Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by juggerman
Tom hid. Facts.

The kids were in danger and destroying the Ministry would help them how exactly? You just spout random nonsense 😂

Tom was clearly inferior. Albus was faster, easily countered and even kept Tom entrapped against his will all while being at a distinct disadvantage. That's sad for Tommy

Albus laid out the plan and it was followed which led to the relatively easy destruction of Tommy 😂

Albus was unsure of what to do to deal with Tom. He ignored Harry because he was afraid and unsure of how to protect Harry.

You spout random baseless claims. So you claim Albus was faster yet unable to best him in the duel which makes no sense. Why didn't he win the duel if he was easily faster ?

Albus died according to you to Tom's soldiers which means he gets the credit. So Tom won over both Albus and the ministry. Even according to your own warped logic Tom won. Brilliantly done, dumbass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have already established Albus hid according to you so unlike Tom he did nothing.

Albus was unsure of what to do to deal with Tom. He ignored Harry because he was afraid and unsure of how to protect Harry.

You spout random baseless claims. So you claim Albus was faster yet unable to best him in the duel which makes no sense. Why didn't he win the duel if he was easily faster ?

Albus died according to you to Tom's soldiers which means he gets the credit. So Tom won over both Albus and the ministry. Even according to your own warped logic Tom won. Brilliantly done, dumbass.

Tom hid and was trying to remain hidden as per your own words.

Still not sure how Albus destroying the Ministry would have helped the kids at all. Mind elaborating on why you think this would have helped?

Albus was faster. Kind of hard to finish a duel when your opponent runs away like a whipped dog

Albus died under his own orders. And since you clearly weren't paying attention I'll spell yet another obvious plot point out to you. Snape was not Tom's soldier. He was working for Albus. Therefore no Tom doesn't get the credit. You're welcome for explaining yet another simple point in the movie that everyone but you understood 😂

Originally posted by juggerman
Tom hid and was trying to remain hidden as per your own words.

Still not sure how Albus destroying the Ministry would have helped the kids at all. Mind elaborating on why you think this would have helped?

Albus was faster. Kind of hard to finish a duel when your opponent runs away like a whipped dog

Albus died under his own orders. And since you clearly weren't paying attention I'll spell yet another obvious plot point out to you. Snape was not Tom's soldier. He was working for Albus. Therefore no Tom doesn't get the credit. You're welcome for explaining yet another simple point in the movie that everyone but you understood 😂

Albus would be able to openly protect the kids. He did nothing and admitted later he was unsure. Awful.

If he's faster why couldn't he disarm Voldemort ? Voldemort disarmed Harry because he was quicker. You make no sense.

Albus didn't mean to magically injure himself against Voldemort's dark magic. Was that intentional ?

Tom killed Snape. Did Albus want tom to kill Snape ? Did tom want Albus dead ?
Regardless he did so under the orders of Tom and later died himself. He didn't even defend himself.

😂

Try making sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tom took out Albus and the Ministry while Albus just hid. 😂

Albus would be able to openly protect the kids. He did nothing and admitted later he was unsure. Awful.

If he's faster why couldn't he disarm Voldemort ? Voldemort disarmed Harry because he was quicker. You make no sense.

Albus didn't mean to magically injure himself against Voldemort's dark magic. Was that intentional ?

Tom killed Snape. Did Albus want tom to kill Snape ? Did tom want Albus dead ?
Regardless he did so under the orders of Tom and later died himself. He didn't even defend himself.

😂

Try making sense.

Albus' presence was known for years. Tom never came for him cuz he knew better.

So sacking the Ministry would do nothing to further Albus' goals? Glad you dropped your foolish point 😂

How could Tom could never disarm Harry any other time? It's as if Harry was distracted that one time....

The dark magic didn't kill him. Please just watch the movies for once.

That's not even good ABC logic. Albus chose he way out and allowed Snape to kill him. Snape could not have beaten Albus in an actual duel just as Tom was unable to win and chose to run

Originally posted by juggerman
Albus' presence was known for years. Tom never came for him cuz he knew better.

So sacking the Ministry would do nothing to further Albus' goals? Glad you dropped your foolish point 😂

How could Tom could never disarm Harry any other time? It's as if Harry was distracted that one time....

The dark magic didn't kill him. Please just watch the movies for once.

That's not even good ABC logic. Albus chose he way out and allowed Snape to kill him. Snape could not have beaten Albus in an actual duel just as Tom was unable to win and chose to run

It would solidify the Ministry under a stronger leader than that dope but he chose to flee instead with no objective of retaliation.

Harry went to attack him. Harry fled before a few times. Tom's wand resisted him as well. Context.

Albus was already fatally wounded by Tom's dark magic. Did he want that ? Albus wanted to make his death worth something since it was an inevitably due to Tom's dark magic making him a terminal case.

You make no sense. Albus died while Tom rose to power. Tom was the one who wielded more power and more fear over all in Britain.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tom had to come back first and ever since OOTP the ministry was aware and waged war against him. They lost. Albus wanted tom gone as well but despite all of this Tom prevailed.

It would solidify the Ministry under a stronger leader than that dope but he chose to flee instead with no objective of retaliation.

Harry went to attack him. Harry fled before a few times. Tom's wand resisted him as well. Context.

Albus was already fatally wounded by Tom's dark magic. Did he want that ? Albus wanted to make his death worth something since it was an inevitably due to Tom's dark magic making him a terminal case.

You make no sense. Albus died while Tom rose to power. Tom was the one who wielded more power and more fear over all in Britain.

Why did Tom have to come back again?

He objective was to out Tom. He did so very effectively

As per your logic Harry didn't flee he was just trying to finish his primary objective. Tom was defeated multiple times. He's sad

So IOW Tom didn't kill Albus and he was killed on Tom's orders either. Albus orchestrated his own death and he fooled Tom and apparently you too

Albus was considered the most powerful wizard for decades. Tom's rise and fall was a hiccup in comparison

Originally posted by juggerman
Why did Tom have to come back again?

He objective was to out Tom. He did so very effectively

As per your logic Harry didn't flee he was just trying to finish his primary objective. Tom was defeated multiple times. He's sad

So IOW Tom didn't kill Albus and he was killed on Tom's orders either. Albus orchestrated his own death and he fooled Tom and apparently you too

Albus was considered the most powerful wizard for decades. Tom's rise and fall was a hiccup in comparison

So you don't believe his objective was to take down Tom. 😂

False. Harry fled. His primary objective was disarming Tom and he failed. I explained the context. Tom had Albus killed and rose to power. Tom was the wizard the entire community feared. That's amazing.

Tom fatally wounded him. Tom's soldier executed him so he did die per Tom's orders. Tom took care of Snape so there went Albus' great idea. What an idea. Snape still died. 😂

Prove it. He never rose to power or did a damn thing to the ministry save go into hiding like pansy. Tom had Albus taken out and took out the ministry whereas Albus was not able to do either. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Love magic. Tom assured his stake to claim.

So you don't believe his objective was to take down Tom. 😂

False. Harry fled. His primary objective was disarming Tom and he failed. I explained the context. Tom had Albus killed and rose to power. Tom was the wizard the entire community feared. That's amazing.

Tom fatally wounded him. Tom's soldier executed him so he did die per Tom's orders. Tom took care of Snape so there went Albus' great idea. What an idea. Snape still died. 😂

Prove it. He never rose to power or did a damn thing to the ministry save go into hiding like pansy. Tom had Albus taken out and took out the ministry whereas Albus was not able to do either. 😂

Tom was felled by a dead woman and an infant

IF he showed up just to fight Tom he wouldn't have given Tom an out. Think for once

False Tom fled. Harry has more wins over Tom than vice versa. #facts

You clearly didn't watch the films. Snape was operating on Albus' order not Tom's. You missed several obvious plot points

If you watched the films you'd know.

Albus wins just like he won their duel 👆

Originally posted by juggerman
Tom was felled by a dead woman and an infant

IF he showed up just to fight Tom he wouldn't have given Tom an out. Think for once

False Tom fled. Harry has more wins over Tom than vice versa. #facts

You clearly didn't watch the films. Snape was operating on Albus' order not Tom's. You missed several obvious plot points

If you watched the films you'd know.

Albus wins just like he won their duel 👆

You are a troll. False. Context. You want to create a thread in which we see who wins a straight up duel ? This is why you're a troll you say things you don't even believe.

Tom wanted Albus dead and killed Snape. Albus was already going to die anyway per Tom's dark magic. Albus was a fool and he needed Severus to spell it it for him.

So now you lie about their duel. Trolgernaut.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A protective spell that needed a sacrifice to ward Harry. They all use magic in that world you dunce.

You are a troll. False. Context. You want to create a thread in which we see who wins a straight up duel ? This is why you're a troll you say things you don't even believe.

Tom wanted Albus dead and killed Snape. Albus was already going to die anyway per Tom's dark magic. Albus was a fool and he needed Severus to spell it it for him.

So now you lie about their duel. Trolgernaut.

So a dead woman and a baby beat him. Thanks for agreeing 👆

I already suggested a BZ and you cowered away. You know you don't want it

So IOW Tom didn't kill Albus and Snape killing him wasn't under Tom's order. Thanks for agreeing 👆

Tom fleeing = Tom losing.

Originally posted by juggerman
So a dead woman and a baby beat him. Thanks for agreeing 👆

I already suggested a BZ and you cowered away. You know you don't want it

So IOW Tom didn't kill Albus and Snape killing him wasn't under Tom's order. Thanks for agreeing 👆

Tom fleeing = Tom losing.

You're an idiot. I wouldn't waste my time on a troll who can't debate to save his life.

Tom had Albus kills per his orders. Snape died not according to Albus' plans. Way to go Tom.

Context. Tom rose to greater power than some closeted homosexual.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said to enact that magic you need to willingly give your life so that is a pretty big sacrifice. You need the context explained because you're an idiot.

You're an idiot. I wouldn't waste my time on a troll who can't debate to save his life.

Tom had Albus kills per his orders. Snape died not according to Albus' plans. Way to go Tom.

Context. Tom rose to greater power than some closeted homosexual.

So what I said was correct. A dead woman and a baby defeated Tommy. Thanks for agreeing once again 👆

You know the truth and that's why you won't seriously debate it. You just troll here where you're safe

Again you can't understand simple concepts. No wonder you lose ever debate you're in

Sure he had more than "some closeted homosexual" but not as much as this particular "closeted homosexual"

Albus wins again as he did in their duel

Originally posted by juggerman
So what I said was correct. A dead woman and a baby defeated Tommy. Thanks for agreeing once again 👆

You know the truth and that's why you won't seriously debate it. You just troll here where you're safe

Again you can't understand simple concepts. No wonder you lose ever debate you're in

Sure he had more than "some closeted homosexual" but not as much as this particular "closeted homosexual"

Albus wins again as he did in their duel

I've battlezoned you haven't. You're not worthy.

Irony.

Despite having a superior wand Albus was on the losing end of their duel. Voldemort wins. More power, more fear, and more authority as well as having Albus taken out. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You leave out the context so it isn't correct because the context clearly matters.

I've battlezoned you haven't. You're not worthy.

Irony.

Despite having a superior wand Albus was on the losing end of their duel. Voldemort wins. More power, more fear, and more authority as well as having Albus taken out. 😂

Was it not a dead woman and a baby that defeated Tommy?

Which is all the more telling as you cower

Doubt you know the meaning

Albus is faster, more skilled and was more effective in the duel. Not to mention Tommy ran away 😂

Originally posted by juggerman
Was it not a dead woman and a baby that defeated Tommy?

Which is all the more telling as you cower

Doubt you know the meaning

Albus is faster, more skilled and was more effective in the duel. Not to mention Tommy ran away 😂

I just value my time you don't. You're an imbecile.

Irony.

Based on ? If he's faster why didn't he disarm Tom ? You really don't make any sense.

Juggs already won this thread 8 months ago. He already accepted your concession. You lost, and decisively so.

Who did you have do your Sig? Didn't they tell you how stupid it is to have yoda say that.. when he would really say In trouble I am... Buffoonery 101

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again you ignore the context.

I just value my time you don't. You're an imbecile.

Irony.

Based on ? If he's faster why didn't he disarm Tom ? You really don't make any sense.

So you admit it was in fact a dead woman and a baby that beat him. Good

Then why ask if I wanted a separate thread? You tried to puff out your chest but forgot that you've run from me several times in the past 😂

Concession accepted

Hard to disarm a guy that's running away from you. Albus wins here like he did in their duel. Tom will likely flee again

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Juggs already won this thread 8 months ago. He already accepted your concession. You lost, and decisively so.

Facts 👆

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Who did you have do your Sig? Didn't they tell you how stupid it is to have yoda say that.. when he would really say In trouble I am... Buffoonery 101

😂

Originally posted by juggerman
So you admit it was in fact a dead woman and a baby that beat him. Good

Then why ask if I wanted a separate thread? You tried to puff out your chest but forgot that you've run from me several times in the past 😂

Concession accepted

Hard to disarm a guy that's running away from you. Albus wins here like he did in their duel. Tom will likely flee again

Facts 👆

😂

You aren't worth the time and don't make any sense. You're a retard trying to form an argument. It's painful to watch.

Tom dueled him and put him on his ass. Why since Albus is so much faster ? Why don't you make sense.

You're a joke. This thread is your life. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit ignoring the context.

You aren't worth the time and don't make any sense. You're a retard trying to form an argument. It's painful to watch.

Tom dueled him and put him on his ass. Why since Albus is so much faster ? Why don't you make sense.

You're a joke. This thread is your life. 😂

Concession accepted 😂

Yet you keep crawling back to me 😂

Albus held Tom in water and Tom was unable to do a thing about it until Harry came along. At least Albus got off his ass under his own power. He didn't disarm him because he didn't try to. But he did counter and block every single spell Tom tried 😂

More attacks that accentuate your shortcomings 😂