Saint Of Killers VS Thanos

Started by zopzop38 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm just telling you what the comic said, zop. Don't hate on me for citing canon info. 👆

Remember, though, there was some inconsistency here and there. SoK killed Satan, the Angel of Death, various demons, was unable to kill a vampire, then killed Genesis, all of Heaven's angels, then God. So yeah...


But he ONLY killed "God" because God was vulnerable by NOT being seated on his throne! This was on panel also.
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So unless Genesis had this weakness also, it CANNOT be equal to "God".

Originally posted by zopzop
So unless Genesis had this weakness also, it CANNOT be equal to "God".
It was equal to God, though. It's right there in black and white, zop.

Originally posted by zopzop
Why LOL? What has "biblical" Satan done to make you think he's so impressive?

And this has nothing to do with a "feat" war. Thanos has more impressive actual ON PANEL fights.

Again, who was the most impressive person SoK's beat that wasn't already weakened somehow?

did you really just ask me WHY i laughed when you made mention of looking for on-bible feats from satan......? 😂

and the definition of 'feats' is that they ARE on-panel--be they fights or feats of a different nature. so of course it is a feat war. galan (gracias partner) showed you genesis who was stated on panel as being god's equal. you don't want to accept it because it seems contrary to another of his showings, but......you can't simply disallow the one you don't like. and yes, we CAN have it both ways because....it's a comic, and they HAVE inconsistencies. or maybe they (the writers) originally thought he might/wanted him to kill god but later changed their minds? maybe we were supposed to understand more about his relationship to god? or maybe it was just a case of shoddy writing. either way, there IS on panel evidence to suggest he could kill someone of god's power. that you don't want to accept that is on you my friend. even without said evidence, i was of the opinion thanos dies strictly because sok was what he was.

Originally posted by leonidas
did you really just ask me WHY i laughed when you made mention of looking for on-bible feats from satan......? 😂

It's funny because "biblical" Satan isn't impressive at all.

and the definition of 'feats' is that they ARE on-panel--be they fights or feats of a different nature. so of course it is a feat war. galan (gracias partner) showed you genesis who was stated on panel as being god's equal. you don't want to accept it because it seems contrary to another of his showings, but......you can't simply disallow the one you don't like. and yes, we CAN have it both ways because....it's a comic, and they HAVE inconsistencies. or maybe they (the writers) originally thought he might/wanted him to kill god but later changed their minds? maybe we were supposed to understand more about his relationship to god? or maybe it was just a case of shoddy writing. either way, there IS on panel evidence to suggest he could kill someone of god's power. that you don't want to accept that is on you my friend. even without said evidence, i was of the opinion thanos dies strictly because sok was what he was.

No the on panel evidence is contradictory. He didn't kill "God", he killed a weakened/depowered "God". He himself stated his weapons wouldn't work if "God" was on his Throne and hence at full power. So if Genesis was really equal to "God", then SoK's couldn't have killed him UNLESS he had the EXACT same weakness "God" had (being depowered while not on his Throne).

He couldn't even kill a vampire.

Thanos wrecks SoK's 10/10.

Originally posted by Mindset
Well that would explain why you are his biggest fan.

mmm

I accept you, Quan.

😂

Originally posted by Galan007
It was equal to God, though. It's right there in black and white, zop.
IIRC, Preacher God fled his throne after Genesis came into being. Genesis agreed to die so that God would then return to his throne which allowed SOK to ambush him on his way. LOL pretty weak sauce. But this doesn't absolve the fact that SOK was able to kill Genesis.

IMO SOK took over the Angel of Death's station. God appointed the AOD who then switched places with SOK. God at full power on his throne had the power to remove SOk from this (AOD) station and make him powerless which would have allowed him to defeat SOK. But he need to get to his throne to do this. IMO SOK had the power to Kill preacher God even at full power because he killed his equal in Genesis.

SOK kills Thanos, because at the very least, SOK = Lady Death.

Yeah, I agree. Even if SOK was only able to kill GOD because he was weaker while not on his throne, Id still say a weakened GOD would be several times stronger than normal Thanos. No, I have no proof of this, though considering there are MANY beings stronger than Thanos in Marvel, and GOD is basically TOAA, Id say a lesser/weakened TOAA is still well above Thanos, hence SOK should be able to kill him as he did the Devil (who was IN HELL at the time) and a lesser GOD.

Frankly I'm amazed that people here are actually attempting to use 'Bible feats' to discredit comic book characters... It's truly unreal(in a funny/sad way.)

This might come as a surprise, but the Bible wasn't written to appease the 'feat mongers' of KMC. I know it may have been a more enjoyable read if they would've had Jesus busting planets and tanking black holes, but hey... You can't please everyone, I guess.

Originally posted by Galan007
Frankly I'm amazed that people here are actually attempting to use 'Bible feats' to discredit comic book characters... It's truly unreal(in a funny/sad way.)

I wasn't the one that said killing the "biblical" version of Satan was something to be impressed by. It isn't.......at all.

This might come as a surprise, but the Bible wasn't written to appease the 'feat mongers' of KMC. I know it may have been a more enjoyable read if they would've had Jesus busting planets and tanking black holes, but hey... You can't please everyone, I guess.

Thanos >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jesus. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by zopzop
I wasn't the one that said killing the "biblical" version of Satan was something to be impressed by. It isn't.......at all.
But you're [still] attempting to discredit Preacher-verse Satan by way of 'Bible feats'. I really don't think that was leo's intention.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jesus. 😮‍💨

Lol. Genesis was equal in power to God, without his throne weakness.

Captain Marvel is equal to superman,without his Kryptonite weakness.

How can this be difficult to grasp????

Also, with on panel feats, Batman defeats Galactus, who can't take a headbutt, yes?

zopzop did not bring up Biblical Satan, DTM did to support them, and zopzop countered by pointing out that even taking them into consideration, the Biblical rendition of Satan himself hasn't really done anything particularly impressive.

Read the whole thread retards.

It has been years since I read the series, but where does it say Genesis was equal to God? From someone who actually matters, that is.

Anyway, SOK could not kill God while he was on his throne.

When did the Saint kill Genesis? I recall him murdering Custer, but Genesis apparently was released(and lost) in the process which caused God to return to his throne only to find the SoK sitting on it.

Originally posted by zopzop

I wasn't the one that said killing the "biblical" version of Satan was something to be impressed by. It isn't.......at all.[/B]

honestly, of ALLLLLLL the things i've ever read in this forum, trying to use on-bible feats might be the most single hilarious thing i've ever heard of. maybe had grant morrison written the bible satan would be someone to be impressed by. oh well. LOL

Originally posted by Galan007
But you're [still] attempting to discredit Preacher-verse Satan by way of 'Bible feats'. I really don't think that was leo's intention.
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i'd like to think some things could go without saying. craziest stance i've ever seen taken.....imagine delving into the bible to look for feats to justify actions by comic characters, imagine the paths that particular line of thought could take. if you can't see the ridiculous, laugh out loud nature of that pov, i'm not sure what to do for you. could you imagine if a group of writers walked in and saw this thread? zop, i'm pretty sure they'd think you should be locked in a rubber room. no offense, honestly. i just find your stance.....utterly remarkable. trying to use the specific details of 2000yr old texts to discredit a comic book character, is not something you see every day.......

anyway, fun discussion.

Originally posted by leonidas
this is entirely a case of writer intent. common sense dictates that feats really have to be thrown in this type of match..... given what he [sok] was intended to be, i'd say sok could certainly kill thanos. [/B]

Originally posted by zopzop
this has nothing to do with a "feat" war.

Thanos has more impressive actual ON PANEL fights.

What has "biblical" Satan done to make you think he's so impressive?

Again, who was the most impressive person SoK's beat that wasn't already weakened somehow?

Originally posted by leonidas
did you really just ask me WHY i laughed when you made mention of looking for on-bible feats from satan......? [/B]
Originally posted by leonidas
this is entirely a case of writer intent. common sense dictates that feats really have to be thrown in this type of match..... given what he [sok] was intended to be, i'd say sok could certainly kill thanos. [/B]

Originally posted by zopzop

It's funny because "biblical" Satan isn't impressive at all.. [i.e., has no feats....][/B]

Originally posted by leonidas
this is entirely a case of writer intent. common sense dictates that feats really have to be thrown in this type of match..... given what he [sok] was intended to be, i'd say sok could certainly kill thanos. [/B]

you'll likely disagree zop, but, if you can't look back at that little bit of preciousness and laugh, i got nothing. 😂

Originally posted by leonidas
honestly, of ALLLLLLL the things i've ever read in this forum, trying to use on-bible feats might be the most single hilarious thing i've ever heard of. maybe had grant morrison written the bible satan would be someone to be impressed by. oh well. LOL

i'd like to think some things could go without saying. craziest stance i've ever seen taken.....imagine delving into the bible to look for feats to justify actions by comic characters, imagine the paths that particular line of thought could take. if you can't see the ridiculous, laugh out loud nature of that pov, i'm not sure what to do for you. could you imagine if a group of writers walked in and saw this thread? zop, i'm pretty sure they'd think you should be locked in a rubber room. no offense, honestly. i just find your stance.....utterly remarkable. trying to use the specific details of 2000yr old texts to discredit a comic book character, is not something you see every day.......

anyway, fun discussion.

Originally posted by leonidas
you'll likely disagree zop, but, if you can't look back at that little bit of preciousness and laugh, i got nothing. 😂

Originally posted by NemeBro
zopzop did not bring up Biblical Satan, DTM did to support them, and zopzop countered by pointing out that even taking them into consideration, the Biblical rendition of Satan himself hasn't really done anything particularly impressive.

Read the whole thread retards.


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which.......doesn't change the fact that you were asking me what made satan so impressive vis-a-vis the bible and asking what feats both satan and sok performed that makes one think he could kill thanos after i expressly stated i don't think feats have any bearing in this particular thread. (which is why i simply ignored neme's antagonistic post which really had no bearing at all on what you and i were initially discussing.....)

anywho, you seem pretty entrenched in your opinion (not that it was really my intent to try and change it) so.....whatever.

Originally posted by leonidas
which.......doesn't change the fact that you were asking me what made satan so impressive vis-a-vis the bible and asking what feats both satan and sok performed that makes one think he could kill thanos after i expressly stated i don't think feats have any bearing in this particular thread. (which is why i simply ignored neme's antagonistic post which really had no bearing at all on what you and i were initially discussing.....)

anywho, you seem pretty entrenched in your opinion (not that it was really my intent to try and change it) so.....whatever.


Neme's post wasn't antagonistic, it's just Neme being Neme. It's like saying Horrificus is insane because of his taste in comic characters (***cough Quasar cough******), it's not that Horrificus is insane, he just has crummy taste in characters 😛

But yeah, SoK's Satan AND 'biblical' Satan aren't impressive in the least. I was just nipping that line of reasoning in the bud. I didn't bring it up.

I see where the pro SoK's side is coming from, I'm just trying to say the TDF have good reason to believe that Thanos could crush SoK.

Does it really matter if SOK didnt kill god on his throne? Thanos isnt equal to god last time I checked.