Battle of Willpower

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
They effing duel in the movie, dude. They think guns are metal wands. Their superiority complex wouldn't allow them to do it any other way.

I'm with you on the fact that HP magic and it's potential is some siriusly(😛) scary power. But that power is only useful in a smart persons hands. Most wizards and witches in HP are complete tards. Face it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Gotta go with Palpatine, he kept himself in check and control for years and years will he schemed, plotted and played people. Also, you know he wanted to man-love all over Anakin, but he controlled himself.

What does him begging for his life half to do with his thread? Lost. Anyway I'm gonna have to say viktor.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they aren't. UIf they were tards the regular world would go after them. They don't. The wizards wreck the bridge but does anyone from the muggle world come a looking.

That's not how JKR wrote the story. Harry Potter wasn't about wizards vs muggles, it was just about wizards and their little insular society. They're good at hiding and have a memory erasure spell. So what? They still make frequent retarded decisions in every movie/book.

While the bridge scene is impressive, it won't mean jack when they're shot out of the air.

No. He begged for his own life.

It's called acting. Palpatine was acting.

It was acting so obvious, if it fooled you than you must think Tommy Wiseau is a modern day Laurence Olivier.

Originally posted by wallman77
What does him begging for his life half to do with his thread? Lost. Anyway I'm gonna have to say viktor.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
That's not how JKR wrote the story. Harry Potter wasn't about wizards vs muggles, it was just about wizards and their little insular society. They're good at hiding and have a memory erasure spell. So what? They still make frequent retarded decisions in every movie/book.

While the bridge scene is impressive, it won't mean jack when they're shot out of the air.

It's called acting. Palpatine was acting.

It was acting so obvious, if it fooled you than you must think Tommy Wiseau is a modern day Laurence Olivier.

Retarded is outing yourself and then being destroyed in combat by Windu.

Retarded is being the master of the galaxy and leaving yourself open to an attack from one of two remaining jedi.

It's called begging. He was clearly begging for his life because he didn't want to die.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't the book versions it's the movie versions. So quit bringing up the book versions since you're clearly confused about how the versus section actually does.

Retarded is outing yourself and then being destroyed in combat by Windu.

Retarded is being the master of the galaxy and leaving yourself open to an attack from one of two remaining jedi.

It's called begging. He was clearly begging for his life because he didn't want to die.

The books and the movies are, with a few exceptions, the exact same thing. But what does that have to do with my post? I was saying that there are no muggles who show up in HP except for Harry's relatives. There's no wizard vs muggle battle that ever takes place, so your precious Death Eaters have no feats.

Palpatine wasn't destroyed in combat. 🙄 That's just plain wrong. You watched the movie wrong. He was acting.

And even if he was(he wasn't), it still beats getting killed by a kid like Voldemort was.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
The books and the movies are, with a few exceptions, the exact same thing. But what does that have to do with my post? I was saying that there are no muggles who show up in HP except for Harry's relatives. There's no wizard vs muggle battle that ever takes place, so your precious Death Eaters have no feats.

The death Eaters from the books have feats, not in abundance but they have some. Harry mentions them in the fifth book.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
The books and the movies are, with a few exceptions, the exact same thing. But what does that have to do with my post? I was saying that there are no muggles who show up in HP except for Harry's relatives. There's no wizard vs muggle battle that ever takes place, so your precious Death Eaters have no feats.

Palpatine wasn't destroyed in combat. 🙄 That's just plain wrong. You watched the movie wrong. He was acting.

And even if he was(he wasn't), it still beats getting killed by a kid like Voldemort was.

You're ignoring the context behind his defeat. It's dishonest and you won't get away with it.

Getting tossed down a shaft some old dying Vader is pathetic. Begging for his life shows to me a lack of willpower.

The only things Wizards have going for them is magic(which nothing to sneeze at, mind you, but it's the only thing they have). Do you know why they have to hide instead of ruling us out in the open? Because we outnumber them. By a big f.ucking margin. An enormous margin, really. They are illiterate in everything that doesn't have to do with magic. If the magical economy worked with the muggle economy, the entire Wizarding World would be owned by a hedge fund manager in a week. Nobody apparently studies science, engineering, construction, philosophy, or anything really that doesn't involve practical uses of magic or keeping magic hidden from muggles. Hogwarts is essentially a trade school. They can't even pronounce ****ing words correctly that aren't in their immediate lexicon. They get scared of one f.ucking guy that goes on a killing spree to the point that they can't speak his name without s.hitting their pants. People were terrified of Osama Bin Laden or Hitler when they were alive, but weren't afraid of their names as if names have some intrinsic magical properties. They don't use any sort of tactics and have no cohesion when they are fighting. They get impressed that things like cars exist, and that they can run without magic. Hogwarts has been broken into multiple times, and no responsible parent would let their kids study there. In other words, except for Hermione(and Dumbledore), they're all effing stupid.

No, you are. ROTS was all about Palpatine's scheme coming into fruition. Do you really think that after decades of planning, he'd risk losing in a lightsaber fight? I know that book material doesn't count here in the Movie Versus Forum, but the novelization of ROTS(which was heavily influenced by the script) makes very clear that Palpatine is a superior Force user than every single Jedi except for Anakin Skywalker(Palps is even higher up the Force chain than Yoda is). It's also made clear than Palpatine was only pretending to lose to Mace Windu in order to trick Anakin into thinking the Jedi were trying to overthrow the Republic and make themselves the new ruling body. He was acting. Get over it. If you can't accept that, you're wrong.

Vader was dying? No he wasn't. You're confused. He was dying AFTER he dropped Palps down the shaft, when Palps fried him with Force Lightenng and f.ucked up Vader's life support armor.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
The only things Wizards have going for them is magic(which nothing to sneeze at, mind you, but it's the only thing they have). Do you know why they have to hide instead of ruling us out in the open? Because we outnumber them. By a big f.ucking margin. An enormous margin, really. They are illiterate in everything that doesn't have to do with magic. If the magical economy worked with the muggle economy, the entire Wizarding World would be owned by a hedge fund manager in a week. Nobody apparently studies science, engineering, construction, philosophy, or anything really that doesn't involve practical uses of magic or keeping magic hidden from muggles. Hogwarts is essentially a trade school. They can't even pronounce ****ing words correctly that aren't in their immediate lexicon. They get scared of one f.ucking guy that goes on a killing spree to the point that they can't speak his name without s.hitting their pants. People were terrified of Osama Bin Laden or Hitler when they were alive, but weren't afraid of their names as if names have some intrinsic magical properties. They don't use any sort of tactics and have no cohesion when they are fighting. They get impressed that things like cars exist, and that they can run without magic. Hogwarts has been broken into multiple times, and no responsible parent would let their kids study there. In other words, except for Hermione(and Dumbledore), they're all effing stupid.

No, you are. ROTS was all about Palpatine's scheme coming into fruition. Do you really think that after decades of planning, he'd risk losing in a lightsaber fight? I know that book material doesn't count here in the Movie Versus Forum, but the novelization of ROTS(which was heavily influenced by the script) makes very clear that Palpatine is a superior Force user than every single Jedi except for Anakin Skywalker(Palps is even higher up the Force chain than Yoda is). It's also made clear than Palpatine was only pretending to lose to Mace Windu in order to trick Anakin into thinking the Jedi were trying to overthrow the Republic and make themselves the new ruling body. He was acting. Get over it. If you can't accept that, you're wrong.

Vader was dying? No he wasn't. You're confused. He was dying AFTER he dropped Palps down the shaft, when Palps fried him with Force Lightenng and f.ucked up Vader's life support armor.

Magic would own the muggles. They can take control of key government figures. They can teleport. They can create mass chaos. They can go to where only mages can follow. The muggles would be annihilated. They won't need to pay anyone to do their dirty work since magic easily solves their problems. Magic is might.

The books don't count. This is a movie forum. How dare you.

Vader was dying after the lightning hit him. He was already weak and was fatally wounded despite Luke shrugging off a prolonged exposure to the lightning.

Voldemort's willpower was unquestionably outmatched. We can't say the same for Palpatine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No. He begged for his own life.

And? It would take a tremendous amount of will power to scheme and plot for years and years when the prize was literally the galaxy. Which he took. No one else here comes close to that, let alone match it.

Get off Voldermort's dick already, I know he's your favorite, but he can't be the best at everything.

Originally posted by Robtard
And? It would take a tremendous amount of will power to scheme and plot for years and years when the prize was literally the galaxy. Which he took. No one else here comes close to that, let alone match it.

Get off Voldermort's dick already, I know he's your favorite, but he can't be the best at everything.

Scheming and plotting and tricking and playing on a level that took control of an entire galaxy. Sorry, your favorite's tiny little antics of "willpower" againt a handful of people, many of them children and.or teens are but a few grains of sand compared to Palpatine's beach.

Favorites don't always win. Condolences; I am certain you can make a match that Voldermort wins. Say Voldermort Vs Cyrano de Bergerac Vs Pinocchio: shortest nose contest

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is this rant of yours over yet ?

[B]Magic would own the muggles. They can take control of key government figures. They can teleport. They can create mass chaos. They can go to where only mages can follow. The muggles would be annihilated. They won't need to pay anyone to do their dirty work since magic easily solves their problems. Magic is might.

The books don't count. This is a movie forum. How dare you.

Vader was dying after the lightning hit him. He was already weak and was fatally wounded despite Luke shrugging off a prolonged exposure to the lightning.

Voldemort's willpower was unquestionably outmatched. We can't say the same for Palpatine. [/B]

Why do they hide?

A book working from the script, which IS canon.

Luke was being tortured, Vader got the insta-kill lightening.

Originally posted by Robtard
Scheming and plotting and tricking and playing on a level that took control of an entire galaxy. Sorry, your favorite's tiny little antics of "willpower" againt a handful of people, many of them children and.or teens are but a few grains of sand compared to Palpatine's beach.

Favorites don't always win. Condolences; I am certain you can make a match that Voldermort wins. Say Voldermort Vs Cyrano de Bergerac Vs Pinocchio: shortest nose contest

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Originally posted by Robtard
Scheming and plotting and tricking and playing on a level that took control of an entire galaxy. Sorry, your favorite's tiny little antics of "willpower" againt a handful of people, many of them children and.or teens are but a few grains of sand compared to Palpatine's beach.

Favorites don't always win. Condolences; I am certain you can make a match that Voldermort wins. Say Voldermort Vs Cyrano de Bergerac Vs Pinocchio: shortest nose contest

If you watch the Harry Potter films you'd realize it wasn't just a handful of people. Hundreds of mages all with the same abilities. Voldemort was such a galvanizing force amongst his peers a great portion of them were afraid to even mutter his name. This is a contrast to the secretive Palpatine. That was the only thing going for him was the facade.

Sheer force of will is undoubtedly Voldemort.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Why do they hide?

A book working from the script, which IS canon.

Luke was being tortured, Vader got the insta-kill lightening.

Vader didn't instantly die and when he took his mask off that also sped up the process. He was old, tired, and mentally weak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was a politician who knew what buttons to press and when to press them. He was always secretive and never publicly came out as the sith lord that he was. He's basically a politician's wet dream. That's all.

If you watch the Harry Potter films you'd realize it wasn't just a handful of people. Hundreds of mages all with the same abilities. Voldemort was such a galvanizing force amongst his peers a great portion of them were afraid to even mutter his name. This is a contrast to the secretive Palpatine. That was the only thing going for him was the facade.

Sheer force of will is undoubtedly Voldemort. The movies changed vital scenes. It isn't the same. You are really desperate. Sad.

He did come out to Anakin at precisely the right moment, in order to play him like a pawn. It was planned long before.

"Hundreds" is like a few grains of sand compared to the numbers Palpatine manipulated ie a galaxy full of people. Hahahahahaaaaa, towards the end of episode 3 his presence and influence galvanized a galactic Republic to submit to his will and cause; after Ep3, the whole of the galaxy was afraid of the Emperor. You just buried yourself trying to use those angles, you self defeatist.

LoL, no. Voldermort did nothing in comparison to Palpatine. Nothing. Which is what you have here trying to force a win for your favorite yet again. Nothing.

Originally posted by Robtard
He did come out to Anakin at precisely the right moment, in order to play him like a pawn. It was planned long before.

"Hundreds" is like a few grains of sand compared to the numbers Palpatine manipulated ie a galaxy full of people. Hahahahahaaaaa, towards the end of episode 3 his presence and influence galvanized a galactic Republic to submit to his will and cause; after Ep3, the whole of the galaxy was afraid of the Emperor. You just buried yourself trying to use those angles, you self defeatist.

LoL, no. Voldermort did nothing in comparison to Palpatine. Nothing. Which is what you have here trying to force a win for your favorite yet again. Nothing.

He was a politician. Of course he played the fools like a fiddle. He laid in wait like a coward. Voldemort made clear his intentions. Voldemort forced his will onto his peers. Palpatine cleverly had others destroy his jedi under false pretenses. That's called manipulation. He was scared of the jedi head on. He'd be scared of Voldemort as well he should.

He played most of the galaxy due to his cunning ways. After the jedi were basically wiped out only then did he display some of his real characteristics but by then he had too much political power. He hid behind this. Coward.

Voldemort didn't try running from Dumbledore. Palpatine initially tried to flee his confrontation with Yoda.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's called manipulation. It isn't willpower. He almost died. He was horrible scarred due to the incident as well.

He was a politician. Of course he played the fools like a fiddle. He laid in wait like a coward. Voldemort made clear his intentions. Voldemort forced his will onto his peers. Palpatine cleverly had others destroy his jedi under false pretenses. That's called manipulation. He was scared of the jedi head on. He'd be scared of Voldemort as well he should.

He played most of the galaxy due to his cunning ways. After the jedi were basically wiped out only then did he display some of his real characteristics but by then he had too much political power. He hid behind this. Coward.

Voldemort didn't try running from Dumbledore. Palpatine initially tried to flee his confrontation with Yoda.

It goes back to: "kept himself in check and control for years and years will he schemed, plotted and played people." So yes, it counts. Deal. As far as "almost died", Voldermort became disembodied and relied on others to bring him back. So that's another fail angle you've tried and it turned around to bite you on your twink ass.

LoL, Palpatine's plot was far more risky, it was galactic in scale. Voldermort didn't charge into Hogwarts solo blasting every wizards no more than Palpatine charged into the Jedi Temple solo. So once again, yet anther fail angle that betrays you.

You keep trying to use "show of power" as willpower. Stop.