If it was indeed a Utopia in the strictest sense - which it would HAVE to be or else it shouldn't be labelled as a Utopia - I would do all the things that kept me and those around me happy and fulfilled. What would those things be? Impossible to know. Would I ever get bored and start a war or somesuch? Of course not. It's a Utopia. If I could get bored or harbor ill-will against those around me, it wouldn't be a Utopia. If there was something music-related that was considered Utopean, I'm sure I'd want to do that.
Originally posted by AmbientFire
If it was indeed a Utopia in the strictest sense - which it would HAVE to be or else it shouldn't be labelled as a Utopia - I would do all the things that kept me and those around me happy and fulfilled. What would those things be? Impossible to know. Would I ever get bored and start a war or somesuch? Of course not. It's a Utopia. [b]If I could get bored or harbor ill-will against those around me, it wouldn't be a Utopia. If there was something music-related that was considered Utopean, I'm sure I'd want to do that. [/B]
Somebody actually has an accurate definition of Utopia in this thread???
???
Or maybe they all did they were just arguing that technology can't make a Utopia.
But I mean, it comes pretty close:
Zero pollution, a non-toxic environment reducing epidemics like hypothyroidism or autism, zero disease, zero stress, zero labor, education, meaningful careers in science...giant nature-covered movie cinemas...perhaps even displaying full-immersion virtual reality....cinemas could also host multilayer full-immersion virtual reality GAMING.
Originally posted by movie1
a truly utopian society might be boring and could make you soft.
Not with perfect nutrition and weights that would be available. Actually you wouldn't be working more than 4 hours 4 days a week on things like interstellar space travel or developing mathematical theories; that gives you infinitely more time to develop your muscles with calisthenics on monkey bars or to blast the major muscle groups plyometric core lifts or chisel single groups with isometric isolation lifts with free weights. No pollution and super-nutrients and future supplements will do most the work to keep your cns, metabolism, immune system, pituitary glands and thyroid operating at optimum levels.
People today are stressed, obese, and have no free-time, that's why they're fat. And then there's all the toxin buildup in our bodies, imagine laborers in major cities, or people working in chemical plants or in factories or near landfills, getting saturated with chemicals while working crazy hours, missing their families and sleep while getting junk food from the local gas station. They're not soft, they're miserable.
Originally posted by Dolos
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Coming back to the thread topic, I'd publicly kill a little kitten, thereby sending society back into the disorder of an imperfect world.
@Mindset: If anyone's gonna be the chaos-bringer, it's gonna be me, not you.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That nanobot wallpaper is set as my desktop background, lol.Coming back to the thread topic, I'd publicly kill a little kitten, thereby sending society back into the disorder of an imperfect world.
@Mindset: If anyone's gonna be the chaos-bringer, it's gonna be me, not you.
Nanobots repair the damage to the cat and immobilize you before you can even terminate it...or your malicious behavior activates your own nanobots and you never get near the cat.
Instead, you are deported to America, which has a become a shit-hole Dystopia by now. America has, per GDP, become like the modern equivalent to a 3rd world country and Utopia is like a Type I Civilization, the modern equivalent to a first world country, one trillion times larger, wealthier and more impervious due to naval and sub-orbital safeguard battalions than America as a Global Super Power is today. All of your upgrades are removed from your body and you are lobotomized before being deported back the America. You are now a hopeless lifeless bum.
Bad choice I'd say. Imagine if you couldn't do shit, how powerless you'd be as a malevolent man in a Utopian Age? Wouldn't that suck for you?
Originally posted by Dolos
Ergo, your society descends into chaos irrespective of what you do to me after my beautifully scripted act of brutality.
I win.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It's not the act itself, rather the traumatizing psychological effects of the act on the lazy fatphuck population of the Utopia(child and adult alike) which fulfills my goal.Ergo, your society descends into chaos irrespective of what you do to me after my beautifully scripted act of brutality.
I win.
Your God-like ignorance must save you so much pain.
Allow me to inflict some;
1: I didn't do anything. This is everyone's Utopia, not mine.
2: You're implants stopped you before your body could act on the impulse to kill.
3: Our bodies are designed by us, so I doubt we'd choose to carry excess body-fat.
4: If you did manage to rip up a cat, cats are like microbial lifeforms to us, and your delving in simple pleasures.
5: Really the nanobots would only deport you for an actual impulse to act unlawfully. You'd be reduced from a God to a man without doing anything wrong at all.
Anything bad in a Utopia could only be brought about by, and in turn only effect, the one who creates it. That's the new rule in this thread. You still have free will, but if you act primitively your return to your primitive state, and us Gods remain unaffected by your almost action, and we remain in a euphoric state of mind, completely incapable of negative thought. Unless one chooses to create a negative thought, which still does not effect anyone else, but sends said entity back to primitive levels, isolated, cut off from the Utopia. If you want pain, you can have it. If you want pain for another, you cannot, you have no control over another consciousness, only over your own.
This way no one can be held back from productivity by destructive conflict...which kills two birds with one stone.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In my utopia people know what words mean.
You're not understanding what a technological Utopia really is. Choosing to have a negative thought for them would be like you choosing to burn 90% of your epidermis away for no reason suddenly in the middle of the day 😂. There's a difference between pleasure and just plain joy, and actual negative emotion like jealously, selfishness, pain, anything unpleasant etc. With advances in socio-progressive technologies and setups the things that would cause emotions like envy or hate would be eliminated. You're not choosing to be ignorant of a problem, or something that bothers you, there's just nothing around to bother you anymore.
You're also underestimating what technology can achieve, it can make people more mature. Our descendents might not find it logical to get upset over anything, they might be so high off of their exponentially increasing perceptual awareness that the chemical processes responsible for militant behavior won't even be accessible. Instead the only state of awareness they might undergo is that which writes symphonies or has revelations or epiphanies that change the course of history with quantum leaps in the scientific method.
I can't believe this still isn't clear to you, you've had discussions about psi-conscious beings who can manipulate wave functions and quantum superpositions in another thread. I thought your mind would be more unhooked than this.
On top of artificial enhancements that contain a human mind's worth of data processing power per nanometer, there is zero death, zero sickness, zero labor, zero stress, only careers pertaining to the arts and sciences.