Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilI never said he was I said he can still use magic and has casted spells before. Read the actual comments before spouting more nonsense. You're out as a possible judge by the way. You can't even comprehend a post.
If you are seriously arguing that he is just as powerfull without a wand, you need to rethink qnd rewatch for a bit, bro.
Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Link has a sword. The sword kills dorf. The sword showed no advantages against any other foes. Just because Dorf was outdueled don't blame it on the sword. Link the 17 year old deserves some credit.Wait until you see what I have in store for Link in the battlezone. I am going to shame him. Just wait and see, domme.
I didn't lowball him. You fanboys want to ignore the times he was ko'd due to being a fanboy. The only thing that counts is when he pwned the grunts. Yoda rocks, dude.
I cited Yoda fights in which he was disarmed by a continuous energy blast. Dumbledore can easily do so. Do I really need to post a video of him shooting a continuous energy beam ?
You also said he can't cast spells without wands, ignoramus. You lack a clue.
The Battlezone where no one has the power to kill him? haermm
As has already been pointed out, Yoda's worst is within a second of Dumbles' best. haermm
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda can't just simply block the more powerful lightning. If he could have he wouldn't have went flying over the senate pod. watch the scene. He can only block weaker attacks not Palpatine's lightning without any drawback.Yoda loses his saber and can't block any continuous stream of energy with his saber. Dumbledore's magic is also far more powerful than Palpatine's force lightning.
Those opponents aren't skilled. Yoda struggles against skilled opponents and can't block the beam of energy with his saber anyway. So who cares if he can block a blast blast. He isn't blocking anything with his saber.
Who cares about their skill? Skill doesnt change the speed and rapid shots of the blasters.
Yoda losing his Lightsaber from that hit was likely, again, due to the instance, not because he's unable to. Proof being that Obi-Wan could do so with Dooko, Windu with Palpy. So it is able with Jedi of this level.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilYou're ignorance speaks volumes about yourself. He lights a room on fire to show a young Tom Riddle that he does indeed possess magic. You are altogether clueless about even my simplest points.
Your comment was that he could fill a room with fire, when the only unwand fire spell he did in the movies was lighting a candle.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteSo now Link can't be killed ? The guy was clubbed out early on by Bulbin you twit. Trust me it's going to go very badly for this pussyverse. Link was clubbed and ko'd rather easily. Awful. Yet you claim he's unkillable and unstoppable. Please play the game again your memory sucks.
[b]The Master Sword. Whine all you like, it is canonically a planetary level artifact.The Battlezone where no one has the power to kill him? haermm
As has already been pointed out, Yoda's worst is within a second of Dumbles' best. haermm [/B]
Link relied on his skill in combat the sword wasn't some all badass weapon by any means. Just wait until you see what I do I Link here. You won't see any of this shit coming either.
Yoda's worst is worse than Dumbledore's worst. Dumbs was never ko'd either. Dumbs was never disarmed when he didn't allow it either. Dumbs stomps.
Originally posted by PwnedPalpatine did go back but the push rocked Yoda off the pod and affected them both. This shows he can't just easily repel greater force even from someone as weak as Palpatine. Dumbledore's power is vastly greater than I can't kill Luke Skywalker despite zapping him for a considerable amount of time.
Again, I would like to point out that before Yoda was thrown back by an explosion (which also affected Palpatine, and occurred during the Skywalker-Kenobi fight) he had actually pushed Palpatine back. Meaning he was overpowering him.
HP>>Star Wars.
Originally posted by BloodRainSometimes he can react not all the time. You keep wanting to ignore the time he was ko'd. You're biased and all those who want to ignore showings are biased.
Right now you're deviating from the topic; Yoda [b]can react to Force Lightning no matter who shoots it, this fact remains. The problem of if he can continue to do when its at a certain high level of power isn't the issue.
Though if you must;
1. Yoda showed no problem blocking it. Blocks, pushes in, shows confidence while Palpy shows fear.. it erupts and throws them back. No problems.
2. Show Albus' powercomparison to Palpy's, to prove which attack if more powerful. Difficult to show this because A. Albus doesn't show much power in his attacks and B. Force Lightning doesn't shown collateral damage.Who cares about their skill? Skill doesnt change the speed and rapid shots of the blasters.
Yoda losing his Lightsaber from that hit was likely, again, due to the instance, not because he's unable to. Proof being that Obi-Wan could do so with Dooko, Windu with Palpy. So it is able with Jedi of this level. [/B]
1.Yoda struggled and the power released knocked him off the pod. Did Yoda want to go flying off the pod ? Who was laughing after Yoda blocked the lightning ? Not Yoda.
2.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZTeHYpGq9E
Saying Albus doesn't show much power is ignorant beyond measure here.
This to me shows you didn't even watch these movies. It's like saying prove Superman can fly really fast.
Yes, it does. If you lack skill Yoda kills you generally easily but if you are skilled you can ko Yoda. Palpatine had skill. His reactions were slower than the blaster fire but that's irrelevant as one continuous stream of energy is disarming him. We see he can't block it with his saber. Palp disarms him.
You don't have one single example of Yoda blocking it with his saber. Of course when he was disarmed this doesn't count either. That's how fanboys debate. Highest feats only and ignore the rest. Ask for proof and then when it is posted ignore it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You're ignorance speaks volumes about yourself. He lights a room on fire to show a young Tom Riddle that he does indeed possess magic. You are altogether clueless about even my simplest points.
Originally posted by quanchi112Except you have not proven Dumble's power is greater. You have proven he can be utterly ineffectual even without his wand.
Palpatine did go back but the push rocked Yoda off the pod and affected them both. This shows he can't just easily repel greater force even from someone as weak as Palpatine. Dumbledore's power is vastly greater than I can't kill Luke Skywalker despite zapping him for a considerable amount of time.HP>>Star Wars.
And I find it funny you say, "weak" when they were both throwing several ton senate pods at each other.
Palp's was giving Luke a slow death. (He could actually vaporize dozens of stormtroopers with ease at the time, btw)
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilSo no wyou go from the only thing he lit was a candle to that doesn't count. Dumbledore didn't want to burn the place down. We have already seen wizards undo damage before also. You were wrong. Nothing else needs to be said. Yoda can't block a continuous stream of energy with his saber. No examples. Yoda also has been ko'd by a 3-4 second attack far slower than Dumbledore's best. Game. Set. Match. Dumbs can also use magic minus a wand. Another Game. Set. Match.
You mean that very tiny room that was barely a step up from potter's cupboard and didn't actually burn anything? Besides showing that tommy was a little thief, it didn't DO anything and is not applicable to combat.
Originally posted by Pwned
Except you have not proven Dumble's power is greater. You have proven he can be utterly ineffectual even without his wand.And I find it funny you say, "weak" when they were both throwing several ton senate pods at each other.
Palp's was giving Luke a slow death. (He could actually vaporize dozens of stormtroopers with ease at the time, btw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZTeHYpGq9E
Proven.
When was he defeated without his wand when he didn't want to be ?
Voldemort can easily tk a giant off a bridge without any effort whatsoever. When Yoda does so he strains along with it requiring all of his concentration.
Palps never killed anyone directly with force lightning. Not a single person. Luke walked away with no lingering effects. That's the dark lord of the sith. HP verse says gtfo.
You keep comparing Al's best to yoda's worst. You realize how flawed that is right. You take the average of each ones reaction time and yoda outclasses Albus by far.
The fire didn't burn anything, there was no repairs needed. Also comparing a tiny orphan room to what ever battle field they will be fighting in is silly.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilI can take the average and against opponents with a continuous beam of energy Yoda doesn't look impressive. Against unskilled grunts with laser weapons he looks good.
You keep comparing Al's best to yoda's worst. You realize how flawed that is right. You take the average of each ones reaction time and yoda outclasses Albus by far.The fire didn't burn anything, there was no repairs needed. Also comparing a tiny orphan room to what ever battle field they will be fighting in is silly.
He didn't want to burn anything. Do you think that was just an illusion ? I am just saying what Potter magic is capable of. Yoda can't disarm him anyways.
A ten year old was able to grab something inside the cupboard without even sweating. I wouldn't say illusion, but locater spell sounds good.
He was able to catch dooku's lightning and force palpy to a stand still. His reaction time is still pretty good at dodging senate pods and catching the pillar that almost crushed his friends. Not as good as his lightsaber reaction where he could move with well above human agility and speed.
Originally posted by quanchi112At the beginning of the game, when he hadn't tapped into his power yet? Herp derp.
So now Link can't be killed ? The guy was clubbed out early on by Bulbin you twit. Trust me it's going to go very badly for this pussyverse. Link was clubbed and ko'd rather easily. Awful. Yet you claim he's unkillable and unstoppable. Please play the game again your memory sucks.Link relied on his skill in combat the sword wasn't some all badass weapon by any means. Just wait until you see what I do I Link here. You won't see any of this shit coming either.
Yoda's worst is worse than Dumbledore's worst. Dumbs was never ko'd either. Dumbs was never disarmed when he didn't allow it either. Dumbs stomps.
And sure, Link could be killed, just not by anything in the HPverse. Nothing in it has enough physical power to harm him or magical power to overcome his protection.
Yoda's best is far and away superior, and easily discounts the speed of Potterspells which are subsonic.
Congrats, you just admitted that Yoda has better feats even though Dumbles has no low showings. dur
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sometimes he can react not all the time. You keep wanting to ignore the time he was ko'd. You're biased and all those who want to ignore showings are biased.
1.Yoda struggled and the power released knocked him off the pod. Did Yoda want to go flying off the pod ? Who was laughing after Yoda blocked the lightning ? Not Yoda.
2.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZTeHYpGq9E
Saying Albus doesn't show much power is ignorant beyond measure here.
This to me shows you didn't even watch these movies. It's like saying prove Superman can fly really fast.
YouTube video
3:37- Holding lighting
3:44- Yoda looks weakened
3:46- Palpy is giving it his all
...At this point you would be right, if not for the rest...
3:48- Yoda gets focused
3:50- Palpy reacts in fear/pain/struggling/whatever
3:53- Both get knocked back
4:08- Palpy laughs cause Yoda fell a great distance, while he had something to hold on to
1. There was no struggling beyond 3:48, and flying off the edge means nothing as Yoda was literally standing on the edge of the pod while Palpy was standing in the centre. Palpy gets knocked into it, Yoda couldn't as there was nothing behind him to collide with.
2. You just showed him casting a large fire spell with the EW when I asked for a feat of power and how that power differs from Force Lightnings. All that shows is he can create a large volume of fire, not how strong it is or how damaging it is.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it does. If you lack skill Yoda kills you generally easily but if you are skilled you can ko Yoda. Palpatine had skill. His reactions were slower than the blaster fire but that's irrelevant as one continuous stream of energy is disarming him. We see he can't block it with his saber. Palp disarms him.
You don't have one single example of Yoda blocking it with his saber. Of course when he was disarmed this doesn't count either. That's how fanboys debate. Highest feats only and ignore the rest. Ask for proof and then when it is posted ignore it.
Tell me how skill changes the speed and rapidity of blaster shots. E.g If you were able to catch a bullet from a handgun, it doesnt matter if the shooter is a sharpshooter or if its their first time touching a gun, the fact is you caught a bullet.
Yoda has a Lightsaber, Lightsabers are able to block Force Lightning. Its not a skill or ability, just what its capable of. Also why are you talking about deflecting with a lightsaber? I don't recall bringing it up.
And Quan, you're calling fanboy/biased to a guy that isnt much of a fan of these 3 verses :T
Originally posted by quanchi112No, you haven't. He has a wand in that scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZTeHYpGq9EProven.
When was he defeated without his wand when he didn't want to be ?
Voldemort can easily tk a giant off a bridge without any effort whatsoever. When Yoda does so he strains along with it requiring all of his concentration.
Palps never killed anyone directly with force lightning. Not a single person. Luke walked away with no lingering effects. That's the dark lord of the sith. HP verse says gtfo.
When was he actually engaged in combat with anybody that mattered?
So can Magneto. Guess what? Magneto doesn't need a stick. Voldy does.
It was a side note, not claiming it as a feat. He did it in a comic book. (Though he actually has some of the most powerful Force lightning around.)
Oh, and you seem to like to ignore CIS when you want to. Palpatine was giving Luke a slow death. Death by torture. If he wanted to, he could kill Luke much easier than the 3 Jedi Masters in RotS.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilThe pod tosses took at least a second and beyond. Yoda was struggling and wasn't doing effortlessly either. His reaction time is good but Dumbledore is too powerful and too accurate for him to defend against. Yoda can't compete with one of HP's elite class.
A ten year old was able to grab something inside the cupboard without even sweating. I wouldn't say illusion, but locater spell sounds good.
He was able to catch dooku's lightning and force palpy to a stand still. His reaction time is still pretty good at dodging senate pods and catching the pillar that almost crushed his friends. Not as good as his lightsaber reaction where he could move with well above human agility and speed.