Mangog Vs Onslaught

Originally posted by the Darkone
Pretty much, Odin destroys galaxies due to side affects of his battles, at best Onslaught is high trans as where SA Mangog was a legit sky father in power, Odin would vouch for that.

Otherwise I can say that WW, Jonn, BA, etc. can compare to many Earth weights of force since they can contend with someone who can has exerted more than 50 Earth weights of force. I can also say that the weakest character Glads punched can contend with planet destroying blows since Glads once destroyed a planet with his blows.

This is a con game you are using. You must look at the specific things Mangog has done. IMO, he's done absolutely nothing but show great durability. No power output at all.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Theoretically, based on the guys whom Onslaught was using as power-sources, he should be able to solo. But based on tangible feats, he didn't demonstrate anywhere near the power that would be required to overwhelm someone like SA Mangog.

So this is a pretty fair analysis:
1. Mangog easily
2. Onslaught(with some difficulty).

Mangog never demonstrated any level of offensive power beyond herald yet you are creating a double standard.

SA Mangog is overrated. He has great durability but sucky offensive power. Even Thor's own words claimed that Mangog was lying and exaggerating when he said he has the power of a billion billion beings.

Originally posted by h1a8
Mangog never demonstrated any level of offensive power beyond herald yet you are creating a double standard.

SA Mangog is overrated. He has great durability but sucky offensive power. Even Thor's own words claimed that Mangog was lying and exaggerating when he said he has the power of a billion billion beings.

👆

Onslaught wins...

Originally posted by h1a8
lol did you even read the story? Mangog lifted the bridge before they could attack. They were koed by falling a few feet from the air. A few feet!!! Come on be serious. Mangog didn't even hit them. They acted as fodder. Odin didn't even attack or use his powers on Mangog. Nothing Mangog did showed he is beyond a peak Onslaught. Hell a billion billion beings was his limit and in canon Thor thought he was exaggerating. Meaning Thor felt his power was much less than a billion billion beings. Mangog hit the hammer back only as strong as Thor's right arm, fail to ko Thor, etc.
Now if Odin used his powers or was on his A game (galaxy blasts) then you would have a point.

Regardless of how you view the events on-panel, they happened in ink. Whatever Mangog did, it was enough to finish the attacking army and take Odin down many notches. Unless you want to go back in time again and petition Marvel Comics to force the fictional comic book character, Odin, to be brought to justice and stand trial for throwing the fight.

I think this is a good strategy for you and you will do well with it. 🙄

This is how it went down:

Then the story cuts away to Thor and Sif, then it comes back to Odin giving up before Mangog can get to him. This isn't an advertisement for dish detergent. It is part of the story for a reason. To reinforce the fear of Odin.

Originally posted by Horrificus
You are a funny, funny little person. You amuse me.
But, for now... BE SILENT, FOOLISH ONE!

Regardless of how you view the events on-panel, they happened in ink. Whatever Mangog did, it was enough to finish the attacking army and take Odin down many notches. Unless you want to go back in time again and petition Marvel Comics to force the fictional comic book character, Odin, to be brought to justice and stand trial for throwing the fight.

I think this is a good strategy for you and you will do well with it. 🙄

This is how it went down:

Then the story cuts away to Thor and Sif, then it comes back to Odin giving up before Mangog can get to him. This isn't an advertisement for dish detergent. It is part of the story for a reason. To reinforce the fear of Odin.

We go by feats and what a character has done. Implied power is valid only if it doesn't contradict on all the panel feats and showings. I can say Sentry has the power of a million exploding suns but if everything he's done contradicts that then I must not accept implied power.

On panel we have Thor even admitting that Mangog is not as powerful as he was claiming (a billion billion beings) and he thinks he was exaggerating. Why would Thor say this? We have on panel evidence of Mangog hitting Mjolnir back at the force of Thor's own right arm. This is not a level well beyond Thor my friend. If Mangog had any great power output feats then I will dismiss any low ones as PIS. But I'm afraid he has NONE! Thus why still put him on a pedestal? Because Odin was acting silly at that time for no REAL reason? So if Odin was scared of Savage Hulk would that make Savage Hulk a skyfather?

Bottomline, I really have a hard time seeing Mangog affect Onslaught offensively when he can't even ko or kill Thor with multiple blows. No attack he did was shown to do above herald level power output. Hell Superman could have lifted that bridge and made those fodder Asgardians fall on their ass and get koed. Odin wasn't even shown to be hurt, he looked silly if anything.

If Mangog on average hit's Thor multiple times without koing or killing him then wtf you think he's going to do to Onslaught. Come on man!

Originally posted by Horrificus
You are a funny, funny little person. You amuse me.
But, for now... BE SILENT, FOOLISH ONE!

Regardless of how you view the events on-panel, they happened in ink. Whatever Mangog did, it was enough to finish the attacking army and take Odin down many notches. Unless you want to go back in time again and petition Marvel Comics to force the fictional comic book character, Odin, to be brought to justice and stand trial for throwing the fight.

I think this is a good strategy for you and you will do well with it. 🙄

This is how it went down:

Then the story cuts away to Thor and Sif, then it comes back to Odin giving up before Mangog can get to him. This isn't an advertisement for dish detergent. It is part of the story for a reason. To reinforce the fear of Odin.

I agree, anybody else with comic book sense and knowledge who doesn't low ball. SA Mangog Sky Father level of power was in his brute strength and power and his great durability. Odin especially Silver Age Odin was powerful as hell in his hay day, his dark self siphon powers from the cosmic being Infinity and undid the damage with a gesture, and causing shock waves battling Forsung that destroyed planets, suns going supernova etc.. but yet losing to one of the most powerful bricks of All time in Mangog, who even Odin stated he couldn't defeat and was scared of him to the point, Odin had to remove Asgard itself from its own dimension.

Onslaught spit shine SA Mangog shoes!!

Originally posted by the Darkone
I agree, anybody else with comic book sense and knowledge who doesn't low ball. SA Mangog Sky Father level of power was in his brute strength and power and his great durability. Odin especially Silver Age Odin was powerful as hell in his hay day, his dark self siphon powers from the cosmic being Infinity and undid the damage with a gesture, and causing shock waves battling Forsung that destroyed planets, suns going supernova etc.. but yet losing to one of the most powerful bricks of All time in Mangog, who even Odin stated he couldn't defeat and was scared of him to the point, Odin had to remove Asgard itself from its own dimension.

Onslaught spit shine SA Mangog shoes!!

lol what a bunch of crock. You would be lucky if Mangog possesses high herald level power output.
1. Mangog did nothing to even a normal Odin, not one ounce of damage
2. Odin never landed an attack on Mangog at full power
3. You can't use a character's high showings as a basis to prove another's character's level. Characters indeed have low showings. Otherwise everytime Gladiator hits someone in a comic, it's really with planet busting power.

Con games. I'm not falling for it.
Mangog has trans level durability with mid/high herald power output. Nothing more.

Originally posted by Horrificus
You are a funny, funny little person. You amuse me.
But, for now... BE SILENT, FOOLISH ONE!

Regardless of how you view the events on-panel, they happened in ink. Whatever Mangog did, it was enough to finish the attacking army and take Odin down many notches. Unless you want to go back in time again and petition Marvel Comics to force the fictional comic book character, Odin, to be brought to justice and stand trial for throwing the fight.

I think this is a good strategy for you and you will do well with it. 🙄

This is how it went down:

Then the story cuts away to Thor and Sif, then it comes back to Odin giving up before Mangog can get to him. This isn't an advertisement for dish detergent. It is part of the story for a reason. To reinforce the fear of Odin.

You might as well post the whole Comic, SA Mangog needs to comeback, hope Jason Aaron is working on that as we speak. SA Mangog=/> SA Odin>>> Onslaught

1 battle SA Mangog 10/10
2 battle 50/50 leaning towards Mangog but it's close

Originally posted by the Darkone

2 battle 50/50 leaning towards Mangog but it's close [/B]

Current Mangog you give a split? Did you forget that in Dan Jurgen's run Thor had him down, helpless, and broke his horn. Even before Thor used his Anti force blast.

Also in there next fight Thor knocked him out for a while.

Onlsaught might be able to KO him for a much longer period of time or after knocking him out 7 times he'll probably just put him in a sun. I don't really see the current Mangog as a real threat to Onslaught IMO.

Seems just to powerful and to versatile for Mangog. Because even if current Mangog destroys his shell he still has to deal with the pure energy or Onslaught controlling him.

Even if you discount the scene above because I don't think its Jurgens, you still have the other one were Thor had him hurt and down with his horn busted up.

Silver Age Mangog now that would be a incredible fight as Thor strength couldn't even seem to phase him nor anyone.

Originally posted by the Darkone
You might as well post the whole Comic, SA Mangog needs to comeback, hope Jason Aaron is working on that as we speak. SA Mangog=/> SA Odin>>> Onslaught

1 battle SA Mangog 10/10
2 battle 50/50 leaning towards Mangog but it's close

You can't use the con game where you compare a character's highest feat to determine the level of another. This is worst than lowballing. Also Mangog is not greater than Odin. Mangog never damaged Odin, Odin never attacked Mangog directly. Going by feats Mangog is shitty offensively. Do you honestly believe Mangog could hurt Onslaught after he couldn't damage Odin or ko Thor?

Thor endured Mangog very well.

Mangog can't beat Onslaught.

Jurgens Mangog had Thor down twice before the anti-force incident...

And that was a fairly strong Thor also.

Originally posted by curryman
Jurgens Mangog had Thor down twice before the anti-force incident...

And that was a fairly strong Thor also.

True he did. But that does not take away what that Thor did to him before he used the anti force.

^ Get his a$$ completely kicked?

Originally posted by ODG
^ Get his a$$ completely kicked?

Yup. I guess the third time was the charm.

Also, how hard does Mangog have to beat him to win? Since you couldn't really beat Onslaught by destroying his body...

Originally posted by curryman
Also, how hard does Mangog have to beat him to win? Since you couldn't really beat Onslaught by destroying his body...

Mangog doesn't even have the physical power to damage Onslaught. He couldn't even ko or kill Thor.

Originally posted by h1a8
He couldn't even ko or kill Thor.

Thor looked knocked out h1. Big time.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Thor looked knocked out h1. Big time.

SA Mangog never gave him a consistent beating they way current Mangog did. He was mostly distracted by either other asgardians attacking him or his stupidity for causeing more damage to the area then towards Thor.

SA Mangog even damaged Thor's arm pretty easily. I see no reason to believe given the same circumstances that SA mangog could KO Thor as well.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
SA Mangog never gave him a consistent beating they way current Mangog did. He was mostly distracted by either other asgardians attacking him or his stupidity for causeing more damage to the area then towards Thor.

SA Mangog even damaged Thor's arm pretty easily. I see no reason to believe given the same circumstances that SA mangog could KO Thor as well.