You know the more I think about this, the more I think Zop could be right. I mean what did Satan do in the preacher universe besides throw FBombs? He couldn't break SOK's will even before he became SOK. I mean he allowed hell to freeze over by a common human soul and couldn't do anything about it. Satan was supposedly 2nd or 3rd most powerful being after God and maybe Genesis but couldn't break SOK when he had his soul.
Originally posted by Diesldude
You know the more I think about this, the more I think Zop could be right. I mean what did Satan do in the preacher universe besides throw FBombs? He couldn't break SOK's will even before he became SOK. I mean he allowed hell to freeze over by a common human soul and couldn't do anything about it. Satan was supposedly 2nd or 3rd most powerful being after God and maybe Genesis but couldn't break SOK when he had his soul.
Now compare him to the "Satan" SoK's killed. No contest.
First of all. That logic is worthless. The satan from the preacherveres is not a clone of any satan. He is THEE satan.
Secondly WHy do you keep making silly and worthless comparisons. Death is one of the major entities of the MU, yet she has been pawned by the champions of the universe. By your logic she is weaker then Thanos.
SOK wins. End of story.
The story had no need for super nova's and crap of that sort, so why did you even make the comparison between SOK, the angels and high level heralds?
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
First of all. That logic is worthless. The satan from the preacherveres is not a clone of any satan. He is THEE satan.
Secondly WHy do you keep making silly and worthless comparisons. Death is one of the major entities of the MU, yet she has been pawned by the champions of the universe. By your logic she is weaker then Thanos.SOK wins. End of story.
The story had no need for super nova's and crap of that sort, so why did you even make the comparison between SOK, the angels and high level heralds?
SoK's does not win. And supernovas and other "crap" are just feats that were thrown around by me. The more important thig is, Thanos has ACTUAL FIGHTS against more powerful foes than SoK"s killed (Silver Surfer, the Avengers, DP Tyrant, Odin, Maker, etc...).
Uh huh so you want a guy who is fighting a cowboy to do super nova's and crap? Ok cool man, leep talking nonsense.
Anyway I ment to say Elders of the Universe. The Grandmaster punked Death. So yeah according to your logic Death is a sissy, and Thanos is stronger.
Your logic doesnt work here. Preacher was not a comic in a cosmic setting. The main character was human but could tell you what to do. That was his main power. There was no starships. black holes, flying, super nova's etc. Thus why would the SOK be tanking high level heralds, where you expecting Superman, or Silver Surfer to say hey Jesse take a seat for a second Ill handle this guy.
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
Uh huh so you want a guy who is fighting a cowboy to do super nova's and crap? Ok cool man, leep talking nonsense.
Anyway I ment to say Elders of the Universe. The Grandmaster punked Death. So yeah according to your logic Death is a sissy, and Thanos is stronger.
Anyway, losing a bet against an immortal being that has dedicated his BILLIONS of years of existence to mastering gambling and games of chance, is LESS humiliating then being outsmarted by an idiot redneck.
Your logic doesnt work here. Preacher was not a comic in a cosmic setting. The main character was human but could tell you what to do. That was his main power. There was no starships. black holes, flying, super nova's etc. Thus why would the SOK be tanking high level heralds, where you expecting Superman, or Silver Surfer to say hey Jesse take a seat for a second Ill handle this guy.
LOL first of all. Just cause SOK was put into a comic you dont seem to like, doesnt take away from the fact that he's indestructable and kills anyone and anything. Pointless logic by you.
My point is that if he runs into Thanos, Thanos dies.
So Death has to be making silly bets, and abhere to bets? Ok cool, Death doesnt look stupid.
Thanos is put in the same situations also, He fights certain people and gets arrested by the cops, then he fights Torzan and gets tossed into a volcano. The occasion sadly calls for it. SOK fights some loser cowboy and he never really lost, he did achieve he goal.
What have you proven? That SOK killed satan, the host of angels, and god? Ok, thank you for proven that SOK never died, never got hurt, and only was defeated by the power of god. THANK YOU.
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
LOL first of all. Just cause SOK was put into a comic you dont seem to like, doesnt take away from the fact that he's indestructable and kills anyone and anything. Pointless logic by you.My point is that if he runs into Thanos, Thanos dies.
So Death has to be making silly bets, and abhere to bets? Ok cool, Death doesnt look stupid.
If SoK runs into Thanos, SoK dies.
Preacherverse God is silly enough to create a being potentially as powerful as himself, inflict untold calamities upon his creation all because he's a crazy attention whore, and by ensuring the SoK's creation essentially engineers his own demise. Preacherverse God is the very definition of stupid.
Once again, I have stated that SOK is not part of MU how does he die?
I dont like Thanos? Is that why I own, Thanos The End, Thanos 1-12, Annihilaton, have read Thanos Imperative, Infinity Gauntlet, Yeah I hate him.
Do we really have to get into a god who is a crazy attention whore? The MU is full of crazy freaky creatures who the LT doesnt even deal with. Countless lives that are whiped out mercilessly. Thus whats the point of calling the preacherverse god a crazy attention whore, TOAA basicaly sits on his butt most of the time while the univeres is in chaos in MU. If he does it on purpose, or lets it happen is a problem of philosophy and not really to be talked about in a comic book debate.
As for creating a being as powerful as himself. TOAA did the same thing in Thanos The End. There are also artifacts that dont have to be THOTU that are potentially leathal to the well being of the universe if not the multiverse such as the Infinity Gauntlet and the Star Band. There are even beings and mutants that are potential threats to the well being of the multiverse such as Scarlet Witch and The Pheonix.
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
Once again, I have stated that SOK is not part of MU how does he die?I dont like Thanos? Is that why I own, Thanos The End, Thanos 1-12, Annihilaton, have read Thanos Imperative, Infinity Gauntlet, Yeah I hate him.
Do we really have to get into a god who is a crazy attention whore? The MU is full of crazy freaky creatures who the LT doesnt even deal with. Countless lives that are whiped out mercilessly. Thus whats the point of calling the preacherverse god a crazy attention whore, TOAA basicaly sits on his butt most of the time while the univeres is in chaos in MU. If he does it on purpose, or lets it happen is a problem of philosophy and not really to be talked about in a comic book debate.
As for creating a being as powerful as himself. TOAA did the same thing in Thanos The End. There are also artifacts that dont have to be THOTU that are potentially leathal to the well being of the universe if not the multiverse such as the Infinity Gauntlet and the Star Band. There are even beings and mutants that are potential threats to the well being of the multiverse such as Scarlet Witch and The Pheonix.
Then don't presume that others don't like the Preacher series of comics.
The LT has a specific function, and so far it has always played its part as when it was required to in a story. LT isn't the supreme being of Marvel's actuality, so that comparison is invalid. TOAA is the writer. It's a wholly different concept as compared to a RL-based theological deity like the Preacherverse God. All throughout a story's progression, TOAA is the one who dictates it and crafts it.
Again, invalid comparison. TOAA used Thanos as a tool to fix a flaw which for some unknown reason he didn't decide to fix himself. TOAA tricked Thanos, and this goes to show that he merely views Thanos as an instrument that can be used and discarded when necessary. Preacherverse God on the other hand created a being supposedly as powerful as himself just so it could love him. He was deranged freak with an obsessive compulsive disorder focued around making people "love" him by putting them in the weirdest and often times quite tragic scenarios that always resulted in misery for his creations.
The IG and the Starbrand have nothing to do with this thread. Another pointless tangent.
Phoenix is not a mutant(and has never been a multiversal threat either), and the Scarlet Witch, barring her amp during HoM, has never been even a galactic scale threat, let alone universal/multiversal. None of that is relevant to the debate. You have quite the penchant for going off on irrelevant tangents.
You brought up the whole Preacherverse god being an attention whore and crap. So i brought up TOAA, allowing the IG, and the Star Band running around. Dont get your panties tangled in a bunch. The preacherverse god being an attention whore has nothing to do with anything. SO why even bring it up then get mad when someone else brings up the LT when he does nothing? Yes he has a specific fucntion. If I watch an entire universe dieing which he did during the IG and do nothing well I think thats pretty douchy. So TOAA is a douch, and preacherverse god is an attention whore. Great, nobody cares.
Are you saying that the cancerverse were not written by marvel writers, and part of marvel comics? They were, and thus part of the MU. Thank you.
Yup TOAA used, Thanos to fix a flaw, cause TOAA ccouldnt fix it himself, more douchy actions. So what? Nothing to do with anything. Stop getting off topic then getting angry when someone points out the flaw in your own logic.
As for my logic sucking balls. My logic isnt the one making gagging noises if you get my meaning.
You brought up the whole Death being stupid for losing a bet against a being who's dedicated billions of years to games of chance, so I replied in kind. You go off on irrelevant tangents about LT, TOAA, IG etc. etc. to try and save yourself from yourself. Believe me, the boot is surely not on your foot as you've presumed throughout this thread.
I am saying that the Cancerverse is not part of the Marvel Universe. That much is an established canon fact. Learn to read.
I actually lol at the fact that you think you're pointing out flaws in others' logic. You're the one who goes into nonsensical off-tangents about Mistress Death being weak and stupid, and then when given a taste of your own medicine, you get all b1tchy. You're the one who defeats his own arguments when you admit to zopzop that nothing in the Preacherverse operated anywhere close to Cosmic Marvel's level.
That was merely Thanos presuming TOAA couldn't fix it himself. TOAA taught Thanos a lesson about himself and why he's ultimately undeserving of grand power, and he got the point across.
Your logic sure is stinking up this thread with pointless trollery and butthurt. I am beginning to suspect a sock account in you. You sure do smell a lot like that TheMask character, except you're definitely less insane than he was.
So you want to ignore on-panel evidence? What proof do you have that the Cancerverse is part of Earth-616?
Thanos wins based on superior feats, his status as the avatar of death and his hax-like powers derived from said status which would prove super-effective against an unkillable like SoK. I love trouncing trolls like you.
Originally posted by ThereIsHopeThat's irrelevant to this discussion. Thanos has been proven to be immune to death and Sok has been ineffective against a vampire. Thanos' feats are far more impressive and Sok is from a much weaker universe if you look at this from a feat perspective. The characters Saint killed weren't that impressive imo.
THey go through it? Dumb ass.Does he know what?
Yup I do actually. You are just such a simpleton who thinks that Thanos can beat anyone. You already have claimed that Thanos can beat Lucifer Morningstar, and Death. You are obviously a sad silly moron.
Originally posted by quanchi112Cassidy and Thanos have literally nothing in common.
That's irrelevant to this discussion. Thanos has been proven to be immune to death and Sok has been ineffective against a vampire. Thanos' feats are far more impressive and Sok is from a much weaker universe if you look at this from a feat perspective. The characters Saint killed weren't that impressive imo.
Cassidy couldn't be killed because he was already dead. Now, whether SOK's guns work on Thanos or not I don't care to argue, but it can't be proven with what happened to Cassidy.