Thanos returns in a New Cosimc War"Infinity" *Spoiler*

Started by basilisk21 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
huh? from what i gathered, 'the end' took place in the prime/616 universe--the same universe thanos' mini series, 'annihilation', 'thanos imperative', etc. were set in... did i miss something? 😕

also, this book reconfirms that thanos /w/ THOTI only destroyed ONE universe. 👆

I thought the handbook at the time referenced The End as happening in another universe (which it gave a specific number to) but alluded something similar may have happened in 616. And yes, only one universe was destroyed.

^ Nope. Here is all the info that cemented 'The End' as canon to 616 before the events of 'Infinity Revelations'...

From Thanos' 2003 mini:

From Thanos' 2006 OHOTMU bio:

From Eternity's 2006 OHOTMU bio:

From Living Tribunal's 2006 OHOTMU bio:

From Inifnity's 2006 OHOTMU bio:

From Master Order & Lord Chaos' 2007 OHOTMU bio:

From the 2010 Thanos Sourcebook:

*Everything pertinent from the bios is outlined in red.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Nope. Here is all the info that cemented 'The End' as canon to 616 before the events of 'Infinity Revelations'...
I realize this is now the case, and has been well before IR, but I thought an older handbook referenced it as another universe to begin with. I have no idea which one though

I don't think so.

I think he's referring to the universe where Thanos gained the Heart from Akhenaten.. I think it was referenced as another universe...

We would classify it as being more than just Universal though right? If it was able to absorb a omniversal being with a mere gesture... surely that is well beyond just universal

thanos /w/ THOTI=TOAA, essentially. that's why/how he was able to absorb an omniversal being(LT). however, in the past some have argued that thanos absorbed/recreated the whole of marvel(the omniverse) during his final tirade, despite the evidence to the contrary. 'revelations' further confirms that he absorbed/recreated ONE universe only.

the scope of said tirade is all i was referencing. 🙂

The End could have been city sized for all it matters. It still destroyed all the figureheads of Marvel.

Which apparently doesn't make sense unless it was omniversal apparently with sketchy "evidence". People can't separate power from scope.

Originally posted by Galan007

...the man is a complete idiot.

And now he says he is a "expert" at Marvel on such matter as canon and "battleboards" things 😆

When I’m speaking of such things, to the degree that I get into these “battleboards” sorts of questions, I’m coming at this from the perspective of the person who oversees and rules on our Marvel Handbooks, and who is considered the expert at Marvel on such matters

Jim Starlin's Hulk vs Thanos Limited series on the way

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=55494

Originally posted by Kazenji
Jim Starlin's Hulk vs Thanos Limited series on the way

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=55494

Got a feeling this will be a good little run. Just hoping that they don't make Thanos do something stupid and get OHKO'd.

just finished revelation. i was like, meh. i thought the explanation for some of thanos' behavior was....pretty ridiculous. that type of broad ranging explanation rarely DOESN'T feel very contrived imo. his explanations for thanos' behavior did nothing but devalue those appearances in my eyes. the whole story itself seemed to be nothing more than a reason to give thanos yet ANOTHER apparent, though more subtle, power up and to give warlock a similar power up. i am curious about the ultimate purpose of the merging of those 2 universes, but not overly so. it all seemed to happen so quickly and easily, with the only ramifications being a replacement warlock and the death of an alternate thanos.

not sure how the eff brevoort can still deny the canonicity of the end though. 😂 he must really really dislike starlin..... and yeah, no doubt galan--revelation seems to have completely cemented the notion that only a UNIVERSE was absorbed by thanos in THE END. we are smrt. 🙂

Originally posted by leonidas
just finished revelation. i was like, meh. i thought the explanation for some of thanos' behavior was....pretty ridiculous. that type of broad ranging explanation rarely DOESN'T feel very contrived imo. his explanations for thanos' behavior did nothing but devalue those appearances in my eyes. the whole story itself seemed to be nothing more than a reason to give thanos yet ANOTHER apparent, though more subtle, power up and to give warlock a similar power up. i am curious about the ultimate purpose of the merging of those 2 universes, but not overly so. it all seemed to happen so quickly and easily, with the only ramifications being a replacement warlock and the death of an alternate thanos.

Revelation was a complete disappointment for me and the whole thing felt contrived from start to finish. As you said it seemed like it was largely just another excuse for powering up his characters, mainly Warlock this time, yet again. The actual story was just... weak.

Starlin has lost it. How can he write a hundred pages and not have a single moment of any real drama or excitement? How can he make concepts such as destroying and creating universes feel so utterly pointless, repetitive, and mundane? Under Starlin, Thanos and Warlock seem to inhabit some sort of bizarre alternate Marvel Universe (the Stupidverse?) where all other characters are weaker, dumber parallel versions of their normal selves. Abstracts are petty and foolish, characters who should put up a fight are disposed of in seconds, experienced characters act like they are clueless rookies - all to serve the plot. Nothing challenges Thanos or Warlock and every 'obstacle' is overcome with hardly a thought or effort. Everything falls into their lap. No attempt is made at drama, clever plotting, or any characterization beyond the same tired, recycled Thanos-Warlock conversations.

Basically it was 100 pages of self-indulgent Starlin wankery.

lol beautiful. i agree 100%. 👆

The preview is up for that Thanos vs Hulk book.

Follow on to Infinity Revelations is out June 2015 called Infinity Relativity.

An interview with Jim Starlin

says Marvel has at least 3 Thanos's

http://www.newsarama.com/22848-jim-starlin-marvel-basically-has-three-thanoses.html

Basically Old Thanos (Movie), Shit Thanos (Bendis) and Cosmic Thanos (Mine).