Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b].....Do I even want to know how or WHY Hulk has officially become "Indestructible"??? [/B]
Bruce Banner, the man whose intellect intimidates Tony Stark, has said that Hulk is basically indestructible.
That and on-panel proof that Hulk's more durable than adamantium and The Mad Thinker attempting to calculate his strength and realising that it was literally "incalculable".
Originally posted by cdtm
...Hulks invulnerable now?Does he still have a hf?
The more I hear about this Hulk, the more it's sounding like Pak's stuff is retconned out of existence..
There's none of the Banner bravura from Pak's time, no BannerTech pwning the world, no actually Banner action whatsoever.
On top of that, Hulk is basically mute. Doesn't say anything, just smashes on command... It's quite disappointing on many levels, but - as I say above - a good read, once you accept the lack of continuity.
Personally, Banner comes off not confident or admirable but as arrogant and unlikable. Tried too hard with making Banner "cool" I think, especially with the last scene with Stark, felt forced. Banner is smart, but smarter than Tony Stark? That ain't going to stick very well. Other than that, it was okay I guess. I don't like the lack of Green Scar.
I enjoyed Banner from Pak's run a lot more, he was arguably the fourth or fifth smartest person in the world (Behind Doom/Richard/Stark and Pym) but he was cunning and a quick thinker. On top of that he came off confident, he acknowledged his own power but he wasn't a dick.
Him bringing Tony out to a mountain range to unleash the Hulk on his ass because of a bruised ego? Meh. You'd think Banner better than anyone would realize how stupid it is to use the Hulk like that, especially since he seems to be Savage for most purposes now.
The whole internal monologue of Banner's was crap. It was stupid and didn't really come from anything that Marvel had previously established about the character.
Sure, Banner has every right to be more than a little pissed off with Stark, Reed and co, but WWH - He resolved that shit. They were wrong, he kicked their combined arses and, on top of that, during FOTH and WWHs, he ran rings around them in both prep and cunning terms. He didn't need to be accepted as their superior, he just proved it on panel whenever he came up against them.
Banner could be developed in to the best exemplar of the intellectual with an attitude thing, he's got Hulk to keep him at a distance from the rest of humanity and give Reed and Stark an issue over which to maintain their distrust of him.
At the same time, Hulk makes him special, beyond anything Reed or Stark can boast. He's literally a world breaker and he puts the fear of god into many a ... god.
Why he would have this petty mindset is just beyond reason. It seems like they are crow-barring him onto the path of Doom.
Make him resent his lot in life, obsess over the slights and actions of others, ignore his own potential and the positive actions he could take, but make every action in relation to others...
Anyway, yet again, it's a good read if you can accept that it's not going to build on the brilliant work of Pak or the good work done before him.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hulk never shrugged off adamantium melting rays, anyway.
Furthermore, The Mad Thinker then stated that if it works on Adamantium, think what it would do to flesh and bone ... Before watching it fail against Hulk.
This isn't the first time Hulk's been depicted as being more durable than Adamantium. It happened in Future Imperfect too. Both those instances he was being attacked by weapons that would crush/slag Adamantium and neither of them scratched him.
imo it's similar to how he can hold a planet together in one instance and in another, go rounds with Thing. Dynamic powers.
Its going to be one of those agree to disagree scenarios, I think.
Mad Thinker said that it was inspired by Ultron, now if it could melt metal, just imagine what it can do to flesh and bone.
Same way that my Sansum Note can make calls and send text messages, just like a real Samsung. But it doesn't mean that its as good as the real thing.
Originally posted by carver9
Writers intent...we know what the writer wanted us to think about Hulk durability...accept it and move on.
Then why not take the leap, and clarify it, rather than relying on intent?
That's like arguing that writer's intent is that Doomsday is faster than the Flash, as that is what Booster Gold said. Shall I now go around arguing that he can IMP people? No - that would be stupid.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Its going to be one of those agree to disagree scenarios, I think.Mad Thinker said that it was inspired by Ultron, now if it could melt metal, just imagine what it can do to flesh and bone.
Same way that my Sansum Note can make calls and send text messages, just like a real Samsung. But it doesn't mean that its as good as the real thing.
The only thing it needs to share in common with any other incarnation is that it does that essential job. In the case of the QMs - slag Adamantium.
Then there's the Future Imperfect Dogs of War thing - where they have a precise measure for the pressure/force that the robots exert - crushing Adamantium - and that too failed on Hulk.