Who can lift Mjlonir?

Originally posted by dmills
So zero g can bypass the enchantment? And here I thought the Rulk thing was pis. This is great! Hahahahahaha!!!

Actually, now that I come to it again, it is probably more the absence of define-able GROUND that bypasses the enchantment.

Floating in space like that, not on Earth or Moon, or Mars, or anywhere with something to define "ground" for that hammer, let alone "up" or "down", there's nothing to really lift Mjolnir up FROM.

Tackling the problem that way gets around any "no lift" clauses not covered by mere gravity-negation.

Originally posted by dmills
So zero g can bypass the enchantment? And here I thought the Rulk thing was pis. This is great! Hahahahahaha!!!

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Actually, now that I come to it again, it is probably more the absence of define-able GROUND that bypasses the enchantment.

Floating in space like that, not on Earth or Moon, or Mars, or anywhere with something to define "ground" for that hammer, let alone "up" or "down", there's nothing to really lift Mjolnir up FROM.

Tackling the problem that way gets around any "no lift" clauses not covered by mere gravity-negation.

DC:
Superman
Captain Marvel
Wonder Woman
Orion

Marvel:
Captain America
Thunderstrike :>
Beta Ray Bill :>

Any Skyfather

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Are you certain the one that did THIS couldn't?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14128895

Source Information link:

http://marvel.com/comic_books/series/14697/hulk_vs_dracula_2011_-_present

Issue is Hulk versus Dracula (2011) #3.

Image: Hulk, as "Null", breaking the Asgardian Enchantment on the Serpent's Hammer (along, of course, [b]with the hammer ...) [/B]

Hulk isn't overpowering Odin's enchantment.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Illyana broke Cyttorak's enchantment on Colossus while within her own realm. A Hell-Lord is supposed to be supreme within their own realm, outside the bounds of natural law. Mephisto actually melting it and restoring it sounds more conceivable than him merely creating an illusion of such.

Even discounting that, there was the whole Galactus/Mephisto throwdown that was truly epic. Galactus needed to resort to eating Mephisto's realm for Mephisto to capitulate. Before that they were going toe to toe with neither side gaining the upper hand. I guess if we use that fight as a metric, then yes, Mephisto is more than capable of breaking Odin's enchantment (in his realm) and slagging and then recreating the hammer.

Zero gravity trick didn't work on Beta Ray Bill's hammer 😎

Horse Face >>> Latte Lover

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
DC:
Superman
Captain Marvel
Wonder Woman
Orion

Marvel:
Captain America
Thunderstrike :>
Beta Ray Bill :>

Any Skyfather

[QUOTE=14128583]Originally posted by carver9
[B]No robots.

@Pr...

You don't think there are individuals that can overpower the enchantment?

not physically no.

Originally posted by zopzop
According to Brevoort, no one save Thor can lift that hammer (even people that have previously lifted it).

He's a moron though.

Logically, any being more powerful than Odin should be able to lift the hammer by overpowering the enchantment. SUPPOSEDLY, Mephisto not only broke the enchantment (by grabbing and holding Mjolnir) he also melted it to slag then recreated it and threw it at Thor.

He was in his realm when he did this, so he was at his most powerful. However, there are people that say this was only an illusion created by Mephisto.

Breevort's opinion on the matter doesn't change what already happened though; and he already acknowledged on Formspring that Beta Ray Bill lifted the hammer during Simonson's legendary run. He just feels (feels being the keyword) that no one but Thor (even umm.. Odin) should be able to lift it. Moreover, Captain America again wielded Mjolnir towards the end of the Fear Itself event in issue #7 (a book approved by Breevort himself), and that was fairly recent.

Thor should just give his hammer to Cap.

Here are some suggestions:
1)Zeus - Skyfather
2)Count-Nefaria - probably amped but the feat himself is crazy.....
3)Maestro - Hulk - definitly can't lift M'jolnir but seem the closest being to budge a little Mjolnir with pure strenght.......
what about these scans?

http://www.imagup.com/data/1170380080.html

I am haven't read that Mephisto destroying Thor's hammer but as far as i know Mephisto never had Odin under his control so i guessing that was an illusion aas well as Mjolnir being melted down

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thor should just give his hammer to Cap.

Happens in issue# 4 of his own title. That's why Cap has long hair and a beard now. 😂

Originally posted by DarkOdin
I am haven't read that Mephisto destroying Thor's hammer but as far as i know Mephisto never had Odin under his control so i guessing that was an illusion aas well as Mjolnir being melted down

Even if the slagging was an illusion, the grasping and holding it must have been real. Otherwise the hammer would have returned to Thor's hand. It didn't return until Mephisto himself threw it back to Thor.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
😬

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14044783

Source: Incredible Hulk vol.1 #227
Writer: Roger Stern
Assist: Peter Gillis
Penciller: Sal Buscema
Inker: Klaus Janson
Colors: Glynis Wein
Editor: Bob Hall
Date: September 1978

http://www.leaderslair.com/noexcuses/hulk2-227.html

Please don't twist my words. You wouldn't like me when you twist my words.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, no, no, no, no and yes.

Although WW and Odin have already lifted it on panel, so they don't count per the OP.

Ok hercules, Odin, and CA have already lifted it on panel.
Diana only if you count crossovers.

But CM should definitely be able to lift it.
Batman is iffy and I wouldn't be surprised if he could.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok hercules, Odin, and CA have already lifted it on panel.
Diana only if you count crossovers.

But CM should definitely be able to lift it.
Batman is iffy and I wouldn't be surprised if he could.

Hercules hasn't lifted it on-panel; WW, Odin and Cap don't count because of the OP 's stips.

I see no reason for CM or Batman to be worthy.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Hercules hasn't lifted it on-panel; WW, Odin and Cap don't count because of the OP 's stips.

I see no reason for CM or Batman to be worthy.

Hercules has lifted it on panel.

Why repeat about Odin and Cap? That's a waste of time and typing.
I said WW only if crossovers count. If they don't then WW can lift it per OP stips.

CM is more worthy than Thor IMO
Batman is iffy and I don't see Cap being more worthy than him.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hercules has lifted it on panel.

Post the scan

Why repeat about Odin and Cap? That's a waste of time and typing.
I said WW only if crossovers count. If they don't then WW can lift it per OP stips.

If crossovers don't count, then there is no proof that WW can lift Mjolnir

CM is more worthy than Thor IMO
Batman is iffy and I don't see Cap being more worthy than him.

Define worthy as it pertains to lifting Mjolnir.