What would you do in a Utopian Society?

Started by Bentley14 pages
Originally posted by Dolos
[B]Zero pollution, a non-toxic environment reducing epidemics like hypothyroidism or autism, zero disease, zero stress, zero labor, education, meaningful careers in science...giant nature-covered movie cinemas...perhaps even displaying full-immersion virtual reality....cinemas could also host multilayer full-immersion virtual reality GAMING.

You forgot guns.

Originally posted by Bentley
You forgot guns.

Relics outside of gaming. If someone needs a weapon to harm another, refer to my rule two pages back, and the tech now exists to enforce it while also enforcing peace, progress, and keeping our free-will in tact all the while.

In gaming, now that depends if the gaming is about 21st century warfare or 11th century warfare with medieval weapons, knights, and Dragons. You could even experience a 100% realistic virtual world in such a game, as a dragon, or some other mythical beast of your choosing. I might be Superman, impervious to bullets.

Indeed in the virtual world there may be a such thing as "Imagination Warfare". In which your avatar's capabilities in-game are related directly to what the player can imagine. Literally a battle that would feel as real as when the game is over, however during this battle your strength might increase from a starting point of being able to lift thirty times your body weight, to one hundred octillion times the mass of the earth. Your speed increasing from 100mph to a trillion times that of light when uninhibited during the early universe as particles as fast as tachyons. There are no limitations but what you can't define through a lack of visualizing and therefore manifestation in the virtual world.

Originally posted by Dolos
Canning the space program, NASA; as for a relevant prediction about the early 21st century made in the 1950s and even in the 60s by the likes of Arthur C. Clarke. I was speaking in relativistic terms for a post-human whose opted for microscopic implants that hold one human mind of information per nanometer.
the part of your post that I assume are examples of what I asked for makes no sense. can you clarify?

the thing with your grammar has nothing to with spelling btw, you mistake homophones. sometimes this compromises comprehension: raise instead of raze and whose instead of who's (who has). im not trying to be pedantic just thought it might help

Originally posted by 753
the part of your post that I assume are examples of what I asked for makes no sense. can you clarify?

My original intent was to express the possibility of real-life prescience that can determine what society will do just as easily as you could determine what an animal might do. Early 21st century society could be as easily studied by 22nd century individuals as animals are to zoologists...given a possibly exponential rate of change in intellectual evolution due to possible inventions in the late 21st century such as but not limited to AI and Mind-Uploading. For such a 22nd century being, predicting the coming of the Dark Ages, the Rennaissance, every war and every economic change and political event in 19th and 20th century civilization would have been child's play. One super-evolved mind would be more usefull than every human mind put together.

Thanks for correcting me.

I would blow up the universe with a reality bomb.

As King of Utopia, I approve of that plan. Get on it.

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Originally posted by Dolos
My original intent was to express the possibility of real-life prescience that can determine what society will do just as easily as you could determine what an animal might do.

A person with effective prescience wouldn't be surprised by its subjects as often as ethologists are.

Much like Kurzweil you just can't seem to stop showing off how little you know about the things you talk about.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A person with effective prescience wouldn't be surprised by its subjects as often as ethologists are.

Much like Kurzweil you just can't seem to stop showing off how little you know about the things you talk about.

He's 19. That age excels at trying to be boastful but falling very short of anything impressive.

Originally posted by Dolos
My original intent was to express the possibility of real-life prescience that can determine what society will do just as easily as you could determine what an animal might do. Early 21st century society could be as easily studied by 22nd century individuals as animals are to zoologists...given a possibly exponential rate of change in intellectual evolution due to possible inventions in the late 21st century such as but not limited to AI and Mind-Uploading. For such a 22nd century being, predicting the coming of the Dark Ages, the Rennaissance, every war and every economic change and political event in 19th and 20th century civilization would have been child's play. One super-evolved mind would be more usefull than every human mind put together.

Thanks for correcting me.

right... but this is all sci-fi. for one, predicting an individual animal's behavior with complete accuracy, be it humans or insects, isn't possible. even general predictions of both simple and complex animal behavior are limited and often impossible.

likewise, sufficient knowledge of all the variables involved in determinig collective human behavior to allow for accurate predictions is impossible due to empirical limitations in acquiring and interpreting said knowledge, not just a matter of processing power. if said predictions require knowledge of previous historical periods this becomes even more impossible as the further away in the past they are, the less records will be available and what records do survive are fragmented and shaped by the subjective interpretation of the original recorder and the reader.

your assumption of the exponential increase of human intellectual capacity is futuristic enthusiasm, but actual evidence for an AI and or human enhancement singularity is quite scarce, not to say inexistent.

Prepare for space.

You guys must have some grand idea about me that when I make a claim to the possibility of prescience that you're all like, "You see he's just a 19 year-old." I must be impressive.

No, we're just overwhelmed by your averageness.

Originally posted by Dolos
You guys must have some grand idea about me that when I make a claim to the possibility of prescience that you're all like, "You see he's just a 19 year-old." I must be impressive.

Do you have a Jump-to-Conclusions Mat at home?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No, we're just overwhelmed by your averageness.

Kank!

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Do you have a Jump-to-Conclusions Mat at home?

The length of the posts in response to my comments is amusing is all. That and the anomolous amount of spam that comes to my thread.

Originally posted by Dolos
The length of the posts in response to my comments is amusing is all. That and the anomolous amount of spam that comes to my thread.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'length'. Are you referring to the shorter posts like mine and Lucien's, or the long posts like 753's?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'length'. Are you referring to the shorter posts like mine and Lucien's, or the long posts like 753's?

The length of 753's posts, and the quantity of responses trying to bash me, troll me, undermine my opinions, trolling a conversation into something about metaphorical rape, the overall animosity ya'll give off here.

This is what the Robtard and Lord Lucien look like to me;

ya calling me a spammer, OV?

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@dolos your over the top futurism piques people's curiosity is all. the point of this forum is to debate this kind of shit

Originally posted by 753
ya calling me a spammer, OV?

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@dolos your over the top futurism piques people's curiosity is all. the point of this forum is to debate this kind of shit

But what do I have to do with it. More specifically what does my being 19, or being falsely intelligent or boasting or me being a rapist based off of stupid troll logic, not checking my spelling like it's an obsession have to do with ANYTHING I've written here?

I'll tell you why, they're ****ing annoying assclown trolls here is why. The only thing that could arouse them on any emotional level is trolling, not sci fi or anything you could discuss seriously about. It's very annoying.

Originally posted by Dolos
The length of 753's posts, and the quantity of responses trying to bash me, troll me, undermine my opinions, trolling a conversation into something about metaphorical rape, the overall animosity ya'll give off here.

This is what the Robtard and Lord Lucien look like to me;

my posts aint even long, yours are longer