JLA Big 4 vs Thanos

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's unclear whether Thanos has been returned to classic levels or not, cause ya know, this is bendis writing it. That pretty much speaks for itself and what he does to characters.

your point is fair enough. i suppose i was speaking more of what i HOPE will be the case. he was (still is) a classic villain. i liked him at his classic levels. years ago (before i joined kmc) he was perhaps my FAVOURITE villain. he was simply a cosmic level doom. i'd love to see his MIND become his greatest weapon again. for a while now, i think his POWER was at least an equally great weapon.....

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's unclear whether Thanos has been returned to classic levels or not, cause ya know, this is bendis writing it. That pretty much speaks for itself and what he does to characters.

I like how the Bendis argument floats when it's Thanos' ass getting railed.

Thor on the other hand, he's out of luck 🙂

It must be nice to always say ITS A CLONE, or to turn to the old depowered crap, or to just throw out all logic and retconn everything.

I'd also like to see Thanos stay at this level, it's about like his "classic" level and I think what the character should be - very powerful but not ridiculously so. He was never a particularly deep or multifaceted character, but his earlier appearances were more interesting and less repetitive. I actually used to own almost all of his appearances up to around Infinity Crusade.

But who wants to read about some guy who can't die becoming god over and over then losing it over and over through various stupid means, or hatching simplistic plots while everyone else has to act dumb just to make them seem clever? And only in a Thanos story could you end up with street levelers like Shang-Chi and Captain America floating in space fighting Thanos with the omnipotent power of god. Terrible stuff.

Frankly having Thanos beaten by the Avengers was the best thing for the character since he was outwitted by Lockjaw and the Pet Avengers.

Keep him as more of the planetary level cosmic threat based on the resources and knowledge at his disposal.

Originally posted by basilisk
I'd also like to see Thanos stay at this level, it's about like his "classic" level and I think what the character should be - very powerful but not ridiculously so. He was never a particularly deep or multifaceted character, but his earlier appearances were more interesting and less repetitive. I actually used to own almost all of his appearances up to around Infinity Crusade.

But who wants to read about some guy who can't die becoming god over and over then losing it over and over through various stupid means, or hatching simplistic plots while everyone else has to act dumb just to make them seem clever? And only in a Thanos story could you end up with street levelers like Shang-Chi and Captain America floating in space fighting Thanos with the omnipotent power of god. Terrible stuff.

Frankly having Thanos beaten by the Avengers was the best thing for the character since he was outwitted by Lockjaw and the Pet Avengers.

Keep him as more of the planetary level cosmic threat based on the resources and knowledge at his disposal.


Don't forget black cat, she was there too IIRC. That was starlin at his finest.

Thanos wins.

Originally posted by Philosophía
It's from Avengers Assemble #8 from a few months ago. Here are all the scans:


Thanos is such a 'pimp muthafukka'.

Do we need to post scans of Superman being owned easily with a team at his side as well ? Do I need to post scans of Superman being unable to defeat Orion under his own power one on one ? Do I need to post scans of him beating a peer to captain Marvel time and time again just one on one. Three super teams were unable to defeat Thanos despite him being weakened.

Originally posted by Philosophía
It's from Avengers Assemble #8 from a few months ago. Here are all the scans:


Thanos is such a 'pimp muthafukka'.

So, this is what the Groot fans have been going on about? Understandable. 😛

He is Groot.

uhuh

Originally posted by basilisk
I'd also like to see Thanos stay at this level, it's about like his "classic" level and I think what the character should be - very powerful but not ridiculously so. He was never a particularly deep or multifaceted character, but his earlier appearances were more interesting and less repetitive. I actually used to own almost all of his appearances up to around Infinity Crusade.

But who wants to read about some guy who can't die becoming god over and over then losing it over and over through various stupid means, or hatching simplistic plots while everyone else has to act dumb just to make them seem clever? And only in a Thanos story could you end up with street levelers like Shang-Chi and Captain America floating in space fighting Thanos with the omnipotent power of god. Terrible stuff.

Frankly having Thanos beaten by the Avengers was the best thing for the character since he was outwitted by Lockjaw and the Pet Avengers.

Keep him as more of the planetary level cosmic threat based on the resources and knowledge at his disposal.

egg-zactly. 👆

Originally posted by Philosophía
The only one looking stupid here, is you. Captain Marvel was amped only after Shadwpact and the others arrived there; before that point he was going toe to toe with Spectre, under his own power:


I've already addressed that with earlier posts. Your original statement of "extended beating" was simply not the case since he was already receiving an amp by the time the extended beating or horrendous beating as someone already so eloquently put was happening. As stated on panel by Blue Devil, he only survived the beating due to the amp.
Originally posted by Philosophía
It isn't supposed to intimidate, since I'm not threatening to find you in real life and beat the shit out of you. Unless you find somebody on the internet telling you to stop trolling and needlessly insult him as intimidating.
I like how u changed ure tone. I get it. I've seen ure posts, it's your mo. Lemme refresh ure short term memory. "Do this again, and it will end badly for you. You've already lost my repect, and you don't want to lose my patience." I mean come on... Really? Ok there tough guy. 😂

Originally posted by Philosophía
Phew, you almost scared me with that 'almost fell off my seat when I first saw this' part. Be careful there lad, I wouldn't want you to hit your head on something and lose IQ points. Every last one of them is of great importance.
There you go.. I see ure gettin it.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Being able to beat a herald in a conventional fight = / = being able to take four of the top ones in a forum fight. And not all 'heralds' bring the same thing to the table.

Your 'generalization' is hilarious. Even moreso, when I'm the only one who brought up a showing of Thanos fighting multiple heralds [well, like, 2 and some low hearlds/metas], and it ended with him getting his ass plowed.

Still you continue to dismiss his normal portrayals. Plus ure hate is showing again. You continue to dismiss "Marvel" characters as fodder. At least hide the pom poms.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You are unable to provide a showing to demonstrate your case. And that's perfectly fine [well, fine in the sense that you are wrong and can't demonstrate otherwise, but shouldn't take it personally]

U haven't..

Originally posted by Philosophía
Before I start addressing those and adding some much needed context to each of them, tell me, do you have a preference for who you would like me to show you as surpassing them: Darkseid or Superman?

Or would you like me to do it for both? 🙂


Please do.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Dmillanosi, calm down. You seem to have built up some considerable hate for me in just a few posts. What happened to this being just comics and you having fun? You're just ruining my mood.

Ok ok.. I gotta give it up for that Dmillanosi comment.. That was pretty good. And I am having fun. This beats all the other threads that are so full of camaraderie and bromancing.
Originally posted by Philosophía
There was only an off-hand statement from Tony, saying that he is not sure Thanos is in control of the cube, and that he may have 'done some damage' to himself mistaking it for the real thing. That's not only not definitive, but 'done some damage' is vague in itself, since the context itself [they were talking about Thanos not being in control of himself or the cube] lends to the idea that it's not physical in nature [at that moment, Thanos was physically comic sized].

And yet the writer dedicated a good chunk of the book for it. Enough to let the reader know and have he/she prepared for the Titan's eventual downfall. Pretty important part of the story don't you think?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Saying it was a 'small army of heroes' doesn't change the fact that, if Thanos is as powerful as you make it out to be (able to take the four heralds in this thread), he'd have beaten them. 90% of them were completely shit.
Wait so your Big 4 can take down this group? That what ure saying? Looks like it is... I'm pretty confident most won't agree. I could be wrong because I can't stop rabid fanboyism.. 😉

Originally posted by Philosophía
You're hilariously masking your inapt point by making a large list that anyone can see through as "wall of text that doesn't say anything", which includes the likes of Luke Age, Giant Man, War Machine, Vision tec. Are they a threat to Thanos, too?]

That's just it. That's the point. I'm not masking anything. In comics, heroes go up against all odds. Pruneface is that big a deal that they will pull heralds, metas, even streets in hopes of stopping him. Streets know they have no chance of beating him, but they do it anyway because they are heroes. The writer clearly conveyed how big a deal he is.
Originally posted by Philosophía

😂

Yeah, Thanos would have obviously gotten up and kicked their asses.

That pimp muthafukka was taking his time, as the others were taking turns making fun of him.

I don't consider this 'low'. I consider this a pretty accurate presentation of how Thanos performs against such a group that is more powerful than a simple high-herald. Of course, I could go on about the attacks that affected and ultimately took him down [Thing punching him, Captain America throwing his shield etc.] and then make it a low showing.

You ram yourself into brick walls? That explains quite a bit, then.

And yet he goes on to say "You think me defeated? You only give me focus. And my cause is to take this planet..." Also what haters seem to always leave out is the fact the heroes had an ace up their sleave. The only reason why they were talking so confident about beating Thanos, is because they brought in the big guns. They knew they had him beat the moment they made a deal with the elders of the univers. I mean come on, you'd sound pretty confident if you had a group of cosmic power houses that included the like of The Stranger annd The In-Betweener fighting on your behalf. So in the end, u chose the wrong showing for ure argument, because it doesn't help your case when you believe it takes Avengers, GotG, F4, The Stranger, In-Betweener, and others just to take down Thanos. Facts are facts. Try again. And yes.. He is a pimp muthaffuka..

Bendis Thanos was a Thanosi.

Fact.

You'll all see when any other writer (hopefully Starlin) gets him under their pen. You'll see!

Low showing, PIS etc. or not, the mad Titan was clearly beaten at that point. Him puffing his chest doesn't make a lick of difference. If he was capable of mounting an efficient defense or counter attack, he wouldn't have been a glorified punching bag.

Agreed.

So the elders, who usually lose to the avengers where helping. AND the Inbetweener, or would they have just stepped in? Cause if they didnt help with the fight, then why does it matter if they were an ace up the sleeve? If they were not in the fight then they dont really matter.

Agreed x 2.

First it was Bendis... Second it was some kinda PIS.. Third... why are people forgetting that a genius deduced that Thanos weakened himself by using a fake cube. Why the above is not being factored in is beyond me. To say nothing of this isn't his average portrayal.. not by a long shot... so why are we using one showing and throwing out all of his past showings as meaningless and this is THE showing to use. What a complete load of dog crap.

Alot of the past is also bull. Odin vs Thanos? Odin wasnt going all out. Tyrant vs Thanos. Thanos was using an orb. Surfer vs Thanos. WHy hasnt Surfer ever just opened a black hole on his ass? Hasnt Thanos almost died from a black hole? Maybe the older showings have all been PIS?

Originally posted by ThereIsHope
Alot of the past is also bull. Odin vs Thanos? Odin wasnt going all out. Tyrant vs Thanos. Thanos was using an orb. Surfer vs Thanos. WHy hasnt Surfer ever just opened a black hole on his ass? Hasnt Thanos almost died from a black hole? Maybe the older showings have all been PIS?
Every showing is PIS except the one that goes against everything in his previous history.

You're some kind of smart, I tells ya.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do we need to post scans of Superman being owned easily with a team at his side as well ? Do I need to post scans of Superman being unable to defeat Orion under his own power one on one ? Do I need to post scans of him beating a peer to captain Marvel time and time again just one on one. Three super teams were unable to defeat Thanos despite him being weakened.

Like these? 😉