Muslim Country Checklist

wow...so if i spot you a $20 do i own a percentage of you?

Originally posted by Bardock42
The concept is ill defined, so no.

oh he was supposed to say an "islamic theocracy". 🙄

Originally posted by roughrider
After watching Zero Dark Thirty, I think it would be informative to make some lists of Muslim societies, and how they relate to the west. See how they stand.

1. Stable, moderate country that is friendly to the west.
2. Ally of the west, but is on shaky ground with strained relations.
3. Openly hostile to the west, looking for war at any moment.

I know the popular saying: Radical Muslims make up less that 0.01% of the Muslim population, but the get 99% of the world's headlines. But if too many are in one country, well...

For me, stable Muslim countries include Turkey, Morocco, Kuwait, Jordan, United Arab Emirates...am I missing anyone?

The Muslims were a thousand times more terrorized and exploited by UBL than the Americans. Pakistan's alliances and Saudi Arabia's allignment don't mean anything but that they are a troubled nation. We've done our best to help them help themselves, and that is a very good thing.

Originally posted by roughrider
What, you mean like Iran? They fit the description of what I wrote above your post.

not in the least...

They are neither seeking war with America or unstable. In fact, any instability in the nation comes from the crippling sanctions imposed by America and the West rather than religious extremism.

Iran is unstable in the same way Idle No More threatens the stability of Canada

Originally posted by roughrider
Or if you are talking about Saudi Arabia...who knows how different the relationship would be if the Saudis didn't have all that oil and(literally) own 4% of the USA.

sure, any number of things could be true in a fictional universe you are inventing...

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
For the most part I agree. I would definitly say Iran has made statements (wiping out Israel) that could qualify it as not sane

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That identifies him as a troll, not a crazy. A couple of statements made here and there, a few (admittibly anti-semitic)demonstrations made here and there don't decide a nation's sanity as a whole.

True but given he is the President of the country (even if he is not it's ultimate power) means his words carry serious weight. Most of the US general population was against the invasion of Iraq but it happened anyway. History proves that when national leaders threaten violent actions we should take them at their word. My feelings are that if Iran had the bomb it would use it. Afertall, just look at who us controlling and funding Hezbollah.

Time for some drone strikes!

what are drone strikes?

Originally posted by Oliver North
what are drone strikes?

When you hit most worker bees with a newspaper!

I'm glad I don't live in any of them (lack of freedom of speech in those)

I, for one, applaud the initiative to catalogue and judge nations as good, bad and crazy based on their attitude toward the USA government.

It was quit interesting, thanks for sharing this. It really helpful for me..

Originally posted by Dolos
The Muslims were a thousand times more terrorized and exploited by UBL than the Americans. Pakistan's alliances and Saudi Arabia's allignment don't mean anything but that they are a troubled nation. We've done our best to help them help themselves, and that is a very good thing.

Pakistan is troubled by regional instabilities such as Afghanistan and Kashmir. In addition, sanctions from USA didn't helped the situation.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Saudi Arabia is stable; among the most stable countries in the world.

no

Originally posted by Oliver North
no

Originally posted by 753
I, for one, applaud the initiative to catalogue and judge nations as good, bad and crazy based on their attitude toward the USA government.

Originally posted by Oliver North
no

It is fairly stable. I'm having difficulty thinking of anything that points to significant instability that exceeds that of the UK or the US. Day of Rage was quickly squelched. The King is well liked...

Unemployment is on the rise, I hear. Is that what you're talking about?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Enlighten me...

It is certainly more stable than some of its neighbours

in the world? no, not even close

Kuwait, Jordan, Israel and potentially even Iran, off the top of my head, are more stable. The Shia majority Eastern provinces see very frequent anti-government protests, and the issue is more that the state is still powerful enough to crush these demonstrations than there is a real sense of stability.

Outside of the region, Saudi Arabia is far less stable than the vast majority of Asia, Europe and North or South America. Remove American support for the regime and it falls within a few years.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It is fairly stable. I'm having difficulty thinking of anything that points to significant instability that exceeds that of the UK or the US. Day of Rage was quickly squelched. The King is well liked...

Unemployment is on the rise, I hear. Is that what you're talking about?

frequent Shia demonstrations in the oil rich Eastern provinces, the untenable relationship with extremist groups, etc.

you are grossly misguided if you think they are as stable as America...

Originally posted by Oliver North
...you are grossly misguided if you think they are as stable as America...

Actually, it is much worse than you think: I almost directly stated that Saudi Arabia appears to be even more stable than the US and the UK.