This doesn't need a bump... This does not need a bump 😐
The greatest strength feat comes from SS3 Gotenks' Vollyball attack, its Town level.
This strength could not do much to a character that routinely takes planetary class punches.
The greatest speed feat comes from SS1 Gotenks circling the globe, its 1/1,000th or 1/100th light speed.
Superman normally hits/competes with FTL characters, from several times faster to massively FTL. Speed approaching relativistic are far slower than him.
The greatest destruction feat comes from Kid Buu violently destroying the Earth, its Large Planet level.
Superman survives supernovas, and dozens of them at once. The strongest DB attacks could probably harm him, but will be so far from major damage that it wouldn't matter.
The greatest durability limit feat comes from Cell being 'killed' by SS1 Vegeta's blast, which has been twice said to be just below planetary.
Superman's Planetary+ attacks will pass these limits. Even to push it and say he cant one-hit KO, only means he'll have to unleash more punishment.
SS Vegito, the strongest non-BoG character, does not have the feats to contend with Superman. The only thing that may do so is Post-BoG feats, but thats the only chance DB gets 😬
Post 5 instances of Superman fighting at FTL. Please do, since it is a common showing, you should be able to find some instances real quick.
And SSJ Gotenks went through the globe multiple times in about 10 minutes and this is counting the nap he took during that interval. Who cares about movement speed though.
http://i.imgur.com/CmIRZ.png
Post one FTL speed feat for DB awesome
In most, if not all of Supes speed feats we have him demonstrating both FTL speed and FTL reactions.. but Im assuming that Superman can move and react at this speed but obviously can't fight at that speed, right?
Superman has numerous FTL feats.. DB's best, as you've posted, is a small fraction of Light speed. Speed is not even close here.
Originally posted by bbrem123If this is the case why are you the one throwing a tantrum when feats cannot be supplied that allow the Z fighters to even be in Superman or Thor's tier?
he shows proof and you say it isnt...like i said in the other thread you are just ignorant and dont want your comic characters losing to anime...get over it
Supes and Thor have FTL showings, Z fighters do not. Ergo, Superman and Thor are faster. Sucks but it's how it is.
Love it when people use the "grr you're just biased so your fav char wins" card. Me being a massive DB fan and never reading comics sure does make me biased for Thor :T
No. Both he and yourself post feats neither of you can quantify and claim you must be right. You post a scan of Gotenks flying around and a beam shooting into space and call it light speed without saying how and why.
Example: Superman is FTL because he can comfortably react to nanosecond timeframes. He's FTL because he flew to the Sun and back in under 2 mins. He's FTL because he flew to Saturn in under 4 mins. He's FTL because he covered 25 lightyears to in a short amount of time. He's FTL because he flew to Earth from another galaxy in a couple hours.
Originally posted by BloodRain
The greatest calced strength feat comes from Buutenks smashing Gohan's ki blast through the planet, it was calced to be continent level.The greatest speed feat comes from Whis traveling multiple light years in less than a day if you include BOG or SS1 Gotenks circling the globe if you don't, its mach 31,016.474.
The greatest calced destruction feat comes from Kid Buu violently destroying the Earth, its small star level.
The greatest durability feat comes from the characters being able to take their own ki blast.
Originally posted by Nevan
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Whis did not use normal flight. And assuming no movement for a single panel image..?
(Dun goofed, I was meant to say Multi-Planet not Large >_> only remembered the several Jupiter busting and forgot the several part lol)
The 3 times its been calced its given High-e38, 3.5e39 and 5.43e40. So while its between high Multi-Planetary and Low-Stellar, both are still between 0.5%-8% of whats needed to destroy our Sun. 0.002%-0.04% of a Supernova, aka what Superman has taken.
No. Their attacks have routinely damaged each other yet are only Town level in strength. That, and a sharp tree was about to kill Krillin and Gohan (awesome) and mostly is that Vegeta's attack twice stated to be weakened so not to destroy the Earth would have killed Cell if not for his regeneration.
http://www.dbz.tv/3/watch/dragonball-z-episode-265/
watch this episode and tell me goku cant compete with superman...if you do then you are foolish