Starkiller Runs a Gauntlet

Originally posted by Rookwood
Specifically so I could get a response from you, and we could flirt with each other. 🙄

Anakin wouldn't be able to take the sheer power behind Marek's swings, and Marek could simply just blow him apart with some Force attacks.

Sidious wasn't "far" superior to him - hell, he wasn't even truly "superior" to him, at all.

In ranged-attacks, maybe. But overall? No, not at all.

My comparison was suggesting that Sidious is considerably beyond Mace in Force attacks but Mace not exactly being a slouch in the Force but having the edge over Sidious in Sabers was able to defeat him.

Whilst the difference in Force Powers will be much larger between Galen and Anakin(Favoring Marek of course) I also think the difference in Saber prowess between the 2 will be greater (favoring Skywalker).

And let's not forget Anakin's very inconsistent in his use of the Force. He has dominated both The Son and Daughter once, a feat that was beyond any Jedi or Sith.

But something he's shown to do much more consistently is tank Force attacks. He's been able to tank all Count Dooku's attacks and still carry on fighting without being noticeably injured.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
My comparison was suggesting that Sidious is considerably beyond Mace in Force attacks but Mace not exactly being a slouch in the Force but having the edge over Sidious in Sabers was able to defeat him.

Powerful Sith having an edge in Force attacks over powerful Jedi, is not uncommon.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Whilst the difference in Force Powers will be much larger between Galen and Anakin(Favoring Marek of course) I also think the difference in Saber prowess between the 2 will be greater (favoring Skywalker).

I don't think Anakin will get to engage Galen in saber-combat, before Marek simply blows him up.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

And let's not forget Anakin's very inconsistent in his use of the Force. He has dominated both The Son and Daughter once, a feat that was beyond any Jedi or Sith.

Is this from that The Clone Wars crap?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

But something he's shown to do much more consistently is tank Force attacks. He's been able to tank all Count Dooku's attacks and still carry on fighting without being noticeably injured.

Anakin can tank Dooku's TK and shrug it off and keep going - but there is a big difference, between tanking Dooku's TK, and attempting to tank Marek's TK - which will rip him to pieces.

Originally posted by Rookwood
Powerful Sith having an edge in Force attacks over powerful Jedi, is not uncommon.

I'd say it's more than just an edge.

Even with his Lightsaber Mace really struggles to catch and deflect Sidious's Lightning. So I don't see what chance he would have without his Lightsaber.

Also according to the novel and the script Sidious almost wins the fight via a powerful force push.

Originally posted by Rookwood
I don't think Anakin will get to engage Galen in saber-combat, before Marek simply blows him up.

Strange theory considering pretty much everyone Galen fought managed to engage him in Lightsaber combat.

Also which Jedi did Galen "simply blow up?"

Originally posted by Rookwood
Is this from that The Clone Wars crap?

Yes it's from that crap created and executive produced by George Lucas. That crap that's higher in canonicity than the rest of the eu.

But seriously if you really want to discuss Star Wars canon then you need to watch that show. Or at least be familiar with the main events occuring in it.

The Son and Daughter have already been mentioned in eu novels. Because everything created by Lucas is the source material for the rest of the eu.

Originally posted by Rookwood
Anakin can tank Dooku's TK and shrug it off and keep going - but there is a [B]big difference, between tanking Dooku's TK, and attempting to tank Marek's TK - which will rip him to pieces. [/B]

True there is a big difference between Marek's and Dooku's force powers. But my point is there's no basis to say Anakin would get blown up or ripped apart when he's tanked all the Force attacks of the most powerful Jedi/Sith he's faced.

But like I said I would give Galen the majority. But there's definitely room for Anakin to take some wins Imho. Even if it's just 2/3 out of 10.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I'd say it's more than just an edge.

Even with his Lightsaber Mace really struggles to catch and deflect Sidious's Lightning. So I don't see what chance he would have without his Lightsaber.

Also according to the novel and the script Sidious almost wins the fight via a powerful force push.

I've read both, and I don't recall it saying that.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Strange theory considering pretty much everyone Galen fought managed to engage him in Lightsaber combat.

Also which Jedi did Galen "simply blow up?"

I heard Galen had the physical ability to crunch Durasteel up, etc.

I haven't played that shitty game, but I've seen bits and pieces where he uses the Force to rip things apart casually.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Yes it's from that crap created and executive produced by George Lucas. That crap that's higher in canonicity than the rest of the eu.

But seriously if you really want to discuss Star Wars canon then you need to watch that show. Or at least be familiar with the main events occuring in it.

The Son and Daughter have already been mentioned in eu novels. Because everything created by Lucas is the source material for the rest of the eu.

I did watch it - paid money to go see the Pilot in Theaters.

Then I watched season 1 - until the episode where Dooku was caught like a mouse by some pirates.

Then I realized it's essentially Retarded-garbage intended for children or those with an IQ of 10 or below.

I don't consider any of that crap to be Canon, and not surprisingly, a lot of other people don't, as well.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

True there is a big difference between Marek's and Dooku's force powers. But my point is there's no basis to say Anakin would get blown up or ripped apart when he's tanked all the Force attacks of the most powerful Jedi/Sith he's faced.

But like I said I would give Galen the majority. But there's definitely room for Anakin to take some wins Imho. Even if it's just 2/3 out of 10.

Tanking Dooku's attacks, wouldn't be like trying to tank Galen's.

Based on what I've seen of Galen's power; If Galen wanted to rip Anakin apart - then Anakin would be ripped apart.

Originally posted by Rookwood
I've read both, and I don't recall it saying that.

You should read more carefully.

From the script:

Jedi Master MACE WINDU and the Sith Lord fight their way down the hallway and into the main office area. PALPATINE is able to use the Force to slam MACE against the wall, but he recovers before the Chancellor can cut him down.

Not got the novel on me but it's towards the end of the fight. I'm sure you don't need me to underline that one for you as well 😉

Originally posted by Rookwood
Tanking Dooku's attacks, wouldn't be like trying to tank Galen's.

Based on what I've seen of Galen's power; If Galen wanted to rip Anakin apart - then Anakin would be ripped apart.

It's up to you to prove this. The facts are these:

1. Galen never ripped apart a Jedi or a Sith with the force.
2. Anakin has shrugged off the Force attacks from the most powerful Jedi/Sith he's faced.

So again, what are you basing this idea that Galen would just rip Anakin apart on?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You should read more carefully.

From the script:

Jedi Master MACE WINDU and the Sith Lord fight their way down the hallway and into the main office area. PALPATINE is able to use the Force to slam MACE against the wall, but he recovers before the Chancellor can cut him down.

You should read more carefully. 😉

I meant I didn't recall him being nearly killed by a Force push.

I knew Sidious used one, but you implied initially that the push itself almost killed him.

So in retrospect, you should read and write, more carefully. 😆

(Because I wouldn't put it past your stupidity, to actually imply that a Force push from Sidious would kill Mace in RotS)

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Not got the novel on me but it's towards the end of the fight. I'm sure you don't need me to underline that one for you as well 😉

You mean it says in the novel that Sidious nearly killed Mace with a Force push, as well?

Sure, show me where it says that. 😆

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

It's up to you to prove this. The facts are these:

1. Galen never ripped apart a Jedi or a Sith with the force.
2. Anakin has shrugged off the Force attacks from the most powerful Jedi/Sith he's faced.

So again, what are you basing this idea that Galen would just rip Anakin apart on?

I don't know, probably the part where he telekinetically guides down a falling war machine weighing millions of tons.

That's more force than any Sith or Jedi has ever attacked him with.

Hell, he wouldn't need to rip him apart - he could just crush him to death.

Galen was able to throw Sidious into the ground with his TK, so I'd like to see how Anakin would fare any better. 😎

I don't know, probably the part where he telekinetically guides down a falling war machine weighing millions of tons.

I knew Sidious used one, but you implied initially that the push itself almost killed him.

So in retrospect, you should read and write, more carefully. 😆

(Because I wouldn't put it past your stupidity, to actually imply that a Force push from Sidious would kill Mace in RotS)

Originally posted by Rookwood
You should read more carefully. 😉

I meant I didn't recall him being nearly killed by a Force push.

I knew Sidious used one, but you implied initially that the push itself almost killed him.

So in retrospect, you should read and write, more carefully. 😆

(Because I wouldn't put it past your stupidity, to actually imply that a Force push from Sidious would kill Mace in RotS)

I said the Force Push Almost cost him the fight which is implied by this part:

but he recovers before the Chancellor can cut him down.

I didn't say the Force Push itself almost killed him or anything even close to that.

Being slammed against a wall is never a good thing especially in a scenario where both combatants are fighting equally well in the Saber portion of the fight (according to the novel).

Originally posted by Rookwood
You mean it says in the novel that Sidious nearly killed Mace with a Force push, as well?

Sure, show me where it says that. 😆

The novel also implies Sidious's Force push almost cost Mace the fight, and it's clearly implied his Force push is considerably beyond Mace's own force push.

Besides which it almost costing him the fight was never an argument in and of itself. Just that from that part of the novel and script it's clear Sidious's Force TK is beyond Mace's. And that the difference is more than just a little.

Originally posted by Rookwood
I don't know, probably the part where he telekinetically guides down a falling war machine weighing millions of tons.

That's more force than any Sith or Jedi has ever attacked him with.

Hell, he wouldn't need to rip him apart - he could just crush him to death.

Arhael has responded to this perfectly.

Originally posted by Rookwood
Galen was able to throw Sidious into the ground with his TK, so I'd like to see how Anakin would fare any better. 😎

Your making it sound like I said Galen's force attacks won't effect Anakin, or that I said Anakin would win a majority.

That's not my stance at all.

Originally posted by Arhael
As always low grade insults and zero usefulness in your posts. 👆

Too much of this lately on these boards. People get frustrated when you make a valid point against their stance and then just resort to pettiness to try and get around it.

^ Amen.