JLA Big 4 vs Thanos

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Portrayal and avg man.. Portrayal and avg.. Like I said.. If u can show me that pruneface has been depowered on panel since that Odin fight, then ure tree argument does hold some weight. Btw you just made Thanos look good since that was PG Thor. Thank you.
You are spot on. He will use highs while ignoring the average and flat out denying the lows.

Still waiting on those showings from Philo showing anybody on the team one shot killing a high herald.

Krona buster will be there, I'm sure.

JLA.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Do this again, and it will end badly for you. You've already lost my repect, and you don't want to lose my patience.

Wow. That's some weaksauce type shiet right there.
Originally posted by Philosophía
You haven't been able to provide one showing where he takes a group as powerful as this, and wins. How could this be his average and regular portrayal, when you can't even provide one example where he does so? Do you know what the word average and regular mean, or do I have to explain them to you?
Smh. Why do you think heroes shiet their pants when they find out Thanos gets involved? You know he is beyond heralds. You know he takes on teams of heroes that include heralds. In fact, he toys with heralds. You also know he tangles with trans and above. Only the uninformed or those who refuse to believe say otherwise. I always thought ure pretty well infromed unless you fall in the latter category. Please don't tell you think these 4 can beat him straight up.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm beginning to think you're trolling me, because I'm not sure how anybody could possibly say that Thanos' showing against the Avengers puts him above Superman/Green Lantern/Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter combined, and not get laughed at.
This is where you are wrong. Are you referring to his latest one which consisted of Avengers, Gotg, and FF? Smh...

Originally posted by Philosophía
Odin is one of his highest combat feats. It's not for nothing that Thanos is considered one of Odin's few low showings. Feel free to provide the plenty of other fights that Thanos has had which surpass his showing against Odin, though.

You'll notice [as I'm sure anybody reading this discussion has by now], me asking you something, and you not saying anything substantial, is a recurring thing.

Isn't that what you're doing?

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm not the one using only one, high-end showing for Thanos [the Odin fight] as the be-all, end all. If you want career high-feats, I'll give you career-high feats, and Superman would plow that ass rather savagely.

Backing down from your own standards seems to also be a recurring thing.

Exactly. Spoken like a troo Superwanker.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Don't act like you have any idea what you're talking about here.

Hal was no longer human, he was a spirit. He didn't have a body or what goes for a human mind, in the sense that others do. Batman, with his human mind, was almost driven mad controlling Spectre's power, had Jordan not intervened - Hal had become something else.

Noob Hal [as in, he just got Spectre's power and was getting used to it] overpowered a psychic [who had absorbed the power of other most powerful psychics in existence, and who also had completly destroyed DC earth and everybody on it - including the Justice League, some of whom were dead and others broken].

Then there's also him:

Scanning the entire Universe for the trans.
Merging the minds of all the league with his own consciousness.
Collected all of the human misery and suffering through the temporal timeline, and then psychically fed it to Sitgmonus
His mind functioning on an Universal level.
Spectre's body is a consciousness itself, containing eternity itself.
shitload of etc.

To forcefully grab Spectre's consciousness [alongside the Justice League's] and throw it into somebody else's consciousness is far above what Thanos is capable of doing, or resisting.

Just doing this to Superman [who has telepathy resistance feats at least as good as Thanos', to say the least] proves that J'onn would be a pain in the ass for Thanos. As it is? Yeah, things won't go good.


And yet J'onn was able to tp Spectre even though he gets his ass telepathically wooped by Despero. Lol.. What does that tell you? Moreover if we're talking about the same scene, Kyle even refers to Hal as "going out of control as he was when he was Parallax". Spectre then goes on to say "I feel ashamed of what the Spectre...what I...Have done here today. Kyle's right. I am out of control." If that does not scream fragile I don't know what is. And oh yes.. So please quit it with the tp route. It ain't gonna work on pruneface. He will only hurt himself attempting to do so.

😂

The JLA wins 70/30

Those scans of any of this JLA one shot killing a high herald just aren't coming in eh? Even his biggest wanker can't produce them.. Case closed.

Umm, Hal did...

Hal did a OHK on a freakin' Guardian.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wow. That's some weaksauce type shiet right there.
I can't hide my dislike for blabbering, argumentless trolls. And I'd rather not treat fire with fire, instead leaving it to those in 'authority' to tell you that you can't start a fire in the first place.

*shrug*

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Why do you think heroes shiet their pants when they find out Thanos gets involved? You know he is beyond heralds. You know he takes on teams of heroes that include heralds. In fact, he toys with heralds. You also know he tangles with trans and above. Only the uninformed or those who refuse to believe say otherwise. I always thought ure pretty well infromed unless you fall in the latter category. Please don't tell you think these 4 can beat him straight up.
I take it you don't have actual showings [that should have been obvious the first time I asked you for them, and you were incapable of providing, well, anything]. Your inaptitude is duly noted. 👆

Your argument is now that the heroes reaction when Thanos appears means that he beats 4 of the most competent ones in comics, working as a team?

Dmillsanosi, I can't even waste the energy to laugh at you for that baffling argument.

I guess Darkseid would mudstomp this team, given how people shit their pants whene---wait, no---

Superman beats that ass by his own.

Well then, I guess Thanos [who is demonstrably weaker than Darkseid, btw], would be -- wait, no--

"Who goes first?" says Iron Man, as Thanos is about to get his ass plowed by mostly meta canon-fodder, with Rulk, Hulk and Thor being the only legitimate powerhouses.

At least the smoke is not coming out of his ass.

😂

There, I gave you a showing of Thanos fighting many, well, not high heralds [only Thor and, eventough he is not on KMC, Hulk could be considered ones] and getting his shit ravashed, brutally.

He is 0-1.

Do you have another showing where he takes another similar team [with the one in this thread, perhaps?] and beats them?

Let's get his 'average' or 'regular portrayal'. 🙂

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Moreover if we're talking about the same scene, Kyle even refers to Hal as "going out of control as he was when he was Parallax". Spectre then goes on to say "I feel ashamed of what the Spectre...what I...Have done here today. Kyle's right. I am out of control." If that does not scream fragile I don't know what is.
Hal was conflicted between what he was as a human, and what he had become as the Spectre. That doesn't change the fact that he was the Spectre. That he was no longer human. And that J'onn effortlessly pulled his consciousness, along with the Justice League's, into the Joker's mind.

Thanos is not on that level. 🙂

I'm baffled that people still bother to address kurupt thanosi.

Originally posted by Philosophía
All the members on the team here have superior showings to that of 'getting their ass beat by Odin'. But let's follow your line of logic, a bit, just for the fun of it. Do you want to imply that, say, Captain Marvel getting an extended beating even worse than that of Thanos received from Odin, against Spectre [Day of Vengeance]
Just to address ure earlier statement, wtf!! u kiddin me right? Why make ureself look stoopid with DoV Cap and use him for this argument? For those in the know it's pretty self explanatory don't you think. Smh..

Originally posted by Philosophía
Do this again, and it will end badly for you. You've already lost my repect, and you don't want to lose my patience.

Gotta bring this up again. Pretty sad. This supposed to intimidate? Dude ure a guy behind a computer talking about comics. Bro seriously... I know that's ure modus operandi, but wtf man. Omg I almost fell off my seat when I first saw this. But ish coo. I'm havin some fun. 😂

Originally posted by Philosophía
I can't hide my dislike for blabbering, argumentless trolls. And I'd rather not treat fire with fire, instead leaving it to those in 'authority' to tell you that you can't start a fire in the first place.
*shrug*
Again lulzworthy. 😂

Originally posted by Philosophía
I take it you don't have actual showings [that should have been obvious the first time I asked you for them, and you were incapable of providing, well, anything]. Your inaptitude is duly noted. 👆

Man u really want me to have to fish for this shiet right. In all actuality I kinda don't have access to my shiet and it would be really annoying to fish for bits and pieces online. But who are we kidding here man? You know what type of character and what level he normally operates. Like I said, the handful (prolly more than a handful) of appearances he's had throughout his easily portray him as something far above heralds. I don't know why you keep refusing or fail to see this. Just so u don't get ure panties in a bunch again (since everyone knows how easily that happens to you) I'll mention a few. K let's see um.. besides toying with heralds including heralds of the highest order (ie Surfer)
1.Fought Avengers (thor, IM, Cap Marv, Vision, Thing, Wanda, etc. kills Warlock(herald w/soul gem) in the process. This was back when he was in his infant stages of power. Lord knows how many upgrades he's had.
2.Fought GotG while severely weakened (included 3 telepaths of the highest order and couldnt do shiet). A weapon that kills gods breaks on his skin and a flarkkin cosmic cube was the only way to pacify that fukker. A cosmic cube for cryin out loud.
3.Matched The In-Betweener to break him out of a cell created by abstracts(Lord Chaos and Master Order).
4. Tangled with PG Thor(actually beat Thor with a force block) and PG Champ and looked no worse for wear.
5. Was beating the living shiet out of Lord Mar-Vell (Lord Mar-Vell one-shot killed a trans not long before and absolutely embarassed 2 heralds at the same time one of which was Surfer)
6. Up close and personal scuffle with the mighty Tyrant - self explanatory
7. Gave Odin a cause to work up some sweat - self explanatory
And the list goes on and on and on and on and on, but u know that already dont you?
Originally posted by Philosophía
Your argument is now that the heroes reaction when Thanos appears means that he beats 4 of the most competent ones in comics, working as a team?

Dmillsanosi, I can't even waste the energy to laugh at you for that baffling argument.

u thought that was an argument?

Originally posted by Philosophía
I guess Darkseid would mudstomp this team, given how people shit their pants whene---wait, no---
Superman beats that ass by his own.
Done wanking yet?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Well then, I guess Thanos [who is demonstrably weaker than Darkseid, btw], would be -- wait, no--
Sure I guess if you think a guy that gets regularly beaten by herald levelers is "demonstrably" stronger.

Originally posted by Philosophía

"Who goes first?" says Iron Man, as Thanos is about to get his ass plowed by mostly meta canon-fodder, with Rulk, Hulk and Thor being the only legitimate powerhouses.

At least the smoke is not coming out of his ass.
😂
There, I gave you a showing of Thanos fighting many, well, not high heralds [only Thor and, eventough he is not on KMC, Hulk could be considered ones] and getting his shit ravashed, brutally.
He is 0-1.
Lol. Hook line and sinker. You're one of those who just wish, no love to see certain Marvel characters fall and start waving the pom poms as soon as you think you've got it. See your hate blinds and consumes you like some other fella in here (he who shall not be named). You wish for it to happen so bad and so often you can almost taste it. If you read the comic properly you would have known that he in all likelihood did damage to himself(context bro...look it up). In fact they dedicated a good chunk of the book to explain it. It was Tony Stark no less who gave a strong backing for that statement. But of course you see past that. Now even if you do the ignorant thing and looks past that, how do you explain the writer/artist having the need to put a small army of heroes just to take him down. A group that included Thor, Hulk, Rulk, Captain Britian, Ms. Marvel, Iron Man, War Machine, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Groot, Drax, Gamora, Cage, Giant Man, plus probably a dozen other heroes, just to beat Thanos. Oh wait to you they are just fodder. They can never hope to beat the "JLA Big 4"!! "Zomgz no no no never! Not my beloved Superman." Thanos is such a pimp that fukka wasn't even down for the count. That muthafukka was on the verge of a counter, but had to be removed by a group of cosmic powerhouses that even included The Stranger. Come on dude? Seriously. How's that for a writer trying to convey an average showing for Thanos? Funny thing was you consider this low. Lulzworthy I think. 😆

Originally posted by Philosophía
Do you have another showing where he takes another similar team [with the one in this thread, perhaps?] and beats them?

Let's get his 'average' or 'regular portrayal'. 🙂

Read above... Let it sink in. Let go of the hate. It can only consume you.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Hal was conflicted between what he was as a human, and what he had become as the Spectre. That doesn't change the fact that he was the Spectre. That he was no longer human. And that J'onn effortlessly pulled his consciousness, along with the Justice League's, into the Joker's mind.
Thanos is not on that level. 🙂
Ure going to lose this argument. You know that don't you? I don't want to have to skewl you on this too. In fact I'm done. I gather it would be like tying to ram into a brick wall.

This is like watching a guy with a stick try to fight a tank..

Captain marvel wasn't amped in the start of the fight with spectre and took a horrendus beating from him without going down. Lulz at celly here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Captain marvel wasn't amped in the start of the fight with spectre and took a horrendus beating from him without going down. Lulz at celly here.
Horrendous beating? Sigh.. Much of the beginnig was off panel. How can you say how bad the beating was? I'll give you Cpt. Marvel being a tough SoB, but Spectre wasn't even trying to beat him to death. He was trying to "cook" the magic out of him. It was more Billy trying anything to delay him, but was being swatted away like a minor nuisance. I don't know if you're remembering correctly, but I think ure mistaking the part where the fight gets really messy when Enchantress started the actual amping all the way to how he was finally KO'd by Spectre when the amp wore off. In reality if it weren't for the amp he could have just ended things much faster with Billy like how he did when Spectre's true target was a just stone's throw away from him.

Spectre even goes on to say "Sleep now my child while I deal with your master. All of these delays and distractions designed to keep me away, while you marshaled your insignificant resources."

In the end, DoV Captain Marvel gets brought up simply on how powerful he got with the extra wild magic and not for how durable he was against a Spectre that wasn't even trying to beat him down.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Horrendous beating? Sigh.. Much of the beginnig was off panel. How can you say how bad the beating was? I'll give you Cpt. Marvel being a tough SoB, but Spectre wasn't even trying to beat him to death. He was trying to "cook" the magic out of him. It was more Billy trying anything to delay him, but was being swatted away like a minor nuisance. I don't know if you're remembering correctly, but I think ure mistaking the part where the fight gets really messy when Enchantress started the actual amping all the way to how he was finally KO'd by Spectre when the amp wore off. In reality if it weren't for the amp he could have just ended things much faster with Billy like how he did when Spectre's true target was a just stone's throw away from him.

Spectre even goes on to say "Sleep now my child while I deal with your master. All of these delays and distractions designed to keep me away, while you marshaled your insignificant resources."

In the end, DoV Captain Marvel gets brought up simply on how powerful he got with the extra wild magic and not for how durable he was against a Spectre that wasn't even trying to beat him down.


That's the second fight which has no bearing on how much spectre beat cap in the first fight and spectre was beating on him for a while before enchantress started to amp himt. Of pannel or not that's a lot better than thanos getting his shit pushed in by odin or oneshotted by galactus. Now are we going to play the high end fight game or not? Superman took hits from Emperor Joker without even being harmed, hal stalemated ZH parallax, thanos got his shit pushed in by odin blah, blah, blah.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's the second fight which has no bearing on how much spectre beat cap in the first fight and spectre was beating on him for a while before enchantress started to amp himt. Of pannel or not that's a lot better than thanos getting his shit pushed in by odin or oneshotted by galactus. Now are we going to play the high end fight game or not? Superman took hits from Emperor Joker without even being harmed, hal stalemated ZH parallax, thanos got his shit pushed in by odin blah, blah, blah.
I get it. Your still stuck on the image of CM all bloodied and stuff. This image right?

Well guess what? He already had an amp. That's the only reason why he's still up as explained through the exchange b/n Blue Devil and Enchantress. She's been amping him since the Shadowpact arrived at the scene. That makes the argument that CM was taking a horrendous beating irrelevant.

i'll take the jla here. speed + lasso=plenty of problems for thanos.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Just to address ure earlier statement, wtf!! u kiddin me right? Why make ureself look stoopid with DoV Cap and use him for this argument? For those in the know it's pretty self explanatory don't you think. Smh..

Gotta bring this up again. Pretty sad. This supposed to intimidate? Dude ure a guy behind a computer talking about comics. Bro seriously... I know that's ure modus operandi, but wtf man. Omg I almost fell off my seat when I first saw this. But ish coo. I'm havin some fun. 😂

Again lulzworthy. 😂

Man u really want me to have to fish for this shiet right. In all actuality I kinda don't have access to my shiet and it would be really annoying to fish for bits and pieces online. But who are we kidding here man? You know what type of character and what level he normally operates. Like I said, the handful (prolly more than a handful) of appearances he's had throughout his easily portray him as something far above heralds. I don't know why you keep refusing or fail to see this. Just so u don't get ure panties in a bunch again (since everyone knows how easily that happens to you) I'll mention a few. K let's see um.. besides toying with heralds including heralds of the highest order (ie Surfer)
1.Fought Avengers (thor, IM, Cap Marv, Vision, Thing, Wanda, etc. kills Warlock(herald w/soul gem) in the process. This was back when he was in his infant stages of power. Lord knows how many upgrades he's had.
2.Fought GotG while severely weakened (included 3 telepaths of the highest order and couldnt do shiet). A weapon that kills gods breaks on his skin and a flarkkin cosmic cube was the only way to pacify that fukker. A cosmic cube for cryin out loud.
3.Matched The In-Betweener to break him out of a cell created by abstracts(Lord Chaos and Master Order).
4. Tangled with PG Thor(actually beat Thor with a force block) and PG Champ and looked no worse for wear.
5. Was beating the living shiet out of Lord Mar-Vell (Lord Mar-Vell one-shot killed a trans not long before and absolutely embarassed 2 heralds at the same time one of which was Surfer)
6. Up close and personal scuffle with the mighty Tyrant - self explanatory
7. Gave Odin a cause to work up some sweat - self explanatory
And the list goes on and on and on and on and on, but u know that already dont you?
u thought that was an argument?

Done wanking yet?

Sure I guess if you think a guy that gets regularly beaten by herald levelers is "demonstrably" stronger.

Lol. Hook line and sinker. You're one of those who just wish, no love to see certain Marvel characters fall and start waving the pom poms as soon as you think you've got it. See your hate blinds and consumes you like some other fella in here (he who shall not be named). You wish for it to happen so bad and so often you can almost taste it. If you read the comic properly you would have known that he in all likelihood did damage to himself(context bro...look it up). In fact they dedicated a good chunk of the book to explain it. It was Tony Stark no less who gave a strong backing for that statement. But of course you see past that. Now even if you do the ignorant thing and looks past that, how do you explain the writer/artist having the need to put a small army of heroes just to take him down. A group that included Thor, Hulk, Rulk, Captain Britian, Ms. Marvel, Iron Man, War Machine, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Groot, Drax, Gamora, Cage, Giant Man, plus probably a dozen other heroes, just to beat Thanos. Oh wait to you they are just fodder. They can never hope to beat the "JLA Big 4"!! "Zomgz no no no never! Not my beloved Superman." Thanos is such a pimp that fukka wasn't even down for the count. That muthafukka was on the verge of a counter, but had to be removed by a group of cosmic powerhouses that even included The Stranger. Come on dude? Seriously. How's that for a writer trying to convey an average showing for Thanos? Funny thing was you consider this low. Lulzworthy I think. 😆

Read above... Let it sink in. Let go of the hate. It can only consume you.
Ure going to lose this argument. You know that don't you? I don't want to have to skewl you on this too. In fact I'm done. I gather it would be like tying to ram into a brick wall.

👆