Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So why does this not hold true for "while blasting him" Wolverine?We give costumes the benefit of the doubt but not Wolvskeleton who is pretty factly less durable than Cap's shield?
While ignoring that Thor had a pretty necklace that ****ing depowered him, that got taken off right before he blasted Cap?
Or that all we seen of Wolverine was while he was getting blasted to start, while we only got a view of Cap's skull during the blast.Or you're trolling, but you know that already.
Because the writer was focused on the claws, trying to show the reader that the OF is capable of even warping adamantium. We are not supposed to look at the clothes. This is common sense.
KT wasn't depowered when he blasted Wolverine. Strange was putting it on after KT initially blasted. The necklace didn't take effect until after the warping of the claws. Normal Thor can't blast through the eyes.
I'm talking about Cap's shield, not his skull.
Originally posted by h1a8I was going to write a smarter reply, but it's you, so...
Because the writer was focused on the claws, trying to show the reader that the OF is capable of even warping adamantium. We are not supposed to look at the clothes. This is common sense.KT wasn't depowered when he blasted Wolverine. Strange was putting it on after KT initially blasted. The necklace didn't take effect until after the warping of the claws. Normal Thor can't blast through the eyes.
I'm talking about Cap's shield, not his skull.
Using your logic, Cap's skull, Wolverine's hair and jacket are more durable than adamantium and Cap's shield.
We know what the writer was focused on because... why the shit not (clearly not just trying to show Thor killing everyone, while ignoring the details)? And the writer was focused on showing that his clothes are more durable. Fact.
Strange put it on after he blasted... Use your eyes. The thing was glowing before he blasted Wolves.
Normal Thor can't kill Hulk and Thing with one hand. It happened.
But his skull's more durable since it wasn't even warped.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I was going to write a smarter reply, but it's you, so...Using your logic, Cap's skull, Wolverine's hair and jacket are more durable than adamantium and Cap's shield.
We know what the writer was focused on because... why the shit not (clearly not just trying to show Thor killing everyone, while ignoring the details)? And the writer was focused on showing that his clothes are more durable. Fact.Strange put it on after he blasted... Use your eyes. The thing was glowing before he blasted Wolves.
Normal Thor can't kill Hulk and Thing with one hand. It happened.
But his skull's more durable since it wasn't even warped.
But your logic would invalidate every feat there is. All feats of durability have the character's clothes surviving. This is comics. So are you saying that King Thor's feat is invalid since he didn't manage to harm the clothes or skull?
You are right, KT blasted after Strange put the necklace on. But Strange seemed to invoke the power after KT blasted. See his hands performing a spell of action after.
Originally posted by h1a8No they don't.
But your logic would invalidate every feat there is. All feats of durability have the character's clothes surviving. This is comics. So are you saying that King Thor's feat is invalid since he didn't manage to harm the clothes or skull?You are right, KT blasted after Strange put the necklace on. But Strange seemed to invoke the power after KT blasted. See his hands performing a spell of action after.
I'm saying it's ****ing retarded to focus on "warped" vs shattered, when Adamantium is a failed attempt at Cap's shield, Cap's shield has endured worse, and the warped is in the middle of an attack as opposed to the end, like Cap's shield.
If you're going to focus on how much worse King Thor blasted the shit out of one of them when he destroyed both, you might as well focus on clothes since you're nitpicking so much.
What spell did he perform? Why does an already glowing amulet from the council elite Godheads of Earth need a spell from a puny Dr in Strange to work?
In other words, prove Strange invoked its power.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
No they don't.I'm saying it's ****ing retarded to focus on "warped" vs shattered, when Adamantium is a failed attempt at Cap's shield, Cap's shield has endured worse, and the warped is in the middle of an attack as opposed to the end, like Cap's shield.
If you're going to focus on how much worse King Thor blasted the shit out of one of them when he destroyed both, you might as well focus on clothes since you're nitpicking so much.What spell did he perform? Why does an already glowing amulet from the council elite Godheads of Earth need a spell from a puny Dr in Strange to work?
In other words, prove Strange invoked its power.
I'm saying that he didn't destroy adamantium easier than Cap's shield which gives evidence that they are close in durability. I'm not claiming adamantium is more durable but rather they are close to each other (peers).
Strange is doing spell action with his hands. If not then can you explain what the hell he is doing with his hands then? Also, it seems clear that the writer didn't want the necklace to work until after he blasted Logan. I could be wrong but to be honest it seems crystal clear that King Thor wasn't depowered just yet when he blasted Logan. And it is believable that Thor can kill both Hulk and Thing with one arm far more than Thor can blast with his eyes warping adamantium. Especially with trees around lol.
In conclusion, I believe both are peers. If Cap's shield is more durable then it isn't by a whole lot. Easily breaking one means you could break the other.
Originally posted by h1a8Which goes back to the clothes thing.
I'm saying that he didn't destroy adamantium easier than Cap's shield which gives evidence that they are close in durability. I'm not claiming adamantium is more durable but rather they are close to each other (peers).Strange is doing spell action with his hands. If not then can you explain what the hell he is doing with his hands then? Also, it seems clear that the writer didn't want the necklace to work until after he blasted Logan. I could be wrong but to be honest it seems crystal clear that King Thor wasn't depowered just yet when he blasted Logan. And it is believable that Thor can kill both Hulk and Thing with one arm far more than Thor can blast with his eyes warping adamantium. Especially with trees around lol.
In conclusion, I believe both are peers. If Cap's shield is more durable then it isn't by a whole lot. Easily breaking one means you could break the other.
Spell actions means powering up an amulet that is already powered by the pantheons of Earth. Spell actions. Even after he stated he couldn't do it but the Earth Gods could.
Spell actions.
Thor killing Hulk and Thing with one arm and no hammer isn't more believable than anything. But it happened.
In conclusion, you're using an "in process" blast to say that Hulk could break Cap's shield. Which has only been destroyed by Skyfather level characters and above.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Which goes back to the clothes thing.
You've claimed a lot of things. You've proven dick all anywhere in this thread.Spell actions means powering up an amulet that is already powered by the pantheons of Earth. Spell actions. Even after he stated he couldn't do it but the Earth Gods could.
Spell actions.Thor killing Hulk and Thing with one arm and no hammer isn't more believable than anything. But it happened.
In conclusion, you're using an "in process" blast to say that Hulk could break Cap's shield. Which has only been destroyed by Skyfather level characters and above.
You ignored my question. What is Strange doing with his hands? Is it a spell to invoke the necklace? The necklace glowing doesn't mean the spell is invoked, just that it is ready and full of energy.
So why can't I compare damage of adamantium to that of Cap's shield when it can be done to any other substance anywhere in comics? Damage can be compared when the writer is specifically focused on a particular substance.
You must speak more clearly. I don't understand "in process blast". Nul aint Hulk.
Lastly, do you believe that adamantium is close to Cap's shield in durability?
Originally posted by h1a8What he always does. He's trying to look all cool. Half of Strange's showings ever have him in that pose. And some involve him doing butt****.
You ignored my question. What is Strange doing with his hands? Is it a spell to invoke the necklace? The necklace glowing doesn't mean the spell is invoked, just that it is ready and full of energy.So why can't I compare damage of adamantium to that of Cap's shield when it can be done to any other substance anywhere in comics? Damage can be compared when the writer is specifically focused on a particular substance.
You must speak more clearly. I don't understand "in process blast". Nul aint Hulk.
Lastly, do you believe that adamantium is close to Cap's shield in durability?
"The necklace glowing doesn't mean the spell is invoked"
lol, we're under the assumption that the spell had to be invoked by a being who didn't empower, or create the damned thing?
So, the Skyfather's and their pantheons made it, empowered it, and then said to Strange "Hey, this thing will not work unless your power allows it to work, because hey... plot hole"
Also, it's ready and full of energy... so what exactly does Strange have to invoke?
Because like I said, before, below, and now, Wolverine's adamantium hasn't withstood the stuff Cap's shield has, it's a cheap copy, it's in the process of destroying it, they both got trashed easily, and Wolverine's clothes surviving easier ruins it.
Not to mention Magneto couldn't effect Cap's shield if memory serves me right, while he tore the shit out of Wolves. Thor and Hulk have dented primary adamantium, while neither has effected Cap's shield in the least. Etc.
And another thing the clothes show is what I'll state below, it just got fired, so the damage hasn't even started. Unless we follow you logic, then the clothes are just plain more durable.
Again with this writer intent shit. The writer didn't draw it.
And if anything, the writer just wanted Thor to kill everyone. You think the writer sat there and wanted the artist to draw Thor just hitting the claws and showing them warped to shit, and then wanted Cap's shield broken in an attempt to show comparable examples?
It was in process. We didn't see the after effects, just when it was initially fired. We don't get a full scope of damage when he just fires the blast.
It'd be like showing a blast hitting a planet, destroying the crust, and cutting away and never showing or stating what it did to this planet. We can't get a full damage assessment due to this very fact.
And speak clearly... how about pay attention.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Considering King Thor just started blasting Wolves... hell, if we use this logic, Cap's skull is also more durable than his shield.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So why does this not hold true for "while blasting him" Wolverine?Or that all we seen of Wolverine was while he was getting blasted to start, while we only got a view of Cap's skull during the blast.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
and the warped is in the middle of an attack as opposed to the end, like Cap's shield.
And no.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
What he always does. He's trying to look all cool. Half of Strange's showings ever have him in that pose. And some involve him doing butt****."The necklace glowing doesn't mean the spell is invoked"
lol, we're under the assumption that the spell had to be invoked by a being who didn't empower, or create the damned thing?
So, the Skyfather's and their pantheons made it, empowered it, and then said to Strange "Hey, this thing will not work unless your power allows it to work, because hey... plot hole"Also, it's ready and full of energy... so what exactly does Strange have to invoke?
Because like I said, before, below, and now, Wolverine's adamantium hasn't withstood the stuff Cap's shield has, it's a cheap copy, it's in the process of destroying it, they both got trashed easily, and Wolverine's clothes surviving easier ruins it.
Not to mention Magneto couldn't effect Cap's shield if memory serves me right, while he tore the shit out of Wolves. Thor and Hulk have dented primary adamantium, while neither has effected Cap's shield in the least. Etc.
And another thing the clothes show is what I'll state below, it just got fired, so the damage hasn't even started. Unless we follow you logic, then the clothes are just plain more durable.Again with this writer intent shit. The writer didn't draw it.
And if anything, the writer just wanted Thor to kill everyone. You think the writer sat there and wanted the artist to draw Thor just hitting the claws and showing them warped to shit, and then wanted Cap's shield broken in an attempt to show comparable examples?It was in process. We didn't see the after effects, just when it was initially fired. We don't get a full scope of damage when he just fires the blast.
It'd be like showing a blast hitting a planet, destroying the crust, and cutting away and never showing or stating what it did to this planet. We can't get a full damage assessment due to this very fact.
And speak clearly... how about pay attention.You need to learn to read more clearly.
And no.
K gotcha. Nothing wrong with typing more clearly. My reading level isn't all that so it's best to be clear that's all. Well said.
Originally posted by Terryc250
Why are people so surprised about Mephisto holding Thors hammer?Anyone Skyfather and up can hold Thors hammer if they so choose.
When did that happen? Last time I saw Mephisto facing off against Thor in his own realm during Kieron Gillen's run, he couldn't move mjolnir.