Your arguments don't make sense with one another. You're also strawmanning.
Gameplay mechanics are just mechanics that make the game playable, nothing more.
Keep repeating yourself, Quan, not even you actually believe yourself on this one. haermm
You've backed down on 3/3 Battlezones since I've known you. Some shining star you are.
How will Voldemort overcome the ToP? If he cannot do so, he loses everytime.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I said they beat him. He was defeated despite being far more powerful. Being more powerful doesn't mean you are more formidable. this is just another example.
Completely different. Voldemort didn't lose in a contest of skill to Potter whereas Link bested him due to his skill. Dorf's sword wasn't tampered with nor did Link have a piece of Dorf's soul in him thus keeping him alive.
So you admit Dorf underestimates his foes. Good enough for me. He still lost.
Dorf uses a sword whereas Tom doesn't. I am not asking who is better with a wand Voldemort or Link I am saying with both combatants going at each other Link proved to be more skilled than Dorf despite the overwhelming experience edge in Dorf's favor. Si the conclusion I come to is this. If someone with a few weeks training can best Dorf in something he is familiar with then what will happen when the more experienced most badass wizard in a world of fictional wizards squares off against him. The competition is much greater there than in Hyrule so it's an easy conclusion to reach.
What overwhelming experience edge in Dorf's favour? Again nothing to do with a mage battle.
Originally posted by quanchi112
She was completely at his mercy. Tom also imo wanted to test Snape's loyalties and see how he reacted to this.
Tom was just rezzed and once he got to Harry and the duel began. He threw the avada kedavra immediately. No one in the films throws the curse more or even half as much as Voldemort. He also had limited screen time.
I am not arguing soon as the bell rings he throws the killing curse but it is a possibility given how often/quickly he's done so.
I don't think Dorf would hold back either but I don't see him possessing anything in his arsenal as dangerous as the killing curse.
Point of that was that both Dorf and Tom are not on the permanent guard, at times they're not focused on the full-out kill. Theres an equal chance that Tom would have been pulled into that portal too.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We don't know if he can reflect the killing curse. You assume he can but there's nothing to suggest he can. The only attack he repels is his one specific bolt which Link also can reflect. I also said it isn't in character in his own body to even try doing so since we don't have one single example of him doing so.
They have been reflected due to Harry Potter magic. Dorf doesn't have access to Harry Potter magic so the only conclusion you can reach is speculative at best. Yes, it can destroy horcruxes because it's powerful enough but not reflect the killing curse.
The one extra ability leaves him wide open to a death blow.
This tactic leaves him vulnerable. Not very wise against someone who specializes in mid range combat.
The sword can do so due to the venom, which destroys things. The sword does not have any ability that allows it to reflect magic nor have we see it attempted to do so.
Not the point, point was the blade can be charged. Main point is that even without that the blade is far superior to a normal blade in damage.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, this is still hyperbole. You are not understanding me. His statement only applies to Zeldaverse it doesn't apply to Potterverse. So in his own game nothing can defeat the top save the master sword, right ?
Something is either powerful enough or not. This is but that doesn't prove a thing when we start talking about other fictional universes.
The blade might deal out more damage but the wielder still needs to be experienced enough to do so.
The books aren't canon to the movies. The movies are canon to the books. They contradict each other and are not the same.
It has to do with the skill level of Dorf and his overall competency.
Canon lore, even if its the movie. Sword skill.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am only using this Dorf. We see this Dorf from the moment he gains favor from the top and then we see his return back to Hyrule. We then see him die. LOL.
I am replying to the complete picture here. He requires them as did Bo. Neither were superhuman studs separating themselves from the pack.
Being on a horse gives him an advantage. You can't have it both ways. If you really want to cling to the part of the game where arrows are not allowed to be used due to the game forcing you to swordfight him then you're dishonest. You know you are. Either way arrows hit him; canon.
Link isn't immune to weaker monsters. That's the point. Not that it has to happen but if it does then he obviously feels pain and can die.
So a four legged beast shows no advantage over a two legged dorf ? See what I mean. It's just blatant dishonesty at this point. If you can't see the difference in real life or the manner in which beast dorf moves as being far more athletic and faster then I can't help you. If you are going to lie to me and yourself there is nothing I can do.
They knocked it over like it was nothing. We see someone with far less size and power best them with boots on. That's an actual peer comparison and they fail. Giants are on another level. Link couldn't outwrestle or overpower the Giants with his boots on.
If you can't touch the glass you can't break it. They also have one shot kill methods which have nothing to do with overall durability.
The Golems are stabbing and using weapons not locking hands and seeing who is stronger. It's like me overpowering a 7 year old. Sure, I can do that all day but if he gets a knife it's going to cut into my flesh easily. You sound as if you can't comprehend the difference here.
What monsters are weak ? They all seem far more powerful than Zelda monsters. In oot one dragon could dominate the entire world. In Pottersville they are pets.
I know. And so am I seeing as this Dorf is the same character, person, entity, mind as the child timeline Dorf.
Besides Link having a bundle of higher feats done without the Boots, with that and the fact that Bo has no other feats showing that Link is far above him?
How is it an advantage if instead of seeing the arrow coming and dodging, like on foot, he has to somehow notice the arrow behind him and make his horse move equally as fast in both reaction and sudden sidewards movement? How are arrows not allowed if you're free to use them? How is it hitting him if Ganon dodges them too?
Youre comparing behind shot from behind and making his horse react too, to him flat out dodging. And more so that him dodging arrows is not canon but Link taking damage in gameplay is? Choosing one over the other.
A four legged beast that moves at speeds Dorf can replicate, yes, the reactions will be the same.. simple species facts that speed relates to reactions. Bonus is instant acceleration is faster with smaller bodies that large ones, a second fact.
Yet never shattered the stone blocks to pieces. Youre mixing a friendly wrestling match to outright killing which Bo did not face, Link. And Giants couldnt dent metal when Link can slice through metal.
Really? Because the fastest things in the HP verse brooms, and they're not faster than arrows. As seen in a war they don't evade or protect that much.
The Golum used blunt force, single hit. So I ask again, why does this make Gorons weak but not make Bo strong when Gorons have evidence to being strong and theres no evidence to Bo being weaker?
I said glass cannons, as in weak durability. Centaurs and Trolls have human+ durability given what they've taken. Even Giants are being toppled by things that are equal to or weaker than them, and all the did was topple stone. On the other hand we have Gorons and Shadow Beasts who can tank bombs, bombs which can blow up room size hunks of rocks. Glass canons because they don't have high durability.
Stats:
Hungarian Horntail- Biggest animal it hunts is cattle. Can breath fire hot enough to heat up rock.
Lava dragon Volvalga: Hunts and eats Gorons. Can breath fire as hot as lava. Can make a volcano erupt.
Its prey, its attacks and what it is capable of is greater than the Horntail. Oh, and it was controlled by Dorf.
Speaking of AK, whats the best thing its killed just so we can get a comparison and leave the no-limits area?
Stats:
Hungarian Horntail- Biggest animal it hunts is cattle. Can breath fire hot enough to heat up rock.
Lava dragon Volvalga: Hunts and eats Gorons. Can breath fire as hot as lava. Can make a volcano erupt.Its prey, its attacks and what it is capable of is greater than the Horntail. Oh, and it was controlled by Dorf.
Volvagia is actually confirmed in Hyrule Historia to be the third guardian spirit of the OoT era alongside the Deku Tree and Jabu Jabu. Given the power minor deities of the like have shown, (The Dragons in SS, the light spirits in TP having regional spanning power and in the dragons' cases destructive feats) Volvagia could probably single handedly dominate the Potterverse.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Volvagia is actually confirmed in Hyrule Historia to be the third guardian spirit of the OoT era alongside the Deku Tree and Jabu Jabu. Given the power minor deities of the like have shown, (The Dragons in SS, the light spirits in TP having regional spanning power and in the dragons' cases destructive feats) Volvagia could probably single handedly dominate the Potterverse.
Really? Damn, that's quite interesting. That further supports the theory that Valoo and Valvagia are related.
Originally posted by ares834It does indeed, it even mentions the connection.
Really? Damn, that's quite interesting. That further supports the theory that Valoo and Valvagia are related.
"After the land of Hyrule was sealed, there were spirits who guarded the three Pearls of the Goddesses that had a connection with the Tower of Gods. It is thought that these spirits are descendants from the spirits of the Hero of Time Era: the Great Deku Tree, Volvagia and Jabu-Jabu."
Originally posted by ScreamPasteThey all add up. They look at the entire game not just his highest feats which you and other fanboys tend to stick to like glue.
Your arguments don't make sense with one another. You're also strawmanning.Gameplay mechanics are just mechanics that make the game playable, nothing more.
Keep repeating yourself, Quan, not even you actually believe yourself on this one. haermm
You've backed down on 3/3 Battlezones since I've known you. Some shining star you are.
How will Voldemort overcome the ToP? If he cannot do so, he loses everytime.
This battlezone was accepted. Someone showed they actually had man parts unlike yourself. The Gabriel battlezone is one I will probably revisit in the future after I beat the second one. That's the thing with me when I am interested I just do it.
Then I can say I have done comic versus battlezones, movie character battlezone, a mixed genre battlezone, and then a video game battlezone. No one else can even say they have done 1/2 of that. I am the ultimate poster.
Originally posted by BloodRainIt is what it is. Just don't blame me when Hyrule falls. I gave anyone else the chance to argue on it's behalf. You were probably going to accept unlike Shin so I won't lord this over you.
Possibly defeating Nate's argument means nothing to the actual game verse and even less to my argument.But yes, a pause can be placed on our debate.. just because you asked so nicely :T
Originally posted by quanchi112I'm okay with you conceding this thread to hold back whatever your perceived aces are until you lose the next one.
I want to take the time now to respectfully decline to debate the zelda characters at this point. I have a battlezone coming up and don't want to let any aces I have been holding back slip out now. Just grap your popcorn in april because that's when I destroy Hyrule.
link-rape
Originally posted by quanchi112
I want to take the time now to respectfully decline to debate the zelda characters at this point. I have a battlezone coming up and don't want to let any aces I have been holding back slip out now. Just grap your popcorn in april because that's when I destroy Hyrule.
Looking foward to this in a devil's advocate kind of way 😉
Originally posted by ScreamPasteI am not conceding anything. I am putting this on hold until after my battlezone. You know the one you backed out of like a scared little girlie girl.
I'm okay with you [b]conceding this thread to hold back whatever your perceived aces are until you lose the next one.link-rape [/B]