Originally posted by KingD19Youre gonna need some feats to support that.
Everything he's done, Blade can replicate and surpass imo. All of Slade's impressive stuff is usually combat related.
That being said, I think Blade and Slade are pretty close in almost all categories. Id give slade the edge though. Some categories are arguable.
Originally posted by KingD19
Everything he's done, Blade can replicate and surpass imo. All of Slade's impressive stuff is usually combat related.
I think they are probably supposed to be close to equal in strength, but what I know is that Blade's feats are better... so what I think doesn't really matter. We debate here. If you can't prove something definitively... then it doesn't matter what any of us think. Slade is supposed to have super human strength, but all evidence of that strength is completely anecdotal, and anecdotal evidence is completely irrelevant in the face of real feats. Subby doesn't seem to understand any of this.
Originally posted by namorsubby
You guys are assuming that because it was a weak spot, that is was not missle proof there. Youre assuming this is what was implied. Your assumptions are worthless. Your assumptions don't superceed what is stated in text. If it says missle proof, you take it as missle proof. It having a weak spot doesn't mean it isnt. if it wasn't, it couldn't be called missle proof. I feel like I'm teaching special ed students.Slade kicked the door clean off while walking. Cap used his whole body weight, momentum, and shield. There is nothing you can say Srank. Youre slick talk is as see-through as you smart guy facade.
If the weak spot was missile proof... it wouldn't have been a weak spot... it would have just been a spot on the window. I'm not assuming anything, WE WERE DIRECTLY TOLD IT WAS F@CKING WEAK SPOT. Do you not know what the word weak means? The window broke because Slade hit a structural weak spot, his strength is completely irrelevant, it's spelled out for you in the f@cking issue. I assume your mom is writing your posts for you, because someone so stupid couldn't possibly know how to read or write, so ask her to read the dialogue to you while you stare at the pretty pictures.
If you run into a door and try to ram it, you are going to be stopped cold and hurt your shoulder. If you stand in front of a door and kick it, provided you know what you are doing, you'll kick the door open. Go try it. I'll wait for your results. facepalm
Originally posted by namorsubbyI agree with this. They are pretty comparable in most areas sans intellect which Slade has hands down and possibly healing.
Youre gonna need some feats to support that.That being said, I think Blade and Slade are pretty close in almost all categories. Id give slade the edge though. Some categories are arguable.
The ones who argue and dismiss anything placed in front of them are also the ones who never post feats. Smh
Slade has better strength feats IMO. Slade has certainly displayed superhuman strength in a comic. To suggest otherwise is utter stupidity, which is exactly what I expect from you Srank. Its LITERALLY stupid because I know you know better.
A human cannot rip the truck off a car underwater while drowning.
A human cannot kick off a reinforced steel door. Theyd break their leg
A human cannot pull a gorilla forward with one arm while it is attempting to hold its arm back with two. The gorilla would rip their arm off.
You are a damn fool.
Originally posted by namorsubby
The ones who argue and dismiss anything placed in front of them are also the ones who never post feats. SmhSlade has better strength feats IMO. Slade has certainly displayed superhuman strength in a comic. To suggest otherwise is utter stupidity, which is exactly what I expect from you Srank. Its LITERALLY stupid because I know you know better.
A human cannot rip the truck off a car underwater while drowning.
A human cannot kick off a reinforced steel door. Theyd break their leg
A human cannot pull a gorilla forward with one arm while it is attempting to hold its arm back with two. The gorilla would rip their arm off.
You are a damn fool.
I don't want to dismiss things, but you keep posting garbage and then lying about what is happening, and that needs to be addressed... over and over, ad nauseam because continue to bring up the same bs over and over again hoping that everyone forgot - for example - that a sarcophagus weights 230lbs.
Except humans can and do all of that in comics. We are comparing Slade to comic book humans, not real ones. If that was the criteria ever character would be superhuman.facepalm
So stupid.
Originally posted by srankmissingninIt was a weak spot. The glass was also missle proof. If it isnt completely, then it isnt at all. Theres no way to talk around that Srank. Let it go.
If the weak spot was missile proof... it wouldn't have been a weak spot... it would have just been a spot on the window. I'm not assuming anything, WE WERE DIRECTLY TOLD IT WAS F@CKING WEAK SPOT. Do you not know what the word weak means? The window broke because Slade hit a structural weak spot, his strength is completely irrelevant, it's spelled out for you in the f@cking issue. I assume your mom is writing your posts for you, because someone so stupid couldn't possibly know how to read or write, so ask her to read the dialogue to you while you stare at the pretty pictures.If you run into a door and try to ram it, you are going to be stopped cold and hurt your shoulder. If you stand in front of a door and kick it, provided you know what you are doing, you'll kick the door open. Go try it. I'll wait for your results. facepalm
Your arguement is essentially that the comic is wrong and youre right. It said missle proof, and you say not. It said weak spot, but YOU took it somewhere else by saying it was so weak that the spot was not missle proof. Which is the OPPOSITE if what it said. You do know what opposites are, right?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't want to dismiss things, but you keep posting garbage and then lying about what is happening, and that needs to be addressed... over and over, ad nauseam because continue to bring up the same bs over and over again hoping that everyone forgot - for example - that a sarcophagus weights 230lbs.Except humans can and do all of that in comics. We are comparing Slade to comic book humans, not real ones. If that was the criteria ever character would be superhuman.facepalm
So stupid.
Show comic humans doing all those things, NOW. No more talking, SHOW SOMETHING.
Batman did not rip a locked trunk completely off, he did open a locked one. Slades feat took much more strength, so don't even try that. its freakin batman anyway, easily low level super in strength according to feats......which is what I go by.
Originally posted by KingD19If that sheet of glass was not missle proof there then it was not missle proof.....which is what was stated in the comic. Idk how anyone could argue against that
A bulletproof vest can still be stabbed through. And a bullet can still penetrate it as well.And anyone who knew about that weak spot with decent strength could accomplish the same thing.
I bet Karnak could do it, and he has no enhanced strength whatsoever.
It was obviously a feat that took strength. I don't see how anyone would argue against that either. People with no superhuman strength cannot break missle proof glass.
Originally posted by namorsubby
If that sheet of glass was not missle proof there then it was not missle proof.....which is what was stated in the comic. Idk how anyone could argue against thatIt was obviously a feat that took strength. I don't see how anyone would argue against that either. People with no superhuman strength cannot break missle proof glass.
Aha, but that's where you're wrong. It was a weak point of such structural integrity, that all it took was a good smack to break it.
Karnak the Inhuman has no superhuman strength, but his ability to see weaknesses in anything is so great, he could have achieved the same thing. His feats prove this. And Karate Kid, a person with no superhuman strength has destroyed inertron by finding it's weak points. And it was stated to be missile proof, and it was, but a weak point is a weak point. A castle can be siege proof as well, but if there's a weak point in the walls to be exploited...well.
Originally posted by juggernaut74Id say all the door feats for Blade.
What is Blade and Slade's personel best strength feats in your opinions?
For Slade Id say the door, ripping off that locked trunk underwater, overpowering beast boy as a gorilla with one arm. Hes also made Diana, Donna Troy, and Lex in his power suit bleed
Originally posted by KingD19*sigh* What I'm trying to get you to understand is that you can't just say it wasn't missle proof there based off of Slade mentioning it had a weak spot. Your assumption cannot be taken as fact. If that glass couldn't withstand a missle, then it was not missle proof. This is undeniable.
Aha, but that's where you're wrong. It was a weak point of such structural integrity, that all it took was a good smack to break it.Karnak the Inhuman has no superhuman strength, but his ability to see weaknesses in anything is so great, he could have achieved the same thing. His feats prove this. And Karate Kid, a person with no superhuman strength has destroyed inertron by finding it's weak points. And it was stated to be missile proof, and it was, but a weak point is a weak point. A castle can be siege proof as well, but if there's a weak point in the walls to be exploited...well.
Lol, you really brought KK into this. He can do anything.
Originally posted by namorsubby
*sigh* What I'm trying to get you to understand is that you can't just say it wasn't missle proof there based off of Slade mentioning it had a weak spot. Your assumption cannot be taken as fact. If that glass couldn't withstand a missle, then it was not missle proof. This is undeniable.Lol, you really brought KK into this. He can do anything.
Nowhere did I say the glass wasn't missile proof. I'm saying even objects that are *subject x* proof, can still be structurally compromised or overcome in certain situations.
A bulletproof vest for example. A bullet can still go through a bulletproof vest. And while that glass was stated to be missile proof, there's no guarantee it could stand up to more than one or two. Similar to how bulletproof cars can get shot through after a barrage of bullets.
And what I'm saying is that it had a weak spot, that Slade found and exploited. Someone who could find that weakspot, Karate Kid for example(not even pre-crisis), or Karnak, or Gamora, who can all pinpoint weakspots. Could also exploit it and get the same result. If you put an X on the weakspot and gave any street leveler a bat or something and said smack it, they'd get similar results as well.
Originally posted by KingD19Hmm.....thats actually pretty reasonable. Eh
Nowhere did I say the glass wasn't missile proof. I'm saying even objects that are *subject x* proof, can still be structurally compromised or overcome in certain situations.A bulletproof vest for example. A bullet can still go through a bulletproof vest. And while that glass was stated to be missile proof, there's no guarantee it could stand up to more than one or two. Similar to how bulletproof cars can get shot through after a barrage of bullets.
And what I'm saying is that it had a weak spot, that Slade found and exploited. Someone who could find that weakspot, Karate Kid for example(not even pre-crisis), or Karnak, or Gamora, who can all pinpoint weakspots. Could also exploit it and get the same result. If you put an X on the weakspot and gave any street leveler a bat or something and said smack it, they'd get similar results as well.
They could IF they were strong enough. Idk their exact strengths. I'm just saying.
As far as what you were saying about Blade vs Slade, I don't agree. I think they are both closely match in almost all areas. Slade definitively takes it in Healing and intellect imo. I think Slade has better strength feats as well as a slight edge in the other categories. Strength is probably the most arguable.
I think Blade's highest strength feats outclass Slade's by enough that strength is in the Daywalker's favor.
He has some impressive speedblitzes and reaction times as well.
I never doubted Slade has better intellect, although I think Blade's highest healing feats are pretty impressive, but at the moment I can't recall them, so Slade takes that up until I can.
On the subject of the glass though, Karnak, Gamora, and KK all have some pretty damn impressive weak point exploitations under their belt. Like hurting super strong/durable opponents with precision strikes.