The Dwarves (The Hobbit) vs The Fellowship of the Ring (LOTR)

During their respective visits to Rivendal a time paradox happens that cause both groups to get magically transported to Goblintown. The town is completely devoid of life now. The characters have a spell that has been put on their eyes that make them see the other group as Goblins and Orcs and they can not understand each other.

Obviously they don't hesitate and begin to fight. Gandolf being magical himself was able to resist the effect and is not in the fight but he and everyone else is powerless to oppose the time paradox effect.

Team Dwarves:
Thorin
Bifur
Bombur
Gloin
Dori
Balin
Oin
Nori
Bofur
Dwalin
Fili
Kili
Ori
Bilbo Baggins

Team Fellowship:
Aragorn
Legolas
Gimli
Boromir
Frodo
Sam
Merry
Pippin

If this seems unfair we'll say Faramir was there and no one noticed and got sucked in to. If it's still not fair we shall add the fat elf that gets killed in the two towers(I can't remember his name), Theoden, Eowyn, Eomer, Arwen(Not allowed to use Magic).

Heh...I was thinking about making this thread soon too.

I think the Fellowship would own this though. The Dwarves ran from an Orc patrol.
The Fellowship would've just faced them. Aragorn took on a whole small army of em alone!

Maybe it's just plot development and the Dwarves will become my hardcore in the later films as they gain more confidence in their abiltities. But Aragorn, Legolas and Boromir will kickass.

Clever OP using the spell though 🙂

Originally posted by the ninjak
Heh...I was thinkong about making this thread soon too.

I think the Fellowship would own this though. The Dwarves ran from an Orc patrol.
The Fellowship would've just faced them. Aragorn took on a whole small army of em alone!

Maybe it's just plot development and the Dwarves will become my hardcore in the later films as they gain more confidence in their abiltities. But Aragorn, Legolas and Boromir will kickass....I question whether Gimli will just swap sides!

The Orc Patrol had a large number of Worgs in it that the Dwarves faces down and they did kill quite a few of them, and the only time the Fellowship ran across a Worg Scouting party was on the way to Helm's deep and they had a lot of help around them, including people on horses.

Edit: I just saw your edit yup I thought the spell would help with switching sides.

Thing is the Dwarves have mad skills. The way they bounced those plates around Bilbo's house shows they are masters in processing skills.

The attack on the Goblins was truth in that. It was almost a comedy sketch in how they escaped their hordes. They may be short be they work together tactically almost like they have a hive mind.

This will work in their favor compared to the Fellowship...who were never truly a working unit, but just just a bunch of professionals doing what they did.

Legolas vs Kili isn't much of of stretch. The Dwarves may have the insane skills but a high-end Elf like Legolas will always be a better archer.
Kili was deflecting arrows with his sword for a whiles.......

I wonder if Legolas will be useless in this fight?

I agree the Dwarven teamwork was crazy and so seamless. It's one of the reasons why I thought this could be an extremely unfair match cause how well they did with it.

I would also use the Trolls as a good example. The dwarves seemed to be man handling the 3 Trolls to the point the Trolls got desperate enough to hold Bilbo hostage.

Legolas vs Kili is interesting. He did look very good with his archery skills obviously Legolas is better but Kili was no slouch. Plus there was the dwarf with the slingshot that was pretty accurate as well as the fact the one dwarf managed to kill a worg with a throwing axe easily.

Plus I remember that one dwarf catching a fork thrown at him by Kili when his back was turned with ease.

I'm starting to think this may be a stomp in favor of the Dwarves.

The slingshot attack by Ori was insane in regards to accuracy. An arrow is one thing but a sling...damn!
If it hit an elf or human than it would've knocked em to the ground. The Worgs had hard heads and the Dwarves (in regards to the head-butt scene) show the fact that their heads are very tough.

With the Dwarve's ability to stand formation so quickly plus the fact that they bounce kitchen plates with ease leaves me to believe that Legolas' arrows will be next to useless and the rest of the team will be forced to enter their sphere of influence at a massive disadvantage.

Team Fellowship for the win. Those guys had Hercules TV show style fighting skills.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Team Fellowship for the win. Those guys had Hercules TV show style fighting skills. [/B]

I doubt they had his strength and ability to catch daggers/swords in his hands.
They were both New Zealand production shows, but I would never give the Fellowship Herculean feats.

Hercules was on another level. And yet on on a entirely lower realistic level.

Fellowship wins. Aragorn and Legolas might be the only ones that survive though.

Do both Frodo and Bilbo have a "One Ring"?

Because either of them could use it to devastating effect.

Dwarves win easily. There are far more of them and all are incredibly skilled.

Originally posted by KingD19
Do both Frodo and Bilbo have a "One Ring"?

Because either of them could use it to devastating effect.

I saw the Dwarves take it. At least half the Fellowship is essentially worthless, with Boromir being the least skilled of the four who are actually worth anything.

And the Dwarves can actually triple team all of the important fighters from the Fellowship. Those guys are good, but against odds like this they fold.

The Dwarves are too many. With just the original Fellowship, all of the hobbits probably die (with Bilbo included). That will leave the fellowship with 4 vs. 13. Still, I'd say that Aragorn, Boromir and Legolas can take on 2 dwarves at the same time, maybe even 3 at the same time. Not many of the dwarves showed that great fighting skills. Only Thorin and a few of the others, but the rest were more of a comedy relief relying more on a lot of luck than skill (just like Gimli).

Still, it'd be a close fight. I'd still put my money of the Fellowship though. I just can't see these dwarves laying a hand on Aragorn and especially not on Legolas.

The Dwarves team work may not mean that much here as they didn't display that great teamwork against multiple opponents. Only against the trolls who were big, stupid, and slow. Besides, Aragorn, GImli and Legolas are pretty used to fighting together.

Out of the 13, the best fighters seem to be Thorin, Balin, Dwalin, Fili, Kili, and Oin (I think).

Aragorn is arguably the best mortal warrior in the Third Age. He drove off 5 Nazgul, including the Witch King. Boromir is on par with Aragorn. How many Uruk-Hai (the strongest breed of Orc) did Boromir slay at Amon Hen. Gimli seems just as good as the other Dwarves mentioned above, except for Thorin. And Legolas is just a beast.

The Dwarves are very in sync, but I think Legolas could take out Kili and kill several of them from the beginning. Aragorn could probably duel Thorin and one more Dwarf, and Boromir could take on 2 or 3 at once. Gimli could engage in at least one as well.

It's hard imagining the Dwarves losing this due to their sheer numbers and their in-sync ability. At the same time, it's hard imagining a team of Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli/Boromir ever getting overwhelmed.

I say Fellowship for now, but this could go either way.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I doubt they had his strength and ability to catch daggers/swords in his hands.
They were both New Zealand production shows, but I would never give the Fellowship Herculean feats.

Hercules was on another level. And yet on on a entirely lower realistic level.

I agree, the Fellowship is just too much right now. Legolas would be snap firing arrows so quickly they couldn't block them. Don't forget he has good melee skills as well.

I would also like to point out how (apart from Boromir) the Three Hunters were never wounded. Ever. Not through Helms Deep, not through Minas Tirith, not through the Black Gate, never. That is FAR more than the Company have been through.

Originally posted by Pwned
I agree, the Fellowship is just too much right now. Legolas would be snap firing arrows so quickly they couldn't block them. Don't forget he has good melee skills as well.

I would also like to point out how (apart from Boromir) the Three Hunters were never wounded. Ever. Not through Helms Deep, not through Minas Tirith, not through the Black Gate, never. That is FAR more than the Company have been through.

You don't think a group of warriors who could bounce plates around a living room couldn't deflect arrows with ease?

Kili did it multiple times.

Comparing Legolas to an ork bowman, even 10 ork bowmen is a massive undersell of the elf. His speed and skill with a bow is beyond anything the dwarves faced in An Unexpected Journey. He's also a killing machine with his twin long knives.

Just look at the scene where he solos a war mumakil and crew.

People are severally underestimating the dwarves here.

A duel between Aragorn and Thorin would be one for the ages.