What would you do in a Utopian Society?

Originally posted by Oliver North
you could have just said "I've never taken acid" 😉

Taking LSD in the virtual world would be no less damage to neuro pathways than taking in real life.

As a human with a gooey brain, the virutal world would rely on chemicals to affect the brain so that it thinks it's 100% real, inner ear and everything. The difference is losing a limb in virtual world does not affect your real limb when you wake up.

Therefore it's awesome, because you can experience the regeneration of limbs and a 100% reaction from an onlooker thinking you are performing a miracle, you can experience have muscles a thousand times stronger, having sex with a goddess, etc etc...and it's what it would really be like...while nanotech does do these things for you in real life, even technology has limits, in the virutal world the limits are set by your fantasies.

Think about everyone around you in the virtual world, the world is a computer that knows the how people act and think and communicate in today's world, it's that smart, so therefore it's entities are reacting genuinely, they are real to you, they are their own people, and they are real to you, but they are nothing but computer programs that cannot never be made manifest fast your perceptions in the virtual world where you are omnipotent can have any fantasy.

My point was more about expanding your imagination so that, with the power to do whatever you wanted, you weren't so obsessed with trivial things like punching people really fast or sex.

And I'm not even going to try with the neuro stuff... pick your battles inimalist, pick your battles...

One may have experienced a relationship that wasn't as good as it could have been...maybe the partner wasn't attractive enough, maybe you made a mistake and nothing ever worked out...

That's why there's a necessity for me to make a virtual world, so that I have control, and can have as much fun and make a relationship as fulfilling as I want...and love is the most powerful source of euphoria to the human mind, not the love by itself, but the experience of a life with someone else, all those memories you have of them, of you with her/him and vice versa...as good as you want it to be...

Unhappiness ultimately comes from one thing, stuff isn't happening the way you want it to, or what you want to happen isn't happening. So the virtual world is Heaven, you can't be unhappy, because nothing is out of your reach and you can never be denied anything....you can eat more delicious cake and become more ripped and sexy as you do it...why not? It's a simple matter of coding....

Do you still think I am a minimalist?

Originally posted by Dolos
I do not fear your dull and uninteresting interpretation of God...

What a miraculous transformation is it to replace all of my blood cells with cybernetic material capable of supplying my body with 265-350 times it's normal amount of oxygen? Implications are as astonishing as allowing our fragile bodies to survive unaided after losing over 90% our blood in the most fatal of incidents? To detoxify snake bites? To sprint all out, something that a person cannot sustain for more than a few seconds, for half an hour without even breathing heavy? To hold our breath for hours and hours and hours? Really? That is really possible? Oh God Damn I hope it is.

Is making human beings immune to all cancers and disabilities not right? Not just? Not rationalized? Not logical? That God wants us to play small and pathetic? I don't believe whatever God may be, that It created the perplexities of this cosmos to serve our needs, or for us, you dull-minded humanocentric fool. A God capable of such miracles as this Cosmos would not concieve a person with down syndrome, so that her disorder could get her mocked and made fun of from grade school up?...what a shame it is for a human to believe such a thing has a reason or rhyme to it, that it's God's mysterious mechanism to create these misfortunate freaks of nature to serve no no no absolutely NO purpose to society.

And btw, I wouldn't be a 'half cyborg'. Your viewpoint of the proposed Human Version 2.0 seems to be that of the million dollar man.

However, I'll tell you it's more like Doctor Manhattan and how the subtraction of his atomic polarity and charge allowed his psiconscious essence to reassemble his own body from the subatomic, ergo intrinsic (as in the fundamental essence of matter), level.

Except not on the subatomic level, on the molecular level, nanotechnologies have implications in nanoassembly and factories, they cannot go into and manipulate the atoms within the molecules...but in a thousand years after the Utopian Age, yocto-scopic technologies will be able to.

But even with the molecular-factories within the digital replacements for our cells, our capabilites would expand such that we would all look like stunning 18 year-olds picked from modelling agencies, immortal, super strong, and capable of learning everything known to man in the field of, for example, mathematics, within hours of study...and retaining that information in absolute detail, able to pull it for use on a whim, for all eternity.

Everything you're saying, everything you're advocating, everything you're putting your trust in...

...is based on greed. "I want to be able to do this. I want to be able to do that. I want hot chicks. I want super powers. I want yadda yadda yadda."

You remind me of a guy on YouTube who wanted to be a Super Saiyan, and believed that humans could transcend beyond being human (transhumanism in a nutshell). He kept going on about human weakness and flaws that could be enhanced. How "oh we can walk, we can jump we can run, but that's it."

You're being so ungrateful for what you CAN do, for what God gave you, because you're salivating over pipe-dreams of being some "god" among men.

Your attitude is really unfortunate.

"But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out."
-1 Timothy 6:6-7

Originally posted by Dolos
Do you still think I am a minimalist?

I've never thought you were a minimalist, I wouldn't give you that much credit 😛

otherwise, ya, your idea sounds like the product of someone with little imagination

I personally am a nimalist

Originally posted by Dolos
I'll simply admit that my ambitions are greater than yours.

Your ambitions, given limitless power, are "get laid" and "punch a guy".

I'd create virtual worlds and explore the subtle complexities of social, psychological, physical, and spiritual interaction within them.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Everything you're saying, everything you're advocating, everything you're putting your trust in...

...is based on greed. "I want to be able to do this. I want to be able to do that. I want hot chicks. I want super powers. I want yadda yadda yadda."

You remind me of a guy on YouTube who wanted to be a Super Saiyan, and believed that humans could transcend beyond being human (transhumanism in a nutshell). He kept going on about human weakness and flaws that could be enhanced. How "oh we can walk, we can jump we can run, but that's it."

You're being so ungrateful for what you CAN do, for what God gave you, because you're salivating over pipe-dreams of being some "god" among men.

Your attitude is really unfortunate.

"But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out."
-1 Timothy 6:6-7

That dude doesn't sound like a transhumanist, he sounds like he is delusional. Have I not already said twice, in two different posts, that I will pursue a realistic life style regardless of what I choose to delve into, such as you fantasizing about what heaven will be like.

This is a transhumanist:

YouTube video

Yes, he's a transhumanist, but do you know how ****ing smart he is??

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'd create virtual worlds and explore the subtle complexities of social, psychological, physical, and spiritual interaction within them.

Finally I'm getting a straight answer.

If I had limitless power I'd retcon the Constantine film to be a) about Hellblazer Constantine and b) to be good, and then I'd watch it.

I'm a man of simple pleasures.

I'd also make celery taste good, cause **** celery, man

Originally posted by Dolos
Yes, he's a transhumanist, but do you know how ****ing smart he is??

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"
-Romans 1:22

I'm pretty sure that Symmetric Chaos can't write the Hello World! program in any language, let alone design a three-dimensional world with graphical interface.

Besides, it makes no sense to explore what you've written. Because you'd know how it would behave.

What's this topic really about, having god-like power or living in a utopia?

I can write a Hello World program in English:

Hello Worlfödlskhfjäaösdkf

Ugh, ****

Originally posted by Bardock42
I can write a Hello World program in English:

Hello Worlfödlskhfjäaösdkf

Ugh, ****

Originally posted by Astner
What's this topic really about, having god-like power or living in a utopia?

Dolos is of the opinion that in a utopia people would have this limitless power, so it has sort of become about both

We don't have "å"

We do however have ä, ö, ü and ß

Originally posted by Oliver North
Dolos is of the opinion that in a utopia people would have this limitless power, so it has sort of become about both

I'm pretty sure that's not the case in Thomas More's but we don't all have to agree on what a Utopia is, amirite?

Originally posted by Astner
Besides, it makes no sense to explore what you've written. Because you'd know how it would behave.

Underlying conditions and scenarios are written, your life is played out to uncertaintity under desired circumstances.

The circumstances are what we need to for a greater plausibility to achieve experiences that we want. Social interaction with lifelike simulations is what matters, but these however they act is not predetermined, but based on free will. You're the only one with the knowledge that this virtual world is yours for the taking.

And it's is not virtual in the since of computer programming, but whatever kind of neuralogical interactions that go on within the nanotech brains of our godlike descendants. It's direct mind-uplaoding to be exact.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"
-Romans 1:22

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah well Romans are stupid anyway.

Especially around 1:00-1:30.