Originally posted by Mindset
Look at the definition of undead for me.You'll see how I am right and your point was moot.
Originally posted by Mindset
And both are dead.
Dead things are D E A D.
If you dig up Gwen Stacey's corpse, can you have a conversation with it about how it's day was? If you stab it in the chest, around where it's heart should be, will it die? If you expose it to sunlight, will it burst into flames while screaming in pain? Does it need a daily infusion of blood to keep it sentient? Can it take a stroll with you through the park (under it's own power)?
No right? That's because ITS DEAD. Undead are not dead. They are UN-DEAD.
Originally posted by zopzop👆
Absolutely false. Dead things don't speak, reason, hunger, feel, MOVE, lust, etc... (like vampires and other undead do).Dead things are D E A D.
If you dig up Gwen Stacey's corpse, can you have a conversation with it about how it's day was? If you stab it in the chest, around where it's heart should be, will it die? If you expose it to sunlight, will it burst into flames while screaming in pain? Does it need a daily infusion of blood to keep it sentient? Can it take a stroll with you through the park (under it's own power)?
No right? That's because ITS DEAD. Undead are not dead. They are UN-DEAD.
Originally posted by quanchi112Undead is a category of dead. I never said they were interchangeable. If you are undead you are dead, but if you're dead you're not necessarily undead.
Undead does not mean dead. It's hilarious that you think the definitions are interchangeable.
Dont get all upset because the only thing Thanos can do in this fight is file sexual assault charges.
Originally posted by zopzopLet me know when you look up the definition and are ready to apologize.
Absolutely false. Dead things don't speak, reason, hunger, feel, MOVE, lust, etc... (like vampires and other undead do).Dead things are D E A D.
If you dig up Gwen Stacey's corpse, can you have a conversation with it about how it's day was? If you stab it in the chest, around where it's heart should be, will it die? If you expose it to sunlight, will it burst into flames while screaming in pain? Does it need a daily infusion of blood to keep it sentient? Can it take a stroll with you through the park (under it's own power)?
No right? That's because ITS DEAD. Undead are not dead. They are UN-DEAD.
Originally posted by MindsetNo, look them up. They don't mean the same thing. Undead is not dead. Zop was accurate. The definition cites vampires just like his reasoning. He's right.
Undead is a category of dead. I never said they were interchangeable. If you are undead you are dead, but if you're dead you're not necessarily undead.Dont get all upset because the only thing Thanos can do in this fight is file sexual assault charges.
Originally posted by Mindset
Undead is a category of dead. I never said they there interchangeable. If you are undead you are dead, but if you're dead you're not necessarily undead.
Notice how she's not moving, breathing, speaking, emoting, etc...
Undead :
Notice how he's speaking, moving, emoting, is self-aware, etc..
There IS a difference. Undead are not dead. Otherwise they wouldn't fear sunlight, stakes through the heart, headshots, etc... because when that happens, they DIE.
Dont get all upset because the only thing Thanos can do in this fight is file sexual assault charges.
Originally posted by Mindset
The definition also cites zombies.You both can send your apologies to my inbox.
Originally posted by leonidas
to mindset's point--the undead are ALSO called the walking dead, time and time again. what about the black lanterns? are they dead, or undead? dead in the sense that they are NOT alive, is not much of a stretch imo... thought the whole discussion is kind of amusing.....
Originally posted by MindsetUndead and dead are too completely different definitions.
That post was for Quan.If something is undead, than it is dead.
Case closed.
Originally posted by MindsetCompletely different from what we are addressing. If something is undead it can still move. If it's dead it can't. Pretty simple.
A labrador is a dog.A dog is not necessarily a labrador.
Something undead is dead.
Something dead is not necessarily undead.
Get a dictionary. I don't have time to teach the meaning of words and tell Quan what happened in the Preacher comics.
I know way more than you do about Preacher comics.
Originally posted by Mindset
A labrador is a dog.A dog is not necessarily a labrador.
Something undead is dead.
Something dead is not necessarily undead.
Get a dictionary. I don't have time to teach the meaning of words and tell Quan what happened in the Preacher comics.
Most UNDEAD DO ALL of those things. They obviously CANNOT be dead. Otherwise how do you explain the fact that vampires DIE when exposed to sunlight or are staked through the heart? How do you explain why zombies DIE when shot in the head? Because they aren't dead. They are undead. Hence why a whole new word is used to describe them.
Labradors are dogs and a dog isn't necessarily a Lab but BOTH dogs and labs have the same features that qualifies them as dogs. Your undead/dead example is like saying dogs are cats because both of them have fur, four legs, and a tail.
Undead are not dead and the dead aren't undead because despite superficial appearances they are NOTHING alike.
Originally posted by quanchi112At least you admitted that I'm teaching you about the Preacher comics, that's a start.
Undead and dead are too completely different definitions. Completely different from what we are addressing. If something is undead it can still move. If it's dead it can't. Pretty simple.
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Originally posted by MindsetThanos would rip this redneck limb from limb. He needs to get over his crappy wife.
Also, let's not let Quan try to divert our attention from the fact SOK goes balls deep in Thanos.
Originally posted by MindsetYou know better than that.
At least you admitted that I'm teaching you about the Preacher comics, that's a start.👆
Originally posted by zopzopThey don't die, their bodies are destroyed or the power that animated their already dead bodies is extinguished.
Not the same thing at all. The dead are just that.........dead. They don't move, sleep, feel pain, emote, aren't self-aware, etc..Most UNDEAD DO ALL of those things. They obviously CANNOT be dead. Otherwise how do you explain the fact that vampires DIE when exposed to sunlight or are staked through the heart? How do you explain why zombies DIE when shot in the head? Because they aren't dead. They are undead. Hence why a whole new word is used to describe them.
Labradors are dogs and a dog isn't necessarily a Lab but BOTH dogs and labs have the same features that qualifies them as dogs. Your undead/dead example is like saying dogs are cats because both of them have fur, four legs, and a tail.
Undead are not dead and the dead aren't undead because despite superficial appearances they are NOTHING alike.