Voldemort vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess) · Foreign Cinema

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You still haven't provded a feat that lets Russell harm Link. 😐 So, uh, no, lol. Until you provide that, Link draws his sword and Russell dies. It's pretty simple.
Do the boots make Link stronger, Quan?

Play the game. The guy can be hurt throughout his entire quest. Your whole he didn't die so he can't is the stuff of trollery.

Russell slaps his head off on top of the fact Russell has never exploded through sunlight yet.

It has also never been proven it covers a 30 ft. radius.

He needs them to stop the momentum whereas Russell needs nothing. Link is a gear whore.

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Cutscenes > gameplay mechanics.

Russell isn't strong enough.

It's been proven to clear away extradimensional magic fog at a distance of 30 feet, it could easily burn Russell at a far greater distance.

Do they make him stronger? Do not avoid the question.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Cutscenes > gameplay mechanics.
Russell isn't strong enough.
It's been proven to clear away extradimensional magic fog at a distance of 30 feet, it could easily burn Russell at a far greater distance.
Do they make him stronger? Do not avoid the question.

Both count. Fanboys try to only accept highest while ignoring other showings.

Yes, he is since multiple characters if not all of his enemies are weaker than he is.

So you speculate. How shocking.

They are needed for the feat whereas Russell doesn't need any gear for a strength feat.

NemeBro Senior Member

Link has strength feats without the Iron Boots.

Knocking away that huge slab of ice with the ball and chain for example.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by NemeBro
Link has strength feats without the Iron Boots.
Knocking away that huge slab of ice with the ball and chain for example.

I never said he didn't. he clearly needs the boots though when it comes the Gorons.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Both count. Fanboys try to only accept highest while ignoring other showings.
Yes, he is since multiple characters if not all of his enemies are weaker than he is.
So you speculate. How shocking.
They are needed for the feat whereas Russell doesn't need any gear for a strength feat.

No, gameplay mechanics are not canon, especially when they are inconsistant.

Link can stop 60ish tons in motion without being crushed, take axes to the face without damage, and overpower giant monsters, yet you seem to think a minor enemy is anything resembling a legimate threat based solely on the heart meter, a gameplay mechanic. haermm

Anywhore, bring a feat for Russell plz.

NemeBro Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he didn't. he clearly needs the boots though when it comes the Gorons.

But the feat with the ice is a better strength feat than the Goron ones and is better than Russel's as well.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by NemeBro
But the feat with the ice is a better strength feat than the Goron ones and is better than Russel's as well.

I don't argue by feats alone. Never have and never will. The reason I see Russell as being superior is his superior strength to super strong peers in his own universe on top of his strength feats.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, gameplay mechanics are not canon, [b]especially when they are inconsistant.
Link can stop 60ish tons in motion without being crushed, take axes to the face without damage, and overpower giant monsters, yet you seem to think a minor enemy is anything resembling a legimate threat based solely on the heart meter, a gameplay mechanic. haermm
Anywhore, bring a feat for Russell plz. [/B]

Everything in fiction is inconsistent. If someone punches me and I completely no sell it then you shouldn't argue I am immune to all physical force.

I already have but feats are simply one variable in the equation. You put all your stock in the higher ones while ignoring the lower ones. Mark of the fanboy.

Pwned That guy

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't argue by feats alone. Never have and never will. The reason I see Russell as being superior is his superior strength to super strong peers in his own universe on top of his strength feats.

Then get out of cross-genre matches that include multiple universes. Otherwise I could say, "Oh, well such and such is portrayed as stronger than the others!" And say he can beat the shit out of Superman, a prepped Batman, and SSJ 4 Gogeta.

You have no clue how to debate these apparently. Gtfo.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

Russell can hurt link, but he can't kill him BEFORE he gets his sword out. Which emits light that can kill the vamp. Unpowered master sword= Russell having a shot. Full powered MS= link barely trying.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Everything in fiction is inconsistent. If someone punches me and I completely no sell it then you shouldn't argue I am immune to all physical force.
I already have but feats are simply one variable in the equation. You put all your stock in the higher ones while ignoring the lower ones. Mark of the fanboy.

You keep repeating this like someone's actually argued it. Tanking the axe doesn't make Link indestructible, it makes him more durable than Russell can harm. dur

The 'low showings' you're attempting to use are non canon. haermm

Also, Nate, Russell legitimately has not had a feat posted that allows him to so much as scrape Link due to the sheer magnitude of the gap between their feats.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

Link can die in game. Saying he can't when swords and arrows do eventually is just ignorant. It does however take a long time and no one has shown the ability to one shot him though, which was what quan was arguing.

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Link can die in game. Saying he can't when swords and arrows do eventually is just ignorant. It does however take a long time and no one has shown the ability to one shot him though, which was what quan was arguing.

Except none of this is shown. What is shown is that Link can stop 60+ ton masses in motion, tank axes wielded by super humans to the face, ect. He can die, yeah, Ganondorf certainly has the physical power to do so, but Ganondorf is >>>>>> Russell.

Russell cannot compete with those forces. It's like comparing being hit by a train to someone attacking you with a wiffle bat.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

Wiffle bats hurt. Also he can't take extreme heat as lava is one of the few instakills link can't tank.

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Wiffle bats hurt. Also he can't take extreme heat as lava is one of the few instakills link can't tank.

In the Zora armour. Otherwise it just gives you the standard bottomless pit reset.

Wiffle bats hurt you or I, a little. They do not hurt people who can stop giant, rolling Gorons so heavy they shift the balance of the massive platform they're on, or take axes to the face from people who can toss rhinoes.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

A normal boblin was able to down link for a few seconds by bopping him on thehead. If link doesn't consciously brace himself, the impact does cause damage.

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
A normal boblin was able to down link for a few seconds by bopping him on thehead. If link doesn't consciously brace himself, the impact does cause damage.

That was early game. Literally before Link even had a tunic. A recurring theme in the game is Link's growing power, as literally outlined by the Hero's Shade many times.

Early on Link struggles a bit with goats, and a bop on the head with a stone mace will put him down.

Mid game he's stopping giant gorons, and walking around with over a hundred tons of weight on his feet, shooting arrows that can pierce diamonds, overpowering giant monsters, and tanking axe blows from the King of the Bulbins. (It is around this time the Hero's Shade tells him he's unworthy to wear the tunic.)

Late game he's knocking around hundreds of tons of ice, and overpowers Ganondorf, albeit while the latter is weakened. It's just before he does this that the Hero's Shade finally acknowledges TP Link's power.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

Strength is not simply the absence of weakness.

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Strength is not simply the absence of weakness.

A good parable, but not really relevant here. 😛

Early game Link and End game Link are very different animals. Link 'bracing' against that axe blow wouldn't have changed whether or not the axe could injure him.

To be as blunt as I can about the wide margin between Edgington and Link, I was being fairly literal when I made the train wreck comparison. Ganondorf is as strong or stronger than OoT Link was with the Golden Gauntlets. (Causal class 100+) The clash between TP Link and Ganondorf at the end of the game would have been hard to quantify but are certainly well above building destruction level. Link's true 'high end' is there. I've done the math on it before, and the pressure their bodies would be under with both applying their full strength would be the lulz.

It's just not relevant to this thread, where Link's lower and middle of the road feats are enough.