I reread the fight and as much as I want to think Odin was holding back, I couldn't find anything stating or showing him not trying to take Thanos out. Thanos endured him, plain and simple and I am one of the peeps that always said Odin held back. Just because Odin didn't destroy a Galaxy during his fight against Thanos doesn't mean he held back. Now an argument can be made that Odin didn't try to kill Thanos (since he had him dead to rights at the end of the fight) but Odin was shocked that Thanos withstood everything he threw at him "while commenting both having near limitless power".
Originally posted by carver9
I reread the fight and as much as I want to think Odin was holding back, I couldn't find anything stating or showing him not trying to take Thanos out. Thanos endured him, plain and simple and I am one of the peeps that always said Odin held back. Just because Odin didn't destroy a Galaxy during his fight against Thanos doesn't mean he held back. Now an argument can be made that Odin didn't try to kill Thanos (since he had him dead to rights at the end of the fight) but Odin was shocked that Thanos withstood everything he threw at him "while commenting both having near limitless power".
So, trying to beat someone = going all out?
Originally posted by Silent Master
So, trying to beat someone = going all out?
Not what I am saying. I am telling you that there wasn't anything stated or shown during that fight in regards to Odin holding back. Just because a Galaxy wasn't destroyed doesnt mean Odin wasn't trying against Thanos. He was trying "unless you have some concrete evidence showing otherwise?"
Originally posted by carver9
Not what I am saying. I am telling you that there wasn't anything stated or shown during that fight in regards to Odin holding back. Just because a Galaxy wasn't destroyed doesnt mean Odin wasn't trying against Thanos. He was trying "unless you have some concrete evidence showing otherwise?"
Was there anything stated or shown in regards to Odin going all out?
Absent of evidence isn't evidence. That god you're not an attorney Silent.
Here is what we have in evidence.. We have:
1. Odin stating he was going to kill Thanos.. Do you have ANY narration with odin stating he his holding back or not tryig to do so?
2. We have Odin bringing out weapons against Thanos to put him down.. If he wasn't trying.. why bring out somethign to pack more punch? You wouldn't.
3. We have Odin commenting that Thanos has nearly limitless power like his own... We even have Odin commenting that he hasnt' fought somebody like this in Eons. Do you have any narration stating that Odin in fact thought Thanos was a weaker foe?
4. How do we know Odin was trying.. well.. besides narratino making this crystal clear... It's common sense... Asgard was being invaded... His son was held prisoner.. Seems pretty clear he would be pissed and what to put down the foe.. Guess what his narration backs up that common sense approach to what most would do if your home was being invaded.
5.. Then we have Odin one shotting heralds with ease. Odin's not been able to put down heralds before in one shot.. yet this time he one shots two heralds with ease. Seems like he must've been putting some effort into this eh?
6. Just because Thor doesn't use an exotic power he's shown before DOESN'T mean he's holding back. that isn't how things work and that is fallacious to argue otherwise. Just because Superman doesnt' use HV during a fight doesn't mean he's holding back. Writers don't have people do all they can do each and every fight.. yet they are still valid fights not thrown out... nor labeled NOT TRYING. If we did that.. we could label every fight as they weren't trying if they didn't use each and every ability they have? Do we? Is that how fights are to be evaluated now? If so, than few fights if any pass that criteria. Problem is we don't.. Odin said nothing nor showed nothing that he was holding back. Was he goin 100% no, probably not. I think Odin sitll had some tricks and stepping up to do. But I think 80%-90% is fair.
So because he didn't say he's going out.. means he's not.. Please show me ANYTIME Odin has used the words.. I'm going all out now in ANY of his fights with Set, Surtur or anybody. He's never used such words.. So, why then does it matter when he fights Thanos and not the others? Guess he wasn't going all out for Set or Surtur then eh? Damn that Odin just holds back in all his fights and lets Mangog curb stomp him.. What a nice fellow.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So because he didn't say he's going out.. means he's not.. Please show me ANYTIME Odin has used the words.. I'm going all out now in ANY of his fights with Set, Surtur or anybody. He's never used such words.. So, why then does it matter when he fights Thanos and not the others? Guess he wasn't going all out for Set or Surtur then eh? Damn that Odin just holds back in all his fights and lets Mangog curb stomp him.. What a nice fellow.
IOW, you have zero proof that Odin was going all out.
Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you have zero proof that Odin was going all out.
Still waiting on Odin EVER saying he's going all out? It doens't exist... So then, it's YOUR claim and others that he was going all out against Set, Surtur among others.. Yet never used those words. So then, by your own premise and conclusion.. Odin doesn't have to say he's gonig all out to be... Game, set, match
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Still waiting on Odin EVER saying he's going all out? It doens't exist... So then, it's YOUR claim and others that he was going all out against Set, Surtur among others.. Yet never used those words. So then, by your own premise and conclusion.. Odin doesn't have to say he's gonig all out to be... Game, set, match
Like I said, you have zero proof that Odin was going all out during the Thanos fight.
It's fairly obvious that Odin was trying to put Thanos down, and that he failed at it. Does that mean he was trying his best? Phuck no. Not even close. Bringing Gungir out doesn't mean he was giving it all he had, and at the same time, doesn't mean he was really going easy either. It's a good feat for Thanos, and there's no need to attempt to turn in it into something it's not. Just leave the feat as it is, nothing more or less.
Nobody is trying to say anything I'm just tooling Silent like usual. It's his claim that since Odin didn't say he was going all out.. he wasn't... yet Odin has never said that in the fights he references as going all out.. Thus, that isn't needed for Odin to say he's going all out in order for him to be. Just a simple tooling, nothing more, nothing less