What would you do in a Utopian Society?

Many things are justifiable in the jungle of love!

Originally posted by Prezzy Obama
Many things are justifiable in the jungle of love!

According to Bardock anything you do (being nice, trying to impress, buying, spoiling) for a woman to get her to like you is a form of rape!! 🙁

It's only reading her mind is garanteed. 😉

No but seriously it's kinda difficult not to seduce a woman when you're a man who knows exactly what to do and when to do it. The fact is that if she's not into you, and never would be you, you'd know, because you could read her mind! So unless every single female you come across has a 100% certaintity of rejection, you're 100% garanteed not to be rejected. Think of it is as broadening your scopes.

And no that's not like the 60% of the time it works everytime quote DON'T SAY IT IS! 😠

Originally posted by Oliver North
its not exactly rape, but it is certainly dishonest, manipulative and a violation of her privacy.

I don't know, I've never had to lie to or manipulate a woman to have sex with her /shrug

Then you aren't setting your sites high enough.

Originally posted by Dolos
Think of it is as broadening your scopes.

I prefer to think of it as an invasion of privacy :/

Originally posted by Oliver North
its not exactly rape, but it is certainly dishonest, manipulative and a violation of her privacy.

How is it dishonest or manipulative.

We are what we repeatedly do.

I don't know, I've never had to lie to or manipulate a woman to have sex with her /shrug

I'm not just talking about sex here. Love, ya know, the thing I just quoted after saying it twice already? The memories we hold? Whatever. 🙄

Originally posted by Dolos
Anyway, if reading her mind and appealing to her dream guy is rape; than aren't we all raping women?

Generally if you think that you need to erase someone's memory after having sex with them you're either a pathetic loser or a pathetic rapist.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Generally if you think that you need to erase someone's memory after having sex with them you're either a pathetic loser or a pathetic rapist.

Originally posted by Dolos
How is it dishonest or manipulative.

dishonest: she has no idea you know her thoughts

manipulative: you are using her private thoughts to get her to do what you want

Originally posted by Dolos
I'm not just talking about sex here. Love, ya know, the thing I just quoted after saying it twice already? The memories we hold? Whatever. 🙄

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Originally posted by Oliver North
I don't know, I've never had to lie to or manipulate a woman to have sex a romantic relationship with her /shrug

It is rape of course. You wouldn't be convicted, cause it is in essence not provable (though most rapists are never convicted anyways, so you'd be in company). If you don't think it is rape take an equivalent example, you give someone a drug that makes them do whatever you want and make them have sex with you I think we can all agree that would be rape. And that's basically what you intend with perhaps slight constraints.

And no, it's not the same as little disingenuity on dates like being on your best behavior, wearing make up. There is obviously some line, if you were to research/stalk a person and change your behavior to fit what you think they like, and pretend to have interests and opinions you don't have because they have them just to have sex with them, that would be incredibly sleazy and quite close to that line, but the scenario you described totally overshot it, it's rape. You want to rape people. Congrats.

Bardock, it sounds like you need a good ol fashioned raping.

Originally posted by Mindset
Bardock, it sounds like you need a good ol fashioned raping.

He does.

Nothing like first hand experience to shake you out of hating guys like in What Women Want.

Full fledged rape vs mind reading. 😂

Originally posted by Bardock42
It is rape of course. You wouldn't be convicted, cause it is in essence not provable (though most rapists are never convicted anyways, so you'd be in company). If you don't think it is rape take an equivalent example, you give someone a drug that makes them do whatever you want and make them have sex with you I think we can all agree that would be rape. And that's basically what you intend with perhaps slight constraints.

And no, it's not the same as little disingenuity on dates like being on your best behavior, wearing make up. There is obviously some line, if you were to research/stalk a person and change your behavior to fit what you think they like, and pretend to have interests and opinions you don't have because they have them just to have sex with them, that would be incredibly sleazy and quite close to that line,

The **** cares about your opinions? Who cares if I'm sleazy, as long as I'm not alone, which would be the path you'd go down if everthing = rape.

but the scenario you described totally overshot it, it's rape. You want to rape people. Congrats.

Okay, you ate food today. Therefore you're a rapist! -points finger of condemnation- Gratz.

Get rid of that avi, it makes you a rapist.

Another meaning for rape is - an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.

You're raping my eyes with your avi.

You want to lie and manipulate a girl by knowing her thoughts and saying and doing what will get her to sleep with you, then you want to wipe her mind. Tell me, how is that different than slipping her a roofie?

nono, he wants to do all that to have a romantic relationship, not just sex

its closer to slavery than rape

My bad.

So is this romantic relationship basically gonna work like 50 First Dates? Just that he memory wipes her every night?

Although, I would say rape is still applicable if not the whole picture. Perhaps slavery featuring rape?

oh, my bad entirely, I didn't mean to make them sound mutually exclusive

Your personal ethical arguments seem somewhat banal when innocent people are dying for numerous reasons worldwide. Shame, shame on you all.

Rape, slavery, I own her heart too. 😈