Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nobody is trying to say anything I'm just tooling Silent like usual. It's his claim that since Odin didn't say he was going all out.. he wasn't... yet Odin has never said that in the fights he references as going all out.. Thus, that isn't needed for Odin to say he's going all out in order for him to be. Just a simple tooling, nothing more, nothing less
It's an irrelevant point then since his actions speak many times louder than any of his words could have. It's pretty obvious he wasn't going anywhere near all out. Doesn't mean he wasn't trying to win though.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nobody is trying to say anything I'm just tooling Silent like usual. It's his claim that since Odin didn't say he was going all out.. he wasn't... yet Odin has never said that in the fights he references as going all out.. Thus, that isn't needed for Odin to say he's going all out in order for him to be. Just a simple tooling, nothing more, nothing less
Where exactly did I make this claim?
Originally posted by Damborgson
It's an irrelevant point then since his actions speak many times louder than any of his words could have. It's pretty obvious he wasn't going anywhere near all out. Doesn't mean he wasn't trying to win though.
Not it's very relevant to his argument actually, one that has been crushed. I'm confused by something.. define wasn't going anywhere near all out.. Give me a percentage of how much Odin was trying.. with 100% being all out.
Originally posted by Damborgson
It's an irrelevant point then since his actions speak many times louder than any of his words could have. It's pretty obvious he wasn't going anywhere near all out. Doesn't mean he wasn't trying to win though.
He's also lying, as I've never made that claim...I have said that Odin has been shown to use more power in several other fights, I even listed some of those fights earlier in the thread...I've also stated that there is nothing shown or stated in the Odin/Thanos fight to indicate that Odin was going all out.
He's basically trolling.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not it's very relevant to his argument actually, one that has been crushed. I'm confused by something.. define wasn't going anywhere near all out.. Give me a percentage of how much Odin was trying.. with 100% being all out.
It's irrelevant in the grand scheme of the debate.
He was trying about as much as he could in his current state. But he didn't amp himself. It's a staple of Odin's abilities to grow in power, and he could have done so had he felt like it. He didn't, so it's not like that was him at everything he had and failing to put Thanos down.
Originally posted by Silent Master
He's also lying, as I've never made that claim...I have said that Odin has been shown to use more power in several other fights, I even listed some of those fights earlier in the thread...I've also stated that there is nothing shown or stated in the Odin/Thanos fight to indicate that Odin was going all out.He's basically trolling.
I figured. I don't want to get caught up on a nonexistent argument though. That's when it just turns into arguing about who said what.
So I'll start my own fresh. 😉
Originally posted by Silent Master
He's also lying, as I've never made that claim...I have said that Odin has been shown to use more power in several other fights, I even listed some of those fights earlier in the thread...I've also stated that there is nothing shown or stated in the Odin/Thanos fight to indicate that Odin was going all out.He's basically trolling.
More lies.. So then.. Odin wasn't going all out against Set then.. He left more in the tank there? Is this your NEW claim?
Originally posted by Damborgson
It's irrelevant in the grand scheme of the debate.He was trying about as much as he could in his current state. But he didn't amp himself. It's a staple of Odin's abilities to grow in power, and he could have done so had he felt like it. He didn't, so it's not like that was him at everything he had and failing to put Thanos down.
YOu didn't answer though.. How much effort was he giving forth.. You said that he wasn't anywhere close to going all out.. that makes it seem like he was going about 20 or 30% so what is it then?
Further, just because Thor doesn't use an ability he has.. doesn't mean he isn't trying his hardest.. You understnad this point right? You do understand if we require every character in every fight to use all their abilities and fight smart in every move.. we HAVE ZERO FIGHTS with somebody "going all out" you understand this point right? So, Odin not doing this or that isn't proof of anything. That is how comic book fights and real life fights go. We don't go.. Well BJ didn't try and take Rory down.. and thus he wasn't trying... Of course he was.. just because you don't use everything in your arsenal doesn't mean you weren't trying or giving it your best.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
YOu didn't answer though.. How much effort was he giving forth.. You said that he wasn't anywhere close to going all out.. that makes it seem like he was going about 20 or 30% so what is it then?Further, just because Thor doesn't use an ability he has.. doesn't mean he isn't trying his hardest.. You understnad this point right? You do understand if we require every character in every fight to use all their abilities and fight smart in every move.. we HAVE ZERO FIGHTS with somebody "going all out" you understand this point right? So, Odin not doing this or that isn't proof of anything. That is how comic book fights and real life fights go. We don't go.. Well BJ didn't try and take Rory down.. and thus he wasn't trying... Of course he was.. just because you don't use everything in your arsenal doesn't mean you weren't trying or giving it your best.
I did give you an answer though...
Originally posted by Damborgson
He was trying about as much as he could in his current state.
Attributing arguments I haven't used it cute and all, but pointless. A good deal of your post up there is filled with things I didn't say, if you're not trying to say that I said them, don't post it.
You're the one who doesn't seem to be able to comprehend. Odin and Thor aren't comparable. This isn't about the versatility of abilities used, but the amount of power used. Odin gains power by amping, he's done it many times and he didn't use it here so it wasn't an all out. It was him simply putting effort forth to beat Thanos and being unable to do so. Doesn't mean it was his best. Unless you think he put the same effort into beating Thanos that he put into beating Galactus. Which would be, well incorrect anyway.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
More lies.. So then.. Odin wasn't going all out against Set then.. He left more in the tank there? Is this your NEW claim?
My "claim" is that Odin has been shown to use more power in several other fights, I even listed some of those fights earlier in the thread...I've also stated that there is nothing shown or stated in the Odin/Thanos fight to indicate that Odin was going all out.
that's damborgson after he saw this thread start
that's silent master when he saw the thread
that's mindset all day, every day
Oafin has had pathetic low showings on several occassions. has thanosever been defeated by an army of space ants with rays guns? No. This happened while he had full access to all this oafin force powerz. I also don't recall thanos ever being incapacitated and powered drained by gruel (given by space ants with ray guns). I also don't recall thanos ever being stupid enough to eat the gruel in question.
In other words, oafin has the low showings (these among others) to suggest that he isn't always consistent and doesn't always utilize his powers properly. it's not really his fault, he doesn't have the willpower and brains thanos has.