Smith is too strong, too fast, and too skilled for V. For those saying that Smith isn't a skilled fighter: Neo downloaded and mastered nearly every martial art he could get in the first movie... yet he barely survived a fist fight with Smith. Morpheus was also extremely trained, yet was beaten up by Smith. You may not see Smith doing some spinning Boyka kicks, but you can't deny that he is a very capable h2h fighter.
Plus he has that whole bullet-dodging, speed-punching feats... which is better than anything V has done.
Originally posted by FrothByteSmith is much stronger and faster than Neo and Morpheus.
Smith is too strong, too fast, and too skilled for V. For those saying that Smith isn't a skilled fighter: Neo downloaded and mastered nearly every martial art he could get in the first movie... yet he barely survived a fist fight with Smith. Morpheus was also extremely trained, yet was beaten up by Smith. You may not see Smith doing some spinning Boyka kicks, but you can't deny that he is a very capable h2h fighter.Plus he has that whole bullet-dodging, speed-punching feats... which is better than anything V has done.
He didn't beat them because he was the better fighter.
He uses no fancy supah wushu like everyone else, right, but that isn't why I say he isn't skilled.
I say he isn't skilled because of how heavily telegraphed his punches and kicks are, and the fact that he doesn't seem to be familiar with the concept of blocking. He and the other Agents get by on sheer power and resilience. Notice how when Smith grabs an opponent, it isn't for a hold or a takedown, he just bodily flings them with his superior strength.
Originally posted by Placidity
Why do you think Smith is faster?They can both dodge bullets. The reason Neo got hit was because of the way he tried to dodge the bullets, which was retarded really, his legs were stationary, and his body was on the same plane the whole time.
A. Read Mindset's post.
B. Smith was able to dominate Neo for a time with flurries of superspeed punches, Neo was on the ropes from that assault.
By showings, Smith had more raw speed.
Originally posted by omgchos
I never took they're spaz out bullet dodging to mean that they always movie that fast.
No did I. I was more like a special ability that was unlocked when needed to dodge bullets. If they could move that fast regularly, then they wouldn't be fighting at human speeds. 🙂
The only time Smith pulled out movement like that in a fight (before movie 3) was in a repeated sequence where he punches Neo in the chest in the first film.
Originally posted by Placidity
Why do you think Smith is faster?They can both dodge bullets. The reason Neo got hit was because of the way he tried to dodge the bullets, which was retarded really, his legs were stationary, and his body was on the same plane the whole time.
Agents also dodged bullets by having their lower bodies remain stationary while only the upper body moves. That indicates that in the first movie at least (prior to the end), Neo wasn't quite as fast as an agent yet.
Originally posted by dadudemon
No did I. I was more like a special ability that was unlocked when needed to dodge bullets. If they could move that fast regularly, then they wouldn't be fighting at human speeds. 🙂The only time Smith pulled out movement like that in a fight (before movie 3) was in a repeated sequence where he punches Neo in the chest in the first film.
No bullet dodger from any film always moves as fast as he's suppose to be.
Spiderman in the first film was fast enough that Flash's punches looked slow-mo yet we never seem him utilize super speed after that.
Yu-Law in the One mowed down police as they were in slow mo, but after that we never see him move in super speed again.
Heck, even Superman in just about every Superman movie (cartoons included) never really consistently moves at the speeds he's supposed to.
One day I will be able to talk like Smith/Obama/Sagan.
BACK ON TOPIC
The Dude is WRONG! Nah, but even if he's right and dodging bullets is a special move, what does it even matter!?
The Agents were designed to take out people like Morpheus and the crew of the Neverkenezer. The free mind is dangerous because they can break the rules of the Matrix, to a small degree. The purpose of the Agents is to overpower the free mind, they are installed with the capability to kill any human who isn't Neo (who's mind contains the necessary coding know-how to rewrite the system as he sees fit).
V is DEAD.