that's just the way it is.

Any reason why you keep dodging the fact that DD gets hit by h2h attacks?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Any reason why you keep dodging the fact that DD gets hit by h2h attacks?