Conan (2011)Vs Achilles

We have the scene where Achilles kills a dozen soldiers whilst sprinting past arrow hail, then decapitating a bronze statue, then making an "impossible" throw killing a man with his spear...after that there is no reason to doubt he couldn't have killed Hector with some difficulty and won the war for Aggamenon. There were warriors physically stronger than him, Ajax and Boagrius, and he could probably kill them all the same. Just wasn't in the same realm of any other warrior.

As with Conan he had moments of super strength, like when he pulled the incredibly heavy chain and knocked out a horse. He beat guys bigger and almost as strong as him, but they were a lot heavier. He won a fight against inhuman creatures before being paralyzed by a poisoned dagger whilst fighting a very very dangerous warrior, and he put up a hell of a fight. Later he beat that same man in a awesome display of technical skill. Though he did slug through other fights before that final fight, kinda like Hector vs Ajax, Achilles never really slugged through a fight - Achilles ususally dominated. :/

Achilles has upgraded to Conan age weaponry, that means steel. They both have their full set. Conan with a shield, because that blade he used should be more capable wielded one handed along with a shield. Achilles has no spear this time.

Achilles beats the shit outta him.

Note Conan has a lot of physical strength, greater than Boagrius by a wide margin I would say, combined with a more agile physique and skill pretty much equal to Hector.

As far as killer instinct goes, they are equals. Conan might even be a little more brutal in a blood lust.

Honestly it's a much larger challenge than Hector was. 😱

Achilles. He literally only had one point of weakness and only by the hand of the gods did an arrow find its way there.

Originally posted by Dolos
Note Conan has a lot of physical strength, greater than Boagrius by a wide margin I would say, combined with a more agile physique and skill pretty much equal to Hector.

As far as killer instinct goes, they are equals. Conan might even be a little more brutal in a blood lust.

Honestly it's a much larger challenge than Hector was. 😱

Achilles is faster, more agile, and a better fighter.

Originally posted by Mindset
Hector wasn't a challenge at all.

Achilles is faster, more agile, and a better fighter.

I would call Achilles' method of combat 'funk'. It's a bunch of risky shit. Hector and Conan were all 'nothing fansy'...well, maybe not Conan so much he was pretty fansy with his swordplay at times...but he stuck to what he had practiced for the most part, Achilles did crazy shit, like sprinting, leaping, twirling to weirdass insta-kills, he was willing to just do something crazy to end the fight quick.

Achilles' fansy foot-work had him in a superior position the whole fight EXCEPT the part when his armor got scratched, he screwed up with that funk and Hector just took advantage of his superior position. Conan has a LOT more staying power than both Hector and Achilles, and has more powerful form than Hector, I'd say his physicality is just as solid as Achilles', he just isn't as innovative with the funkiness that Achilles tries.

Achilles was toying with Hector.

You know what happens when he doesn't?

He was not going easy on Hector AT ALL. He was as much in his zone as he was against Boagrius and any other time he fought for real.

He was toying with his cousin in a sparring match with wood swords, that's it.

His funky move was snatching a physically spent Hector's spear with a crazy twirl, then stabbing him through the shoulder with it. And he was getting a little worked at that point.

With Boagrius, the man simply didn't see it coming and the fight was over before it began.

He was drawing out Hector's punishment.

That was apparent.

With Boagrius, the fight wasn't personal, he just wanted to kill him and go home.

He certainly wasn't taxed with Hector. He had a close call or two, but as for being pushed to anywhere near the limits of skill or endurance, not even close.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
He certainly wasn't taxed with Hector. He had a close call or two, but as for being pushed to anywhere near the limits of skill or endurance, not even close.

I didn't say taxed, I said he was starting to get a little worked. Hector was soundly spent.

Originally posted by Mindset
He was drawing out Hector's punishment.

That was apparent.

With Boagrius, the fight wasn't personal, he just wanted to kill him and go home.

What makes you think he was toying with him? At best you can argue he wanted to beat Hector on equal terms, as he did throw his shield when Hector lost his...but I'd also like to point out that he might have been worried Hector would have been at far more of a disadvantage without his shield...whereas before when Hector lost his spear Achilles didn't relent at all...nothing to suggest that starting out Achilles wasn't in the same mindset he was any other time, set out to kill everyone in front of him in the quickest way possible.

Originally posted by Dolos
What makes you think he was toying with him? At best you can argue he wanted to beat Hector on equal terms, as he did throw his shield when Hector lost his...but I'd also like to point out that he might have been worried Hector would have been at far more of a disadvantage without his shield...whereas before when Hector lost his spear Achilles didn't relent at all...nothing to suggest that starting out Achilles wasn't in the same mindset he was any other time, set out to kill everyone in front of him in the quickest way possible.

Canon.

You can't seriously believe he was trying to kill Hector as quick as possible, did you even watch the fight? He could have killed Hector when the guy tripped over a rock.

Originally posted by Mindset
Because he was stalking him like a lion does its prey then when he got pissed he made him his *****.

Canon.

You can't seriously believe he was trying to kill Hector as quick as possible, did you even watch the fight? He could have killed Hector when the guy tripped over a rock.

True... 😬

Maybe he was drawing Hector out, then when his armor got scratched shit got real...then when Hector fell Achilles was like..."ah man, really?" Then threw his shield away.

Achilles wins this no problem.

Originally posted by Dolos
What makes you think he was toying with him? At best you can argue he wanted to beat Hector on equal terms, as he did throw his shield when Hector lost his...but I'd also like to point out that he might have been worried Hector would have been at far more of a disadvantage without his shield...whereas before when Hector lost his spear Achilles didn't relent at all...nothing to suggest that starting out Achilles wasn't in the same mindset he was any other time, set out to kill everyone in front of him in the quickest way possible.

"I won't let a stone steal my glory". Achilles did say something like that didn't he? He could have easily killed Hector then, but he told him to get up and fight him again. He even threw away his shield to make the fight more even. You don't do these things if you want t finish the fight as fast as possible. Meaning Achilles wanted to draw it out.

Also you notice in most of their fight, Achilles would deliver a blow then strike a pose. Deliver a blow then strike another pose. You really think that was Achilles going for the kill? He was toying with Hector. Or if "toying" seems to be too strong a word then let's say he was trying to "punish" Hector by drawing out the fight and him savoring it.

Not sparring like he did with his cousin, but definitely not going for an immediate kill.

When Hector finally scratched Achilles' armor, Hector grazed his armor with a wild swing and hardly damaged Achilles armor. I don't see why this is seen as a low showing for Achilles. He went to war and all he suffered was a scratch on his armor?

Conan in comparison suffered multiple hits. Besides, it's irrelevant on how strong Conan is. Achilles didn't win his fights by overpowering his opponents. Achilles would just jump around him and use superior skill to kill him.

maybe if you gave him his feats from game of thrones.. lol anyhoo.. Achilles stomps

Originally posted by Dolos
I didn't say taxed

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I didn't say you said taxed.

He was sweaty, his heartbeat was up, he was taking deeper breaths. Imagine a warmup before practice for a high school sport.

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