Originally posted by h1a8
Real Experiment
Set up a grain of salt on a glass surface (coefficient of static friction is less than 1) from 100 meters away from striking a steel skillet pan with a hammer holding near the top with punch like motion. Place the salt 1cm from edge (measured with the accuracy of + or -.1mm). I provided an impact force to the steel and see if the collateral force exceeds that of the frictional force on the salt grain.
If the salt grain doesn't move then the collateral force is less than the frictional force.mass of grain of salt = .3mg =3 x 10^(-7) kg
velocity of punch* = 50mi/hr =22.35m/s
mass of hammer/hand system = .6kg
impact distance of steel pan* < 1cm =.01m
Work= Impact Force x Impact Distance = 1/2 mass x velocity^2
So dividing by Impact Distance we get
Impact Force = 1/2 mass x velocity^2 / impact distance
>1/2(.6kg)(22.35m/s)^2/.01m
=14,236N
Force required to move grain of salt (overcome static friction)
= mass of salt x g x coefficient of static friction.
< 3x10^(-7)kg x 9.8m/s^2 x 1
=2.94 x 10^(-6)N
The ratio of forces is 14236/2.94 x 10^-6 =4.84 x 10^9 (hence billions)
Since the grain of salt didn't move then friction force exceeded collateral force. So since impact force is more than billions of times more than friction force then so it is also more than billions times more than collateral force.
Notes: The velocity of punch is more than 50mph. I have casually been clocked at 60mph throwing punches and I swung with all my might here. I can also throw a baseball at 85mph or more. Impact distance of steel was very small, much less than 1cm. These things make the Impact force even larger than what is calculated.
Masterful. Truly, Masterful.
Except...
Every time you try to prove one of your arguments with equations, you are wasting your time, because everything you are doing is based on the assumption that the physics governing these alternate comic book universes, would be the exact same as our own.
This is quite a stretch!
But, I am here for you. So, I think you could still deliver a pretty good argument provided you first travel to one of these universes, (Marvel, DC, etc.), run some tests, collect some samples, then sash e on back here to let us know how it goes.
Actually, I think this could work for you and I think you should get started right away.
We all EAGERLY await your return! 🙄
By the way: When I say that YOU are a funny guy, I mean it. 😐