Worldbreaker Hulk vs Team Thor

Originally posted by carver9
The moon's are damaged as shown on panel.

The moon's are no where to be found after the destruction.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk8.jpg

Don't think you looked at the comic hard enough. Second. How does that ft belong to Betty when she was wished to be Hulks equal? Third. You are clearly missing the point...you can split that ft in half and it would still be devastating because of the length and what Hulk accomplished unless you can show me something on panel with two skyfather level beings punching each other causing near the destruction the Hulks caused.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hercules should have called Hank Pym instead of Eternity and the Tribunal for help; a few Pym Particles to shrink Chaos King down to human form, and Captain America could have soloed him. Because apparently size is a key component in the power of Abstract beings.

Pym already got owned by Eternity.He'd be useless against Eternity's dark half Chaos King 🙄

Besides, size doesn't matter to abstracts.Its like saying Death the size of an ant will get squished by Amadeus Cho.Because Death's size was reduced, her powers were also reduced in the process because Amadeus used Pym particles in their fight😄

Originally posted by The Sorrow
@Rage
Jeezus talking about missing the point (even though I spelled it out clearly for you). The ONLY stage during that massive end brawl Thor was able to have any kind of affect on the CK was at that moment, in a co-ordinated attack AFTER Herc did his thing. Hell in the very scan you posted you have Amadeus shouting to Herc "Bring him down here!" before Herc slammed him back to Earth. It's really not that hard to comprehend if you read Chaos War #5.

Lulz do you think giant Zeus is easier or harder to defeat than if he were typical size? Hulk? Mangog? Galactus? Celestials? Size isn't an indication of power but it's going to at least make an opponent more formidable in most cases. That should be obvious.

No.

What exactly have I lowballed? That Daiman and Thor were able to affect Chaos King after Hercs gave them the opening? You mean despite the comic showing that happening? Smh.. My ONLY gripe has been that certain posters champion this feat as more than it is and ignore the context behind it.

Yes, I get it, you think Thor's feat is somehow less impressive and perhaps only possible because Hercules knocked Chaos King down to Earth. And yes, I still think you're reasoning is completely retarded. It's also not in anyway supported by the comic. Nothing has changed.

Size can have influence at times, but not only is that usually very directly pointed out, history has consistently shown us that Abstract beings have no direct correlation with power/size. Chaos King could be the size of a man, and if Thor was to strike him then and illicit a response, the feat would be no less impressive. Get that shit through your head. Also, post a scan where it says Chaos King was "shrunk or whatever. Because Amadeus asking Hercules to bring him down, is not in anyway proof of that.

You've been working very hard to find any excuse to demean the feat. At one point you even tried to write it off as Thor being a central character just getting his due, as if that somehow changes anything.

if you could combine all of the team members into one being to combat hulk then id say hulk gets roasted. But by themselves as individuals. Half of them wont even effect hulk. Not this version of hulk anyhow.

Originally posted by zeel
if you could combine all of the team members into one being to combat hulk then id say hulk gets roasted. But by themselves as individuals. Half of them wont even effect hulk. Not this version of hulk anyhow.

Agreed.

Thor affecting the chaos king is pis plain and simple. There's no way around that. No herald should be able to affect an elder god, never mind a being thousands of times more powerful than an elder god. If Spider-Man had made rune king Thor notice him thor fans would be crying "pis". The chaos king feat is a non issue as far as I'm concerned.

I'm shocked.

At least he's honest about it. Just call it PIS and be done with it, instead of straw gasping for excuses. Just wastes time.

Frankly I think the whole if chaos war was riddled with pis. Why Hercules would need to recruit the likes of the silver surfer, Thor and sersi is beyond comprehension. Even recruiting Odin (if he had been around) would have been preposterous. I agree that based on the on panel evidence though Thor did affect him, but it's a worthless feat as I'm concerned. Pak had no idea how to write a story involving characters of that power level.

You either don't get it or you need to read Chaos War #5 again brah. You even posted it in your own scans.

Hercules and Chaos King where the same size, several times larger than Earth. Right before the fight CK was crushing planets in the palms of his hands.

Even here they're described as a "bazillion foot tall" and are causing destruction on Earth with indirect blows:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5689315/Chaos_War_5_005-06.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5689318/Chaos_War_5_010.jpg.html

But growing to this size has no effect in a battle amirite? Thor and the rest of the heroes may aswell have been ants compared him at that point and could do nothing. Once Cho figures out the plan he tells Herc to bring him to Earth and for the heroes to attack:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5689321/Chaos_War_5_014.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5689335/Chaos_War_5_015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5689336/Chaos_War_5_016.jpg.html

Cho clearly tells Herc to bring CK down to Earth, a couple of panels later we CLEARLY see this happening with Chaos King crashing to the ground (noticeably smaller in size) and all of a sudden the heroes are a threat to him. Wether Herc weakened him specifically isn't the point, whatever he did allowed Thor & co the chance to make a difference and that fits with Chos words, what happened on-panel and the context. All thats needed is some common sense.

Your reasoning means we disregard that whole scene which is retarded and was a critical turning point in the book. Even the actual feat itself has Daiman attacking alongside Thor:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5689336/Chaos_War_5_016.jpg.html

Not sure if you were purposefully being stubborn or why you think that is such a high-end feat given the context. Chaos War was a shitty arc that i'm pretty sure was retconned into being a sliver of Oblivion - just to emphasise how ultimately the scan is pretty meaningless in a vs fight.

herc is seriously underestimated being placed here with this rabble

Originally posted by zeel
if you could combine all of the team members into one being to combat hulk then id say hulk gets roasted. But by themselves as individuals. Half of them wont even effect hulk. Not this version of hulk anyhow.

that doesn't really make any sense

Thor use Godblast. Fight Ends.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Thor use Godblast. Fight Ends.

Just know that said force/energy was over a million times greater than disintegrating countless peers of Savage Hulk.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove that Godblast>>>>>energy and force WBH tanked when colliding with Betty.

Just know that said force/energy was over a million times greater than disintegrating countless peers of Savage Hulk.

There is no reason to think Hulk would even have a chance in this battle, regardless of what happened in another dimension while being influenced by a "wish machine".

Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to prove that Hulk energy is greater than the godblast. Quit assuming it was.

The Godblast can't disintegrate hundreds of peers of Hulk at the same time and it certainly can't provide an output more than a million times that of disintegrating hundreds of peers of Savage Hulk at the same time.

Originally posted by Horrificus
There is no reason to think Hulk would even have a chance in this battle, regardless of what happened in another dimension while being influenced by a "wish machine".

Originally posted by h1a8
WBH would kill or ko just about all the team with one simple thunderclap. If two or three remain then they would be in a very rocked or damaged state. WBH can finish them off with another thunderclap. This fight is easy.