Fate(Jared Stevens) vs. Black Alice

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Fate(Jared Stevens) vs. Black Alice

Fate is immune to all magics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fate_%28comics%29

Alice can absorb all magics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Alice_%28comics%29

Fight takes place in the Oblivion Bar:

(assume the 2 combatants are the only people in the Bar.)

For the purposes of this match, Alice cannot summon the magics from any character(s) outside of the Bar.

Who wins?

Jared shanks the emo-gothic biatch.

Do you think Alice would be able to copy Fate's abilities? If she did, she would gain his weaponry/skills by default, leaving Jared essentially powerless.

Reminder: while Alice has copied Spectre's magics, Fate has demonstrated immunity to Nekron's magics... So imo, it's hard to say what'd happen one way or the other.

Galan starting a thread!? 😱

And when is Fate immune to Nekron?

Re: Fate(Jared Stevens) vs. Black Alice

Originally posted by Galan007
Fate is immune to all magics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fate_%28comics%29

Alice can absorb all magics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Alice_%28comics%29

Fight takes place in the Oblivion Bar:

(assume the 2 combatants are the only people in the Bar.)

For the purposes of this match, Alice cannot summon the magics from any character(s) outside of the Bar.

Who wins?

look at you starting a thread! lol

i actually liked fate as a character quite a bit. a nice parting of ways with the more classic version of dr fate. not sure what would happen here tbh. i'm guessing fate would gut her, but...i'm guessing that her magic could keep her from being killed by him. arion alone is a monster. is deadman's power considered magic? probably. guess.....stalemate? unless alice simply amps her strength and beats him down physically? hrm.

Originally posted by leonidas
look at you starting a thread! lol

i actually liked fate as a character quite a bit. a nice parting of ways with the more classic version of dr fate. not sure what would happen here tbh. i'm guessing fate would gut her, but...i'm guessing that her magic could keep her from being killed by him. arion alone is a monster. is deadman's power considered magic? probably. guess.....stalemate? unless alice simply amps her strength and beats him down physically? hrm.

Yeah, it doesn't happen much these days. 😛

This match intrigues me... It reminds me of the unstoppable force meets an immovable object paradox (although I think a winner here can certainly be found.)

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, it doesn't happen much these days. 😛

This match intrigues me... It reminds me of the unstoppable force meets an immovable object paradox (although I think a winner here can certainly be found.)

maybe a winner CAN be found. but it'll take someone smarter than me to find one. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Do you think Alice would be able to copy Fate's abilities? If she did, she would gain his weaponry/skills by default, leaving Jared essentially powerless.

Difficult to say. As is the helm resisted Alice, than you factor in Jared anti magic shenanigance. In the end, we know that he was taken out by Mordru stabbing him with his own weapon (Mordru who also happens to be excellent at siphoning magic).

I can only conclude, that if not completely immune to Black Alice. Than at the least he would be heavily resistant, and giving him an advantage to physically maul her down, unless she finally taps into his energies, or he directs energy at her like a dumbass.

Originally posted by Galan007
Fate has demonstrated immunity to Nekron's magics...
Originally posted by Golgo13
And when is Fate immune to Nekron?

Da Phuck?! When did this happen on panel?!

Originally posted by zopzop
Da Phuck?! When did this happen on panel?!

Scans 1-2 have Fate forcibly overpowering Nekron and pushing him back through the rift. Scan 3 has Nekron's powers being rendered ineffectual against Fate. 😎

Originally posted by Galan007

Scans 1-2 have Fate forcibly overpowering Nekron and pushing him back through the rift. Scan 3 has Nekron's powers being rendered ineffectual against Fate. 😎


Where is this from? And why does Fate look like some cheesy 90s character?

Originally posted by zopzop
Where is this from?

And why does Fate look like some cheesy 90s character?

Fate #13.

Because he was a cheesy 90s character. none

So then Fate wins IMHO. Think about it. She can't do anything to him BUT what's stopping him from just walking up to her and punching her lights out? Or putting her in a choke hold and putting her ass to sleep?

Originally posted by zopzop
So then Fate wins IMHO. Think about it. She can't do anything to him BUT what's stopping him from just walking up to her and punching her lights out? Or putting her in a choke hold and putting her ass to sleep?
That's the thing though: WHY can't she do anything to him? Alice had no problem absorbing Spectre's magics, after all.

I don't know much about jared, but it looks like he wins here. Although alice was trained by BoP and is a good h2h combatant while jared was killed by his own knife. Alice's powers are pretty much deus ex against magical beings though. Nekron isn't a magical being though, is he?

Originally posted by Galan007
That's the thing though: WHY can't she do anything to him? Alice had no problem absorbing Spectre's magics, after all.

Because Spectre is all over the place power level wise? And if he's really immune to all magic.......

I just see their two abilities causing them to stalemate from a power only perspective. Then that leaves a grown man vs a teenage girl. Not looking good for the teenage girl.

Originally posted by zopzop
Because Spectre is all over the place power level wise? And if he's really immune to all magic.......

I just see their two abilities causing them to stalemate from a power only perspective. Then that leaves a grown man vs a teenage girl. Not looking good for the teenage girl.

IF she can absorb his abilities, she'd gain his immunity to magic, and, most importantly, his magical weaponry/skills.

IF she cannot absorb his magics, then ya, she's phucked. However, even though Fate's magical immunity is haxxed beyond belief, so are Alice's absorption abilities... So it's hard to say what'd happen.

Originally posted by Galan007
IF she can absorb his abilities, she'd gain his immunity to magic, and, most importantly, his magical weaponry/skills.

IF she cannot absorb his magics, then ya, she's phucked. However, even though Fate's magical immunity is haxxed beyond belief, so are Alice's absorption abilities... So it's hard to say what'd happen.


Exactly. A lot of "IFs" because we don't know the limit (if any) to either of their powers.

I'll give you this though, nice find on this version of Fate. I didn't even know he existed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nekron isn't a magical being though, is he?
Fate is immune to magic, and Nekron's powers had no effect on him. Based on that, I can only assume Nekron is a magical/mystical entity.

Additionally, given that the 5th dimension, The Green, The Grey, The Red, and even Hell are considered magical realms, it seems logical to assume that both Nekron and his realm would also fall under the magical umbrella of Sorcerers' World:

srug

Originally posted by zopzop
I'll give you this though, nice find on this version of Fate. I didn't even know he existed.
A while back I was going to make a respect thread for him, but never got around to it. Suffice to say: the Nekron feat is just the tip of the iceberg.

Originally posted by Galan007
Fate is immune to magic, and Nekron's powers had no effect on him. Based on that, I can only assume Nekron is a magical/mystical entity.

Additionally, given that the 5th dimension, The Green, The Grey, The Red, and even Hell are considered magical realms, it seems logical to assume that both Nekron and his realm would also fall under the magical umbrella of Sorcerers' World:

srug

A while back I was going to make a respect thread for him, but never got around to it. Suffice to say: the Nekron feat is just the tip of the iceberg.


That's sketchy at best IMO. Nekron is never presented as a magical being be it against CA, GL or WW. To assume nekron is magical by Fate's immunity of magic is like putting the horse before the cart. Couldn't it be that Fate survived against Nekron due to being you know Dr. phucking Fate? I don't know much about Jared though as I admitted.