Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol he put a piece of his soul into an animal. This person is smart?

Nope

Originally posted by Surtur
He left a piece of his soul with the Malfoys without telling them what the hell it truly was. Is this smart?

Nope

Originally posted by Surtur
Refused to use telepathy to read Harry's mind to find out if he was telling the truth about the whole "yeah you're f*cked and about to die" stuff.

To be fair, he got his ass kicked when he tried to mind**** Harry so he might want to avoid another embarrassment 😂

Originally posted by Surtur
Refused to tell a single god damn person about his horcruxes despite his being able to fully come back after dying would rely on at least ONE other person.

Dumb move

Originally posted by Surtur
Stupidly hides a piece of his soul in Hogwarts, because reasons. Stupidly comes up with an overly complicated plan in Goblet of Fire to get Harry alone to get his blood and kill him when he could have had Moody abduct Harry any time. Could have had Moody turn any random item into a portkey to send Harry away.

Hogwartz is the most secure location in that world; though admittedly it doesn't seem so; and that room was hard to find and even more difficult to specifically get his item. Yes he is dumb a ton of the time, that was probably a smart move on his part

And I believe portkeys cannot be used inside of Hogwartz which is why Malfoy had to build that cabinet. But I agree, fake Moody could have gotten Harry's blood a number of ways and I'm sure he could have lured Harry away from the school at some point to kidnap him

Originally posted by Surtur
The best part is I know you'll muster up some lame attempt to try to excuse every single thing I've said.

That's what he does

So you think it is easy to achieve what he did with time and planning ?? You also do not reference Albus and others taking nearly the same amount of time to plan against him while having the benefit of their bodies and open communication for years. Not everyone can inspire the fear in other wizards of the same abilities. You also forget he was the darkest wizard of all time. No one else went down his dark path or can pretend to be Voldemort you clod.

Now you do not want to give him credit when we clearly see he runs this ship. It ultimately comes down to his decisions yet you claim hey maybe it's someone else. That's ridiculous and minus any proof which also contradicts how he interacts with his higher ups the glimpses we did have the pleasure of witnessing. Quit ignoring common sense and speculating on what ifs.

So you're criticizing him about something he didn't know. That isn't stupidity you clown. The only one being stupid here is you. Voldemort rose back to power despite the many allied against him as well as plotting against him for years. Harry had other wizards aiding him in escaping as well as being fortunate enough to keep the details of what occurred from Voldemort. You tools who criticize Voldemort in the end fall on your asses because the pitiful arguments you have consist of details he wasn't aware of.

He disarmed Harry. Albus showed up. We later see him hit Harry with the Avada Kedavra but it didn't kill him due to the horcrux inside of him. So in the end we see Voldemort not hesitating to blast him with the kill curse but you still make excuses. Voldemort had Albus killed in any event and didn't lose anything due to the events of the duel at the ministry of magic.

Your moronic post is something a kid would say to his mommy. Mommy why didn't the bad guy just kill the good guy as soon as he had the chance. Voldemort later hit him with the killing curse right out of the ****ing gate you moron.

Resisting an attack and laying on your backside isn't whopping someone's ass. He also had inspirational help against Voldemort in the form of Albus and his friends.

False. Rocky was defeated but he lacked the internal motivation. Nothing was wrong with him physically nor was he ill. Once again you ignore the context. Rocky still lost but he didn't go into the fight with a torn bicep or anything that wasn't working correctly. He simply lacked the inner motivation which isn't comparable at all to my example. Anything else ? 😂

This was due to their connection not anything Harry consciously did. This was throughly explained in the film. Completely different than Clubber beating Rocky down.

I have logic and reason. Your position is Voldemort did nothing despite his skill and experience as a wizard in the water bubble. Whose theory sounds more plausible ?

I can't force you to comprehend but I can mock you when you don't.

😂

This thread will be closed due to your inability to form a coherent argument, I have over ten times the posts you do so of course I'd face certain bans since I'm more active and loud. You're as quiet as a mouse on the forum.

He tried to possess Harry that time though right? He could read his mind or at least use mind control to force him to tell the truth or something.

I realize Hogwarts is well guarded, that wasn't really my issue. It's just a stupid place to put a piece of your soul..when you have literally the entire world at your disposal and powerful defensive magics to use to protect it. It was especially dumb for him to leave it there under the guise of visiting Dumbledore for a teaching position. The added advantage of leaving it somewhere else in the world is..easier access if you ever need to go retrieve it. He put it in a safe place that was also the absolute best place in the world for it to be for others to defend him from getting at it. Also why did he allow a ghost to know where he was hiding it? He either told her about where he intended to put it or allowed her to just follow him. This person lacks basic critical thinking skills. Btw that ghost should be kicked out of Hogwarts for not letting Dumbledore know a piece of magic Hitlers soul was somewhere in the school.

Portkeys can't be used directly inside Hogwarts true, but all it takes is some mind control(especially since movie Harry lacks the book versions feats of somewhat resisting mind control). "Go outside and touch this funny looking twig at the edge of the forbidden forest". Or rather just "cut yourself and give me the blood bro". Or do it during the summer. Harry is protected from magic inside the house, so once a Dursley leaves the house mind control one of them and have them try to get the blood. Or do it while hes on Hogsmeade trip. So many ways.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol he put a piece of his soul into an animal. This person is smart?

He left a piece of his soul with the Malfoys without telling them what the hell it truly was. Is this smart?

Refused to use telepathy to read Harry's mind to find out if he was telling the truth about the whole "yeah you're f*cked and about to die" stuff.

Refused to tell a single god damn person about his horcruxes despite his being able to fully come back after dying would rely on at least ONE other person.

Stupidly hides a piece of his soul in Hogwarts, because reasons. Stupidly comes up with an overly complicated plan in Goblet of Fire to get Harry alone to get his blood and kill him when he could have had Moody abduct Harry any time. Could have had Moody turn any random item into a portkey to send Harry away.

The best part is I know you'll muster up some lame attempt to try to excuse every single thing I've said.

Yes, as he didn't trust them and in the end Lucius was fearful for his life and walked away like a coward.

He read his mind but in the midst of a battle and all you're just being idiotic.

Again, he was fine save for the unintentional horcrux which gave Harry insight into Voldemort he was unaware of.

Again, you just seem to be rambling now when the wizard rose to power, sacked the ministry, came back to a body (unlike Sauron), had Albus killed, and threw the entire wizarding world into a case of panic and fear.

Again you in the end just name random things he should have done ignoring the writer would have Harry survive in the end. There were always circumstances to why Harry survived but it had nothing to do with stupidity as you yourself seem to be an expert in.

Ps. To juggerfatguy, your post wouldn't show up when I quoted it(ironic since I have dubbed you Mr. invisible but I responded to it minus your awful quote kmc doesn't recognize.

Originally posted by Surtur
He tried to possess Harry that time though right? He could read his mind or at least use mind control to force him to tell the truth or something.

I realize Hogwarts is well guarded, that wasn't really my issue. It's just a stupid place to put a piece of your soul..when you have literally the entire world at your disposal and powerful defensive magics to use to protect it. It was especially dumb for him to leave it there under the guise of visiting Dumbledore for a teaching position. The added advantage of leaving it somewhere else in the world is..easier access if you ever need to go retrieve it. He put it in a safe place that was also the absolute best place in the world for it to be for others to defend him from getting at it. Also why did he allow a ghost to know where he was hiding it? He either told her about where he intended to put it or allowed her to just follow him. This person lacks basic critical thinking skills. Btw that ghost should be kicked out of Hogwarts for not letting Dumbledore know a piece of magic Hitlers soul was somewhere in the school.

Portkeys can't be used directly inside Hogwarts true, but all it takes is some mind control(especially since movie Harry lacks the book versions feats of somewhat resisting mind control). "Go outside and touch this funny looking twig at the edge of the forbidden forest". Or rather just "cut yourself and give me the blood bro". Or do it during the summer. Harry is protected from magic inside the house, so once a Dursley leaves the house mind control one of them and have them try to get the blood. Or do it while hes on Hogsmeade trip. So many ways.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, of course he is since he was able to successfully do so and use this to his advantage.

Putting it inside a living being is not an advantage. Especially when he didn't tell anybody "yeah, take care of this snake if something ever happens to me, like seriously take care of it".

Yes, as he didn't trust them and in the end Lucius was fearful for his life and walked away like a coward.

Do you perhaps think part of the problem is he'd murder a follower for looking at him the wrong way? Tough to build trust that way, but then it's also weird to not have at least one person with the keys to bringing you back to life.

He read his mind but in the midst of a battle and all you're just being idiotic.

No he doesn't.

Again, he was fine save for the unintentional horcrux which gave Harry insight into Voldemort he was unaware of.

No he wasn't fine, he left a piece of his soul with Malfoy and another with Bellatrix. Bellatrix knew the item was important, but didn't know it was a horcrux.

Again, you just seem to be rambling now when the wizard rose to power, sacked the ministry, came back to a body (unlike Sauron), had Albus killed, and threw the entire wizarding world into a case of panic and fear.

Again you in the end just name random things he should have done ignoring the writer would have Harry survive in the end. There were always circumstances to why Harry survived but it had nothing to do with stupidity as you yourself seem to be an expert in.

It had everything to do with stupidity actually. Stupidity and pride. Harry of course did have the plot on his side, but at least Voldemort could try to be a bit smarter.

Originally posted by Surtur
Putting it inside a living being is not an advantage. Especially when he didn't tell anybody "yeah, take care of this snake if something ever happens to me, like seriously take care of it".

Do you perhaps think part of the problem is he'd murder a follower for looking at him the wrong way? Tough to build trust that way, but then it's also weird to not have at least one person with the keys to bringing you back to life.

No he doesn't.[/B]

No he wasn't fine, he left a piece of his soul with Malfoy and another with Bellatrix. Bellatrix knew the item was important, but didn't know it was a horcrux.

It had everything to do with stupidity actually. Stupidity and pride. Harry of course did have the plot on his side, but at least Voldemort could try to be a bit smarter. [/B]

Voldemort was smart you idiot. The problem wasn't the location or keep away it was the connection between he and Harry he was unaware of. For ****s sake you're stupid you cannot even break this down yourself.

Lmao, dear lord you can't take it whenever anyone criticizes characters you have a hard on for.

It makes sense you feel Voldemort is smart.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lmao, dear lord you can't take it whenever anyone criticizes characters you have a hard on for.

It makes sense you feel Voldemort is smart.

You're an idiot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I refuted your points. The connection to Harry was the problem not the location of the items. They would an error have just figured them all out without this.

You're an idiot.

You feel you refuted them, but then you always do..with every single person you debate, no matter how out there your logic is..you always declare yourself the winner.

You're like the kid from school who had to tell everyone else how cool he was.

Originally posted by Surtur
You feel you refuted them, but then you always do..with every single person you debate, no matter how out there your logic is..you always declare yourself the winner.

You're like the kid from school who had to tell everyone else how cool he was.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again the problem isn't where he put them or who knew it was Harry's connection into him to determine where they were or who knew by your trashy suggestion. Just get the **** out of here you moron.

Lol no, putting them in Hogwarts was stupid. Putting your soul inside a living being was stupid. Hiding them with people and not telling them why is stupid, and that is all without even taking the connection to Harry into account. Those decisions do not suddenly become wise if that connection never existed.

I notice you really do love to call people idiots and morons, most likely due to years of your own stupidity being pointed out to you.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol no, putting them in Hogwarts was stupid. Putting your soul inside a living being was stupid. Hiding them with people and not telling them why is stupid, and that is all without even taking the connection to Harry into account. Those decisions do not suddenly become wise if that connection never existed.

I notice you really do love to call people idiots and morons, most likely due to years of your own stupidity being pointed out to you.

You saying something is stupid without explaining why based off logic is well, stupid. You're an idiot so I call you on it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just repeat yourself but how would they know about them all if not for Harry's connection. How would they have learned of them all minus the connection.

You saying something is stupid without explaining why based off logic is well, stupid. You're an idiot so I call you on it.

I repeat it because you constantly fail to actually refute it. I know you feel you do, but your feelings are irrelevant, as they always have been.

Originally posted by Surtur
I repeat it because you constantly fail to actually refute it. I know you feel you do, but your feelings are irrelevant, as they always have been.

You're done here, druggie.

Jesus Christ man learn to operate the quote feature like a grown up. Maybe if you controlled your butthurt you'd be able to quote properly 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you think it is easy to achieve what he did with time and planning ?? You also do not reference Albus and others taking nearly the same amount of time to plan against him while having the benefit of their bodies and open communication for years. Not everyone can inspire the fear in other wizards of the same abilities. You also forget he was the darkest wizard of all time. No one else went down his dark path or can pretend to be Voldemort you clod.

You’re an idiot if you think Albus had the same amount of time to plan. Tom was planning shit since he was a child. And didn’t come into power until his 40’s and that’s when Albus started working against him. And yes even a person of average intelligence with 30+ years for planning could totally wreck shit. With help of course which Tom had plenty of….

Originally posted by quanchi112
Now you do not want to give him credit when we clearly see he runs this ship. It ultimately comes down to his decisions yet you claim hey maybe it's someone else. That's ridiculous and minus any proof which also contradicts how he interacts with his higher ups the glimpses we did have the pleasure of witnessing. Quit ignoring common sense and speculating on what ifs.

You act as if he was the only Dark Lord in history. He followed a similar path as Grindelwald and other dark magic users. Yes he was more successful but the blueprints were there. And yes he had help. Multiple Death Eaters with high influence pulling strings for him behind the scenes. As stated, the only decisions we actually see/know he made on his own were shitty ones. Pretty much everything regarding Harry, making a mortal being a Horcrux, letting himself be seen due to pride and idiocy,

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you're criticizing him about something he didn't know. That isn't stupidity you clown. The only one being stupid here is you. Voldemort rose back to power despite the many allied against him as well as plotting against him for years. Harry had other wizards aiding him in escaping as well as being fortunate enough to keep the details of what occurred from Voldemort. You tools who criticize Voldemort in the end fall on your asses because the pitiful arguments you have consist of details he wasn't aware of.

I’m not criticizing him for not knowing. But he knew something wasn’t right and kept trying anyway like a dumbass. He could have been done with Harry long ago had he not been so blind to his shortcomings

Originally posted by quanchi112
He disarmed Harry. Albus showed up. We later see him hit Harry with the Avada Kedavra but it didn't kill him due to the horcrux inside of him. So in the end we see Voldemort not hesitating to blast him with the kill curse but you still make excuses. Voldemort had Albus killed in any event and didn't lose anything due to the events of the duel at the ministry of magic.

Sure he finally tried to kill Harry outright when Harry allowed it. Good on him!!!! But it took YEARS of defeats to finally try that. He had him dead to right in the graveyard for like an hour and decided to monologue and play games instead of doing what needed to be done. Then he had Harry again and decided to whisper sweet nothings in his ear until Albus came. Then even after he fled Albus he was in close proximity to Harry, after Harry beat his monkey ass mentally, and still just shit talked instead of trying to end it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your moronic post is something a kid would say to his mommy. Mommy why didn't the bad guy just kill the good guy as soon as he had the chance. Voldemort later hit him with the killing curse right out of the ****ing gate you moron.

Sure when Harry basically told him to. Voldemort taking orders from Harry. Interesting

Originally posted by quanchi112
Resisting an attack and laying on your backside isn't whopping someone's ass. He also had inspirational help against Voldemort in the form of Albus and his friends.

Gloating after a loss doesn’t make you the winner. Brock Lesnar whompped Frank Mir in their first fight yet he lost while looking more dominant and in better condition after the fight since Mir was a bloody mess. Tom may have looked better afterwards but he still lost. Own it troll

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Rocky was defeated but he lacked the internal motivation. Nothing was wrong with him physically nor was he ill. Once again you ignore the context. Rocky still lost but he didn't go into the fight with a torn bicep or anything that wasn't working correctly. He simply lacked the inner motivation which isn't comparable at all to my example. Anything else ? 😂

Of course it’s comparable. Rocky wasn’t prepared and he just suffered a huge emotional blow before the fight. He was not in any condition to fight as his focus was elsewhere. It’s the same thing. Tom being unprepared doesn’t erase the “L”

Originally posted by quanchi112
This was due to their connection not anything Harry consciously did. This was throughly explained in the film. Completely different than Clubber beating Rocky down.

So Tom was disarmed and therefore lost the duel due to their connection right? Glad we agree 👆

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have logic and reason. Your position is Voldemort did nothing despite his skill and experience as a wizard in the water bubble. Whose theory sounds more plausible ?

Strawman again. I didn’t say he did nothing but I guess since you have no leg to stand on you have to make shit up 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I can't force you to comprehend but I can mock you when you don't.
😂

To be fair your quantroll logic is hard to understand to ration thinkers who use logic and evidence based arguments. Pulling shit out of one’s ass is a talent lost on actual debaters

Originally posted by quanchi112
This thread will be closed due to your inability to form a coherent argument, I have over ten times the posts you do so of course I'd face certain bans since I'm more active and loud. You're as quiet as a mouse on the forum.

Bans don’t come from being active and loud. They come from trolling and breaking other rules. You suck at this and it’s proven by your bans and ability to get threads closed with your antics

Originally posted by Surtur
He tried to possess Harry that time though right? He could read his mind or at least use mind control to force him to tell the truth or something.

Are you talking about the final duel between them? I’ll have to rewatch it the duel to be sure

Originally posted by Surtur
I realize Hogwarts is well guarded, that wasn't really my issue. It's just a stupid place to put a piece of your soul..when you have literally the entire world at your disposal and powerful defensive magics to use to protect it. It was especially dumb for him to leave it there under the guise of visiting Dumbledore for a teaching position. The added advantage of leaving it somewhere else in the world is..easier access if you ever need to go retrieve it. He put it in a safe place that was also the absolute best place in the world for it to be for others to defend him from getting at it.

I think his whole plan was to eventually take over the school so he would have access to it if needed if the plan went through. Granted he should have waited to put it there until after he had the school in hand but the hiding place was pretty solid. Also I’m sure he thought there would never be a need to have to go back for it. An oversight. He’s far too confident

Originally posted by Surtur
Also why did he allow a ghost to know where he was hiding it? He either told her about where he intended to put it or allowed her to just follow him. This person lacks basic critical thinking skills. Btw that ghost should be kicked out of Hogwarts for not letting Dumbledore know a piece of magic Hitlers soul was somewhere in the school.

I think he got the info from her of where the diadem was located. He wouldn’t have told her the location of where he was hinding it though. Iirc she saw him go in there or something. Been a minute since I’ve seen the film admittedly

Originally posted by Surtur
Portkeys can't be used directly inside Hogwarts true, but all it takes is some mind control(especially since movie Harry lacks the book versions feats of somewhat resisting mind control). "Go outside and touch this funny looking twig at the edge of the forbidden forest". Or rather just "cut yourself and give me the blood bro". Or do it during the summer. Harry is protected from magic inside the house, so once a Dursley leaves the house mind control one of them and have them try to get the blood. Or do it while hes on Hogsmeade trip. So many ways.

Completely agree with you here man. Soooooo many ways!!!!!

Originally posted by juggerman
Jesus Christ man learn to operate the quote feature like a grown up. Maybe if you controlled your butthurt you'd be able to quote properly 😂

You’re an idiot if you think Albus had the same amount of time to plan. Tom was planning shit since he was a child. And didn’t come into power until his 40’s and that’s when Albus started working against him. And yes even a person of average intelligence with 30+ years for planning could totally wreck shit. With help of course which Tom had plenty of….

You act as if he was the only Dark Lord in history. He followed a similar path as Grindelwald and other dark magic users. Yes he was more successful but the blueprints were there. And yes he had help. Multiple Death Eaters with high influence pulling strings for him behind the scenes. As stated, the only decisions we actually see/know he made on his own were shitty ones. Pretty much everything regarding Harry, making a mortal being a Horcrux, letting himself be seen due to pride and idiocy,

I’m not criticizing him for not knowing. But he knew something wasn’t right and kept trying anyway like a dumbass. He could have been done with Harry long ago had he not been so blind to his shortcomings

Sure he finally tried to kill Harry outright when Harry allowed it. Good on him!!!! But it took YEARS of defeats to finally try that. He had him dead to right in the graveyard for like an hour and decided to monologue and play games instead of doing what needed to be done. Then he had Harry again and decided to whisper sweet nothings in his ear until Albus came. Then even after he fled Albus he was in close proximity to Harry, after Harry beat his monkey ass mentally, and still just shit talked instead of trying to end it.

Sure when Harry basically told him to. Voldemort taking orders from Harry. Interesting

Gloating after a loss doesn’t make you the winner. Brock Lesnar whompped Frank Mir in their first fight yet he lost while looking more dominant and in better condition after the fight since Mir was a bloody mess. Tom may have looked better afterwards but he still lost. Own it troll

Of course it’s comparable. Rocky wasn’t prepared and he just suffered a huge emotional blow before the fight. He was not in any condition to fight as his focus was elsewhere. It’s the same thing. Tom being unprepared doesn’t erase the “L”

So Tom was disarmed and therefore lost the duel due to their connection right? Glad we agree 👆

Strawman again. I didn’t say he did nothing but I guess since you have no leg to stand on you have to make shit up 😂

To be fair your quantroll logic is hard to understand to ration thinkers who use logic and evidence based arguments. Pulling shit out of one’s ass is a talent lost on actual debaters

Bans don’t come from being active and loud. They come from trolling and breaking other rules. You suck at this and it’s proven by your bans and ability to get threads closed with your antics

So you do not count the time Akbus had to plot against himself it's an actual body. I guess you're counting Tom practicing his skills since you know Albus has more time since he was older you dummy. Tom was learning new skills and plotting but he didn't have a crystal ball at his disposal. Albus also had plenty of help and a body. albus had more time period. Albus died and was unable to successfully stop Voldemort himself.

Who cares if there were other dark lords ? What decisions did the other dark lords make when Voldemort ran the ship. It's like saying Lebron was inspired by Jordan so Jordan made decisions for Lebron during his era. Utterly ridiculous. What guy has done so on his own ?? No one. Voldemort was the one who rose to power and who put together the deatheaters and the movement. So we don't see any one else influencing one decision so you just rescinded your baseless claim. He didn't do so intentionally so something outside his knowledge and awareness isn't stupidity. Do you know what stupidity means ? You ironically are its champion.

So despite not knowing you still think he should have known better. He was never all knowing and was relentless. Harry had context aiding him throughout his entire history. Voldemort was the superior wizard both in skill and knowledge.

Ignorance. He already tried to kill Harry as a baby. His mother protected him. You obviously aren't aware of this. Harry fled multiple times and was disarmed in OOTP. That's losing a duel. Harry was in hiding and Voldemort was without a body. You don't mention these reasons and instead focus on the years alone because you're a dishonest piece of shit. None of that matters since shooting the killing curse would affect the horcrux. We see him immediately do so and you just mentioned what happens so that wouldn't have worked yet you criticize him anyways. Stupidity just like Surtur the trump urine drinker.

Voldemort forced his cowardice to end and made him come to him.m he was scared and didn't want to give in so don't act like this was Harry's idea. Your trolling has no place on kmc. You're a liar and this is another reason you'll never take place in a one on one debate. You're a joke.

Voldemort wasn't defeated the attack was resisted. Voldemort disarmed him which is a win in a wizards duel just prior to Albus showing him to aid him. Try being honest but resisting a duel in which Voldemort still had his wand isn't a win you dolt. It's resisting a specific avenue of attack. I am ****ing amazing!!!

Rocky was prepared he just lacked internal motivation. Rocky's body mechanics worked fine. So now if you're emotionally upset it doesn't count ?? Mick already knew Clubber was going to clean his clock because Rocky was soft and not hungry. Quit lying. Tom had a special connection to Harry so it changed everything and he was unaware. Completely different. Apples and oranges my retarded fat fake married enemy.

False, as Harry fled. Running away is a loss. Tom disarmed Harry and tom didn't leave. Albus showed up to defend the wand less wizard. Context. It's so easy to crush you.

You are lying about the portrayal of the characters to give a shitty debating position. Awful.

Ration thinkers, eh ? Try to speak English you moronic invisible man.

More posts and more years mean more bans. Invisible posters with pitiful post counts don't get banned because they lack impact. You're a zero that loser in high school no one even pays attention to.

🙂

Originally posted by juggerman
Are you talking about the final duel between them? I’ll have to rewatch it the duel to be sure

I think his whole plan was to eventually take over the school so he would have access to it if needed if the plan went through. Granted he should have waited to put it there until after he had the school in hand but the hiding place was pretty solid. Also I’m sure he thought there would never be a need to have to go back for it. An oversight. He’s far too confident

I think he got the info from her of where the diadem was located. He wouldn’t have told her the location of where he was hinding it though. Iirc she saw him go in there or something. Been a minute since I’ve seen the film admittedly

Completely agree with you here man. Soooooo many ways!!!!!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Two simpletons agreeing. Two losers trying to be friends and trying to Voltron their stupidity.

Triggered.