So perhaps he can win through bfr if he can get bulk through a portal. However manipulating wbh body directly will be extremely difficult. Also if it's energy absorption I'd need to see evidence of him being able to drain wbh when even the likes.. Of armcheddon were unable to handle a weaker green scars energy output
Hmm, not sure he can drain Hulk, Id will know better than I. Was referring to how, since Magneto can fly by manipulating the EM field, and make other things fly too, Nate can do the same.
He can also make people forget everything about themselves. Am projecting here, but removing WBH's motivation (why he's so angry) would depower him massively, I think.
Hulk has no answer to Nate's time/space manipulation.
>Nate freezes time/space and leaves him as a motionless statue.
>Nate sends him upwards of spiral to Brilliant City, where we know the vastly powerful inhabitants will greet him in the most unwelcome manner.
>Nate tosses him into a pit of a Black Hole.
>Nate sends him to the end of time, when the universe is in the state of entropy.
>Nate sends him to the beginning of time, when the big bang ignited.
Originally posted by Naija boy
So perhaps he can win through bfr if he can get bulk through a portal. However manipulating wbh body directly will be extremely difficult. Also if it's energy absorption I'd need to see evidence of him being able to drain wbh when even the likes.. Of armcheddon were unable to handle a weaker green scars energy output
Nate does not have to drain his gamma radiated body. Nate can drain him of his psychic energy, and leave him unconscious.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Fair enough options and I mentioned, esoteric options would be the key to this fight for shaman nate. Question though are these things he has actually done in combat?
He shifted Mimic outside of time in Dark X-Men.
He time traveled to the past in his 1996 annual.
He ported himself, and Idiris up spiral to the Brilliant City. And sent Helen down spiral in Nates final run.
Locked time/space in Cable v2 #30
Well if Nate fights stupidly (or normally) then WBH could thunderclap before and cause some serious damage. Remember this is Banner (genius intellect) who knows what Nate is capable of. I'm sure a thunderclap will come out before most things Nate can do.
So this fight depends on character mostly. Yes Nate has the capacity to win with exotic means. But that doesn't mean he will win. He might try something stupid, like try to lift WBH.
Originally posted by h1a8
Well if Nate fights stupidly (or normally) then WBH could thunderclap before and cause some serious damage. Remember this is Banner (genius intellect) who knows what Nate is capable of. I'm sure a thunderclap will come out before most things Nate can do.So this fight depends on character mostly. Yes Nate has the capacity to win with exotic means. But that doesn't mean he will win. He might try something stupid, like try to lift WBH.
Nate can see energy flows. The amount of power Hulk outputs, he'll see it easily enough and know Hulks a threat. Plus, there's the whole precog thing....
Originally posted by h1a8
Well if Nate fights stupidly (or normally) then WBH could thunderclap before and cause some serious damage. Remember this is Banner (genius intellect) who knows what Nate is capable of. I'm sure a thunderclap will come out before most things Nate can do.So this fight depends on character mostly. Yes Nate has the capacity to win with exotic means. But that doesn't mean he will win. He might try something stupid, like try to lift WBH.
You realize that Nate is not just some guy with human durability and tk/tp?
Originally posted by currymanHerald durability=human durability when it comes to WBH (it makes no phucking difference).
You realize that Nate is not just some guy with human durability and tk/tp?
WBH can disintegrate heralds and causally bust skyfather's barriers without touching them for crying out loud.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
...You don't even know who Nate is.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nate can see energy flows. The amount of power Hulk outputs, he'll see it easily enough and know Hulks a threat. Plus, there's the whole precog thing....
Pre cog before the bell rings is prep. Prep isn't allowed unless the OP says so.
I don't see much defense in stopping a thunderclap. It's most likely faster than anything Nate can do.
Originally posted by h1a8
Well if Nate fights stupidly (or normally) then WBH could thunderclap before and cause some serious damage. Remember this is Banner (genius intellect) who knows what Nate is capable of. I'm sure a thunderclap will come out before most things Nate can do.So this fight depends on character mostly. Yes Nate has the capacity to win with exotic means. But that doesn't mean he will win. He might try something stupid, like try to lift WBH.
Originally posted by h1a8
Herald durability=human durability when it comes to WBH (it makes no phucking difference).WBH can disintegrate heralds and causally bust skyfather's barriers without touching them for crying out loud.
Nate doesn't exist. I know what comics are and comics have characters do stupid shit all the time. Your point?
Pre cog before the bell rings is prep. Prep isn't allowed unless the OP says so.
I don't see much defense in stopping a thunderclap. It's most likely faster than anything Nate can do.
Weren't you the one who said Spiderman was faster than everyone else because of his precog?
He can react to a Northstar/Aurora speedblitz:
He can also react to lightning bolts:
He's got pretty fast reactions himself. And as for the defence, you know he can go intangible, right??