Originally posted by Nephthys
This is hilarious coming from you and your history of pathetic arguments. Look at this picture, Revan killed two people in a single slash! HE MUST BE A LIGHTSABER PRODIGY! REVANS LIGHTNING CANNOT BE BLOCKED! FVCK YOU LOGIC! Revan has the speed to deal with Bane! BECAUSE HE DOES ALRIGHT! I DON'T NEED ANY DAMN PROOF! Revan had 'experienced both the light and dark sides of the Force' THEREFORE BANE IS HOPELESSLY OUTGUNNED IN A LIGHTSABER FIGHT! Seriously, the only thing of worth in your posts are in how utterly hilarious your arguments are.
A lightsaber fight?
I have stated this before:
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Summary:Sabers: Inconclusive
Force: Revan
All out: Revan 80/20 (Bane's chances are only with the saber)This is as generous as I can get after being fully neutral about this duel.
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Originally posted by Nephthys
As I said, Bane destroying an entire temple is leagues ahead of whatever Revan has done with TK.
"And, if the situation was right he might be able to collapse a building; it would really depend on his state of mind and the circumstances."
As I have pointed out before in another discussion, we have yet to see the best from Revan in the context of his telekinetic abilities.
Revan's feats in the book represent his self-control rather then destructive potential.
Darth Bane, as a Sith Lord, put his destructive potential to good use. This was in his nature. However, Jedi typically don't fight in this manner:
No matter how dire circumstances may become, the Jedi Knight trusts the Force and keeps a cool head. Knowledge and self-control are the critical components of wise decisions, and emotional and mental clarity are an absolute necessity. Maintaining focus allows the Knight to rely on intuition; a right mind leads to right action. (SWTOR: Jedi Knight Profile)
Originally posted by Nephthys
Even if Revan could block Banes attacks, since he is so much weaker in TK than Bane it would exhaust him to do so. It is only logical that when one is stronger than his opponent, he can overpower him, regardless of resistence.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Except when he killed him. 😬
Originally posted by Nephthys
Again, Kas'im blocking Banes attacks only prove that Kas'im was strong, not that Bane was weak.
However, for Revan;
"He was an incredibly powerful Jedi." (Drew Karpyshyn)
Bane's attack wasn't potent enough to destroy a powerful Force-wielder. Revan is actually a tier above in this aspect since he effortlessely handled an attack with his raw power which was actually potent enough to destroy a powerful Force-wielder.
Originally posted by Nephthys
A word of caution: Start thinking.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Considering that you completely miss the point of why I mentioned Raskta in your following paragraphs, this is hilarious. Never change Legend.Your arguments for the evidence you have is terrible btw.
You missed my point, brains.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No they do not you twit. Merely because Revan wasn't going all out does not excuse his weak showings. Unless there is evidence of strong TK, is it impossible to assume it.
If people were expecting Revan to collapse buildings to prove his strength; well, he isn't a Sith Lord but rather very calculative about his actions. This is how he have been depicted in the book.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Also, nothing you've posted mentions what Revans intentions are. You are just assuming that you know them. As usual you fanwank defenses for your favourite characters when they fail to measure up.
Revan never failed to meaure up; it is just that some people want to judge characters only on the basis of their flashy feats and not on the basis of their other relevant details.
I know that this may sound strange to you but I will quote The_Tempest here:
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I already acknowledged the extraordinary difficulty in trying to navigate that, but let's be honest: it's not like that sort of thing hasn't been going on for ages now.Starkiller and The Force Unleashed is a prime example of that. We see Vader labor around like a geriatric against geriatrics in the original trilogy, but here he's collapsing buildings, throwing big ass platforms like frisbees, and generally being a badass to an exponentially greater degree. Starkiller drags capital ships out of orbit, flexes his arms and disintegrates them entirely, and so on.
Feat-to-feat, he'd waste Bane... but no one likes to say that.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars mortally injured the notion that "lol Obi-Wan is teh 4th best Jedi in the PT!" by seeding the series with rivals who, despite their paltry exposure, compete with him on some level. [/B]
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Keeping in mind, Bane's strength in the Force; I don't think that Marek is going to waste him in a contest of Force powers regardless of the flashy feats of the latter. This kind of thinking is not sound IMO.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Did I say that they did? All I've said is that Bane has disintegrated over a dozen metal opponents with a mere thrust of his hand. This is a telekinestic feat beyond anything Revan has performed a dozen times over. When Revans best feat is opening a door that 2 people can open though, that isn't too hard.
Does this footage teaches you something?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Whats beyond my grasp is how you can delude yourself into thinking that you are anything but a punchline to me. Maybe if you put EXPERT in big capital letters a few more time I'll be convinced.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Who cares? He can't win with his mediocre saber feats and lack of offensive Force powers. Bane wins 9/10 with the 1 time Revan wins being when he reflects Banes own lightning at him and Bane can't block it in time for some reason.OP says its peak Revan though.
Lack of offensive force powers? The power to put one of the most powerful Sith lords in history on his ass is not a lack of offensive powers. His saber feats do suck though.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDWatch this video:
Does this footage teaches you something?
I'm curious as to why you're showing a video of Marek to aid in an argument for the power of Revan. I read the rest of your post and it really doesn't fit at all.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
I'm curious as to why you're showing a video of Marek to aid in an argument for the power of Revan.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
I read the rest of your post and it really doesn't fit at all.
Different characters have been explored in different mediums in different manner. It is not like we have a "check list" of capabilities of each and every individual in Star Wars to take cues from; we need to think logically sometimes.
Revan possesses great understanding of all aspects of the Force; he didn't followed the path of specialists but rather learned whatever he could.
If we consider specialists; Lord Scourge; Anakin; Obi-Wan are some examples. These guys specially focused on developing their martial skills with a lightsaber and became warriors.
If we consider generalists; Yoda; Revan; Luke; Sidious are some examples. These guys focused on developing their skills in all aspects of the Force. This path requires lot of talent and study; few can manage this.
It was rather unfortunate, however, that when we saw Revan actually fleshed out he fell rather short of being all he was hyped to be. His knowledge may have been great, but it didn't translate very well in the end. Jacen had much arcane knowledge, yet fell well short of being a top Jedi or Sith because of his own inadequacies.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
It was rather unfortunate, however, that when we saw Revan actually fleshed out he fell rather short of being all he was hyped to be. His knowledge may have been great, but it didn't translate very well in the end.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
Jacen had much arcane knowledge, yet fell well short of being a top Jedi or Sith because of his own inadequacies.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDJacen gave Luke one hell of a fight though.
Indeed, but a major part of surviving as long as he did was one, having Ben in the mix, and two, having all those Vong plants and devices at hand to cause Luke distractions. The omniscient narrator reveals throughout the book series that Jacen/Caedus knows he is not a match for Luke. He keeps training and waiting on the day that he will be able to best his uncle, but it never arrives.