Battle of Willpower

Started by Silent Master5 pages

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
To be fair, maybe those were the only choices available. The wizards only shit out like ten new kids a year. And there WAS a curse put on the Defense position by Voldemort so each instructor will only last one year.

But I do agree that DD isn't the brightest wizard I've seen on screen. I think of him like an idiot savant, like the guy in Rain Man.

That's another thing, if the DADA teaching position is cursed you stop teaching that class.

Just create a dueling class and make care of magical creatures a mandatory class.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This from the guy who thinks the bad wins at the ends of these movies. You need to get out and watch a movie from time to time. Voldemort was a genius but no matter what will lose at the end. In these epic fantasy films which reach their conclusion this is always the case.

Specify what makes him a genius. He's inferred to be one, sure, but these informed attributes are coming from the same guys who can't even pronounce words like "electricity".

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Not only that, but Voldemort could have just shot him. 😉

I love the HP series in general, it's what got me into fantasy, but what annoys me so much about the series is how the wizards think their SOOOO above muggles that won't even try and use our weapons. It's like that scene from Buffy where she kills a demon with a rocket launcher. The Ministry of Magic would probably shit their pants if they ever saw what a modern military looks like.

Did you see what the Deatheaters did to the bridge ? Yeah, the muggles would get annihilated by the wizards. They can shapeshift, teleport, etc. It'd be a massive stomp. They wouldn't know what the hell was going on.

You're like that guy in the audience who screams don't go into that room in a scary flick. That's what happens just like the good guys win in these films. Complain all you want we as the audience(well me since you obviously still don't get it) knows how it is going to play out in the end.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That's another thing, if the DADA teaching position is cursed you stop teaching that class.

Just create a dueling class and make care of magical creatures a mandatory class.

Good idea.

Maybe magic makes you dumb.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Specify what makes him a genius. He's inferred to be one, sure, but these informed attributes are coming from the same guys who can't even pronounce words like "electricity".
Becoming the greatest/darkest wizard in a world of wizards. Amassing a following which threatens not only the wizarding world but the entire world. Figuring out a way to cheat death. Evading and then destroying the Ministry of Magic. These aren't things dumbasses could pull off. Give me a few examples of someone evil in a fantasy/sci fi film that's a genius.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Good idea.

Maybe magic makes you dumb.

IIRC didn't Tom find out that horcruxes exist from the Hogwarts Library and then went to a teacher to get more info?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Did you see what the Deatheaters did to the bridge ? Yeah, the muggles would get annihilated by the wizards. They can shapeshift, teleport, etc. It'd be a massive stomp. They wouldn't know what the hell was going on.

You're like that guy in the audience who screams don't go into that room in a scary flick. That's what happens just like the good guys win in these films. Complain all you want we as the audience(well me since you obviously still don't get it) knows how it is going to play out in the end.

😱 Yeah, when I saw that scene, I was like "WTF? That never happened in the book."

Wizards have a lot of advantages over muggles, but they also suffer from a crippling superiority complex. Never, in any of the movies do we see anyone carrying a gun(Mr. Dursley doesn't count since he's as big a retard as the wizards are). In fact, in the book at least, they're referred to as just metal wands. Wizards have no effing clue what they are or what muggles can do. When they try to do their little duels, they all get massacred by machine gun fire. Thread/

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
😱 Yeah, when I saw that scene, I was like "WTF? That never happened in the book."

Wizards have a lot of advantages over muggles, but they also suffer from a crippling superiority complex. Never, in any of the movies do we see anyone carrying a gun(Mr. Dursley doesn't count since he's as big a retard as the wizards are). In fact, in the book at least, they're referred to as just metal wands. Wizards have no effing clue what they are or what muggles can do. When they try to do their little duels, they all get massacred by machine gun fire. Thread/

They wouldn't just line up and take on jets and what not. They'd take over by controlling figureheads and letting loose chaos. There would be no way the muggles could even find them. It'd be hilarious to see them assault the regular world.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Becoming the greatest/darkest wizard in a world of wizards. Amassing a following which threatens not only the wizarding world but the entire world. Figuring out a way to cheat death. Evading and then destroying the Ministry of Magic. These aren't things dumbasses could pull off. Give me a few examples of someone evil in a fantasy/sci fi film that's a genius.

Palpatine from Star Wars(not counting ROTJ).

Ozymandias from Watchmen, if that counts as sci-fi.

David Xanatos from Gargoyles.

Khan from Star Trek.

Dr Doom from Fantastic Four.

Lex Luthor from Superman.

Light from Death Note(not a film, but still...)

Originally posted by Silent Master
IIRC didn't Tom find out that horcruxes exist from the Hogwarts Library and then went to a teacher to get more info?

Yeah, I think so. I know he went to the professor, but he first heard about them from someplace else. Books about Horcruxes are supposed to be blacklisted from the Hogwarts Library, but maybe that only happened after Voldemort rose to power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They wouldn't just line up and take on jets and what not. They'd take over by controlling figureheads and letting loose chaos. There would be no way the muggles could even find them. It'd be hilarious to see them assault the regular world.

They effing duel in the movie, dude. They think guns are metal wands. Their superiority complex wouldn't allow them to do it any other way.

I'm with you on the fact that HP magic and it's potential is some siriusly(😛) scary power. But that power is only useful in a smart persons hands. Most wizards and witches in HP are complete tards. Face it.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Yeah, I think so. I know he went to the professor, but he first heard about them from someplace else. Books about Horcruxes are supposed to be blacklisted from the Hogwarts Library, but maybe that only happened after Voldemort rose to power.

Come to think of it, seeing as he was raised in an orphanage, the only place he could have come across the term was in Hogwarts. seeing as he made his first one while a student. I'd say that keeping books with that kind of info in a school full of children is a rather moronic thing to do.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Come to think of it, seeing as he was raised in an orphanage, the only place he could have come across the term was in Hogwarts. seeing as he made his first one while a student. I'd say that keeping books with that kind of info in a school full of children is a rather moronic thing to do.

It takes a lot to make Xavier's School For Gifted Youngsters to look like the safer, more secure school, but Hogwarts manages to do it. 😛

If I were a wizard, I wouldn't want to go there. Maybe visit, since it's a gorgeous castle in Scotland, but learn there? No way. I'll take my chances at home, thanks.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
It takes a lot to make Xavier's School For Gifted Youngsters to look like the safer, more secure school, but Hogwarts manages to do it. 😛

If I were a wizard, I wouldn't want to go there. Maybe visit, since it's a gorgeous castle in Scotland, but learn there? No way. I'll take my chances at home, thanks.

The books make a few references about Beauxbatons having some male students, I'd rather go there.

I'd much rather hang around students like Fleur everyday than have to deal with the yearly plans of Tom and his minions

Gotta go with Palpatine, he kept himself in check and control for years and years will he schemed, plotted and played people. Also, you know he wanted to man-love all over Anakin, but he controlled himself.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Palpatine from Star Wars(not counting ROTJ).

Ozymandias from Watchmen, if that counts as sci-fi.

David Xanatos from Gargoyles.

Khan from Star Trek.

Dr Doom from Fantastic Four.

Lex Luthor from Superman.

Light from Death Note(not a film, but still...)

Palpatine made many critical errors ie. outed himself to Anakin as the sith lord which almost got him killed. Windu beat him. He also made a critical error when he was vulnerable for an attack from Yoda. What killed him was the worst. He really didn't foresee betrayal by the emotional whackjob Anakin while he was busy trying to murder his son.

I am not going after the others since they aren't in this thread. But come on Palpatine he was lucky to have survived.

Palpatine for the win imo.

Obviously Green Lantern. Silly question.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IIRC didn't Tom find out that horcruxes exist from the Hogwarts Library and then went to a teacher to get more info?

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Yeah, I think so. I know he went to the professor, but he first heard about them from someplace else. Books about Horcruxes are supposed to be blacklisted from the Hogwarts Library, but maybe that only happened after Voldemort rose to power.

He read up all the relevant information regarding horcruxes from a book from the Restricted section of the library. Dumbledore later retrieved that book and kept it in his office, until Hermione stole it in order to learn more about what they were up against.

The only reason he went to Professor Slughorn was to clarify whether it was possible to make more than one horcrux or not, because that particular bit of info wasn't something he could find in the book.

Thanks for the confirmation.