V(V for Vendetta) vs. Agent Smith(The Matrix)

Started by omgchos3 pages

V(V for Vendetta) vs. Agent Smith(The Matrix)

V(V for Vendetta) His his full repertoire of knives and his armor from the subway fight.

Smith has his deagle with only the one clip.

Stips: This is Smith from the first matrix. No flying, cloning or switching bodies.

Location: The subway platform where smith and neo fought. They start 10 feet away from each other.

Let the Hugo Weaving battle begin.

I think if Smith is able to fire his clip in to him, he'll win. He has the speed and durability to last. If he doesn't, or if he loses his gun somehow, I'd say V eventually stabs/cuts him to death.

The deagle does have alot of stopping power but as far as i could tell from the movies the vest he wore was pretty well bullet proof and he was fast as hell. He only died in the movie beacuse he bled out from bullets to the arms and legs. Shows a good amount of damge soak tho.

Smith was strong as hell, tho. And Agents were fast enough to dodge bullets at close range.

If he runs out of ammo, what's to stop hom from just punching V to death?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Smith was strong as hell, tho. And Agents were fast enough to dodge bullets at close range.

If he runs out of ammo, what's to stop hom from just punching V to death?


I never took they're spaz out bullet dodging to mean that they always movie that fast. It was more of a defensive reaction. Which will help if V decides to throw a knife or 2 at him. Which should alow him to close the distance.

Well, it's a one-of. I agree. If they use it as their standard dodging speed, they'd stomp tho. But as a one-of and if we base it on their demonstrated on screen speed, w/c is more easily seen, then I can certainly agree that V would keep up.

I just wish there was more of a damge soak example for smith or another agent. It usually comes down to a lethal blow or they just seem to keep on comin.

Originally posted by omgchos
I never took they're spaz out bullet dodging to mean that they always movie that fast. It was more of a defensive reaction. Which will help if V decides to throw a knife or 2 at him. Which should alow him to close the distance.
Smith managed to machine gun punch Neo at super speeds over and over in their big fight.

Originally posted by Newjak
Smith managed to machine gun punch Neo at super speeds over and over in their big fight.

I think that was another example of their bulet dodging thing. Its almost like they have to have their legs planted. But it would help if V is trying to slice away at him or throw one or two of his knives his way.

Originally posted by omgchos
I think that was another example of their bulet dodging thing. Its almost like they have to have their legs planted. But it would help if V is trying to slice away at him or throw one or two of his knives his way.
I just wanted to point out they could use it for offense as well as defense.

Agent Smith wins.

Smith is way to strong imo.

Originally posted by Newjak
I just wanted to point out they could use it for offense as well as defense.

Agent Smith wins.

Smith is way to strong imo.


His strength is definitely much higer than V's but V is a genious who's no push over. He threw his knives so hard taht two guys were knocked a god 4 feet backwards.

Originally posted by omgchos
His strength is definitely much higer than V's but V is a genious who's no push over. He threw his knives so hard taht two guys were knocked a god 4 feet backwards.
Trinity was able to jump into the air and kick a man back quite a few feet and she was nowhere near strong enough to take on an Agent.

Agent Smith was also a very capable fighter, and Neo who probably is a better fighter than V couldn't put him down with his attacks.

Originally posted by Newjak
Trinity was able to jump into the air and kick a man back quite a few feet and she was nowhere near strong enough to take on an Agent.

Agent Smith was also a very capable fighter, and Neo who probably is a better fighter than V couldn't put him down with his attacks.


She never actually took on an agent tho, as they were always told to run. Most of neos fighting prowess came from all his training. That whole there is no spoon thing. It was a mental block keeping him from beating smith. V managed to take down i think it was 8 men in the space of time it took one of them to reload. Hes definitely got the skills to take on smith.

Originally posted by omgchos
She never actually took on an agent tho, as they were always told to run. Most of neos fighting prowess came from all his training. That whole there is no spoon thing. It was a mental block keeping him from beating smith. V managed to take down i think it was 8 men in the space of time it took one of them to reload. Hes definitely got the skills to take on smith.
She was told to run because fighting an Agent means death as in everyone who did it before dies.

Smith took Morphius apart, and he was incredibly skilled as well. Probably equal to or better than V especially if you take into account the later movies.

Originally posted by Newjak
She was told to run because fighting an Agent means death as in everyone who did it before dies.

Smith took Morphius apart, and he was incredibly skilled as well. Probably equal to or better than V especially if you take into account the later movies.


Thats why i made sure to not use them lol. Otherwise smith roflstomps obciously.

Originally posted by omgchos
Thats why i made sure to not use them lol. Otherwise smith roflstomps obciously.
I'm talking about if you take Morphius' feats from the later movies into account.

Even if you just rely on the feats for Morpheius from the first Matrix movie he himself would arguably beat V.

Smith can demolish Morphius, so I don't believe V will be able to beat Smith.

His best feat from what i remember was punching neo into that beam when they first fought. With the humans its all mind over matter as the matrix can be bent according to ones will power. Albeit to a small degree. With the agents they have a fixed amount of speed, power etc. If V can overcome that threshold then he can beat smith.

Originally posted by omgchos
His best feat from what i remember was punching neo into that beam when they first fought. With the humans its all mind over matter as the matrix can be bent according to ones will power. Albeit to a small degree. With the agents they have a fixed amount of speed, power etc. If V can overcome that threshold then he can beat smith.
He could also jump 15 feet into the air, and jump across building rooftops across a street.

He was also better than or equal to Trinity and was an incredible martial artists.

He has feats above V plain and simple.

Smith wasn't skilled at all, just very strong and fast.

His punches were telegraphed, he didn't keep his guard up, hell, I can't remember him blocking a single punch.

He's still strong and fast enough to dominate V though.

Morpheus>Trinity>V.

And Agents are completely beyond normal human capacity through neurokinetic augmentation. Smith is thousands of times stronger and faster than V.

Neo had a copy of the Source Code because the Architect desinged him through genetic engineering to be empathetic to his human comrades so that when it was time for him to use the Source Code to pick the last humans to survive, he would. When he became aware and started visualizing the Matrix through code he had limitless capabilities. The Oracle also carried the Source Codes, when she became a Smith, that Smith had the same powers as Neo. Smith could replicate because when Neo erased him apart of his code was printed off onto Smith, the corrupting the program and allowing it to transfer in more than one body at a time, ergo duplicate - as Neo cut off Smith's normal ability to do so when deleting this operation and killing him...AKA corrupting his programming.