Who can lift Mjlonir? · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

OK, enchantments then, I guess.

Which magic characters have made more durable items when weaker?

Tech, I can see. But as ENCHANTING magical items is meant to be a manifestation of their power, a weaker magical character shouldn't be enchanting more durable items than a more powerful magic user.

I guess I just can't think of any examples off the top of my head, is all.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, Jake was disagreeing with someone who used Nul's hammer as proof in regards to Mjolnir....you then claimed what happened to Nul's hammer was proof that he could break Mjolnir.
The burden is on you.

It is proof. Nul crush it with great effort. And this is after he easily broke adamantium. Surely there is no proof that Mjolnir is greater than adamantium.

Silent Master Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
It is proof. Nul crush it with great effort. And this is after he easily broke adamantium. Surely there is no proof that Mjolnir is greater than adamantium.

It's proof in regards to Nul's hammer, not Mjolnir.

BTW, Mjolnir has dented Cap's shield and Cap's shield is >>>>>> adamantium.

Mindset Senior Member

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h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
OK, enchantments then, I guess.
Which magic characters have made more durable items when weaker?
Tech, I can see. But as ENCHANTING magical items is meant to be a manifestation of their power, a weaker magical character shouldn't be enchanting more durable items than a more powerful magic user.
I guess I just can't think of any examples off the top of my head, is all.

but look at the other possibilities.
Enchantment power being divided up for various purposes, not just durability.
Enchantment power coming from the same source (Serpent and Odin enchantment from same source).
Taking away the enchanter's choice of how durable he/she want's an item to be, for various reasons.

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Were those possibilities shown (writer's intent?)

I take it there weren't any examples, then?

Damborgson King of the Damboys

That....is very literally based on nothing.

Is there a single shred of evidence ANYWHERE that an enchantment from Odin would create weaker durability for Mjolnir due to high versatility? If there isn't...then that was very well pulled out of your ass.

Silent Master Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
I say it does mean he can break Mjolnir though.

Please provide proof.

-Pr- Hey Yo!

ABC logic isn't proof.

janus77 Banana Genius

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
They get brokedick by aggressively jamming their penis at her?

yep, well IronDick aside anyway.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's proof in regards to Nul's hammer, not Mjolnir.
BTW, Mjolnir has dented Cap's shield and Cap's shield is >>>>>> adamantium.

Cap's shield is thinner than Mjolnir so not a good test. Second, we go by history and not one showing. Mjolnir has been broken countless times by forces skyfather and under. The only time adamantium was damaged (just warped a little) was against Hulk and against Wolverine. King Thor destroyed Cap's shield far easier than he slightly warped Wolverine's adamantium.
I disagree that Cap's shield>>>>primary adamantium. Where's the proof there?

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

lol, adamantium was created in efforts to replicate the indestructibility of cap's shield

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by -Pr-
ABC logic isn't proof.

In general no, but in this case yes.
Especially when it concern's things in the very same comic. Otherwise you can't prove anything. Even Jake and some other's here is providing ABC proof as to why Mjolnir should be more durable. If a character is shown lifting a tank in a comic then of course he/she can lift a car in the same comic.

Silent Master Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
Cap's shield is thinner than Mjolnir so not a good test. Second, we go by history and not one showing. Mjolnir has been broken countless times by forces skyfather and under. The only time adamantium was damaged (just warped a little) was against Hulk and against Wolverine. King Thor destroyed Cap's shield far easier than he slightly warped Wolverine's adamantium.
I disagree that Cap's shield>>>>primary adamantium. Where's the proof there?

IOW, you disagree with the comics...as admantium was discovered in a failed attempt to replicate the metal from Cap's shield...primary admantium has literally been acknowledged as less durable for it's entire existence.

cdtm Restricted

Originally posted by psycho gundam
lol, adamantium was created in efforts to replicate the indestructibility of cap's shield

True.

Adamantium is the fail super metal.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
lol, adamantium was created in efforts to replicate the indestructibility of cap's shield

Then they stumbled upon something of equal durability maybe (or so close it's hard to tell). All I know is adamantium>>>Cap's shields from history. Cap's shield has lost stock in recent times, just like Thor.

cdtm Restricted

Originally posted by h1a8
Then they stumbled upon something of equal durability maybe (or so close it's hard to tell). All I know is adamantium>>>Cap's shields from history. Cap's shield has lost stock in recent times

How do you figure?

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

A better test might be Cap's shield vs Wolverine's claws..

But that's by the by. More powerful magic users have more powerful enchantments, otherwise, how else would you judge their power?

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you disagree with the comics...as admantium was discovered in a failed attempt to replicate the metal from Cap's shield...primary admantium has literally been acknowledged as less durable for it's entire existence.

Prove that it has been considered less durable than primary adamantium (especially when both were never damaged in the beginning). Also you know that showings>>>statements.

Branlor Swift Dead

Pr needs to make the Mayan Prophecy true for H1's account IMO.

Tomorrow Paul. Do the right thing