Originally posted by quanchi112Strawman.
By this rationale Superman is stronger than Galactus. Horrific way to debate.
Originally posted by quanchi112The vids weren't even posted by you to begin with and the feats within were not enough to be worth notice. Edgington has not had a feat provided that lets him hurt Link.
The poster has seen the vids before but I don't need to hold everyone's hand here.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteIt shows you how horrible the logic is to only look at feats.
Strawman. The vids weren't even posted by you to begin with [b]and the feats within were not enough to be worth notice. Edgington has not had a feat provided that lets him hurt Link. [/B]
You downplay and pretend Link can do things he has never done before in the game. Look out everybody here comes a fanboy.
Except that unlike either DC or Marvel, Trueblood lacks any provided feats that would even matter with powerscaling. Huzzah.
Provide some feat that would let Edgington hurt someone who can tank axes to the face without damage. Or provide a feat of him surviving direct sunlight, actually since he's not likely to ever reach Link. Or you know, provide a feat at all.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteWrong. They live in a world that deals with modern weaponry, other supernatural creatures, and actual superspeed. You ignore it all because you are a fanboy. You ignore Link's own portrayal and stick to canon cutscenes only due to being a fanboy.
Except that unlike either DC or Marvel, Trueblood lacks any provided feats that would even matter [b]with powerscaling. Huzzah.Provide some feat that would let Edgington hurt someone who can tank axes to the face without damage. Or provide a feat of him surviving direct sunlight, actually since he's not likely to ever reach Link. Or you know, provide a feat at all. [/B]
You have already admitted Link isn't immune to axes so there's no need.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. They live in a world that deals with modern weaponry, other supernatural creatures, and actual superspeed. You ignore it all because you are a fanboy. You ignore Link's own portrayal and stick to canon cutscenes only due to being a fanboy.You have already admitted Link isn't immune to axes so there's no need.
And yes, I do stick to canon cutscenes over gameplay mechanics, thank you.
Oh look at this guy, trying to put words in my mouth. If Ganondorf had an axe he could hurt Link with it, Ganondorf is literally thousands of times stronger than Edgington. Thousands.
Provide a feat for Edgington that would let him even hurt his opposition, just try.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteSee what I mean. I guess guns aren't as impressive as bow and arrows. You are ridic.
Lol 'modern day weaponry'. Not impressive.And yes, I do stick to [b]canon cutscenes
over gameplay mechanics, thank you.Oh look at this guy, trying to put words in my mouth. If Ganondorf had an axe he could hurt Link with it, Ganondorf is literally thousands of times stronger than Edgington. Thousands.
Provide a feat for Edgington that would let him even hurt his opposition, just try. [/B]
They are both valid. That's the thing I don't make exceptions only the fanboys do.
The whole issue is the axe. If Link is immune the axe won't hurt him but since he isn't it will.
It's already been done. He rips through his chest.
Originally posted by quanchi112
See what I mean. I guess guns aren't as impressive as bow and arrows. You are ridic.They are both valid. That's the thing I don't make exceptions only the fanboys do.
The whole issue is the axe. If Link is immune the axe won't hurt him but since he isn't it will.
It's already been done. He rips through his chest.
"I'm trying to use non canon mechanics to low ball, but ScreamPaste is the fanboy!" lol.
Lolwut. No, that's not how durability works. Link is immune to people of Russell's strength, whether they have an axe or not. Russell is not strong enough to hurt him. Post a feat proving otherwise or drop it. It really is that simple.
Originally posted by quanchi112
By this rationale Superman is stronger than Galactus. Horrific way to debate.
Your non-sequitur has no power over me boy. Galactus has showings against others and status to portray him as vastly physically stronger than one such as Superman.
Russel does not have the same over Link.
What feats does any vampire in TB have that compare to Link's feat of smacking the iceberg?
Originally posted by quanchi112
The whole issue is the axe. If Link is immune the axe won't hurt him but since he isn't it will.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not in all directions and if so you need to prove it.It does mean something since we can't see his movements with our own eyes and neither can Jason.
I am saying with someone he wants to drain he was careful. Someone he just wants to kill he will kill quickly and effectively.
The majority of the time we can see them moving, sans a select few times. I'm not disagreeing with the fact that vamps above Bill can blitz humans without them noticing, but that specific scene when a character is blindsided is not a reaction/speed feat based on that.
(Note: Humans, not Link.)
Be careful with what? He didn't pull any precondition, make a plan or get some information out of her.. all thats needed was to run up and bite her. That fairy, Bill trying to stake him, toying around with Bill before he going to kill him, having that confrontation before staking Roman.. pauses
Also you said 'someone he just wants to kill', meaning bloodlusted, and bloodlusted is not in character which is something you support in debates. He rarely ever goes for the instant kill.
Besides that light emits from a source, not focusing like a laser? Dug around;
YouTube video
8:30- First example.
9:34- Compared to Link's height that Sol is near half his Link's height, so about 0.9m.
9:55- Best example. At this time we can see that the Fog is gone, at the right of it looking through that 'glass'. Measuring its 12.5 times the Sol's size up to the closest point of the fog.. 12.5*0.9m = 11.25m = just about 37 ft.
A few seconds later we see it disperse the whole room of Fog.
Exact same as with the sword, just that for seeing the size and scale this is the best example.
Basically a 10 meter radius of light around Link.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteDepends on the guns. They have used rocket launchers before and modern weaponry>>>gorons>>>stone.
Last I checked guns can't shatter solid stone, unlike say, Gorons. Or send hundreds of tons flying. Or blow up castles. Ect."I'm trying to use non canon mechanics to low ball, but ScreamPaste is the fanboy!" lol.
Lolwut. No, that's not how durability works. Link [b]is
immune to people of Russell's strength, whether they have an axe or not. Russell is not strong enough to hurt him. Post a feat proving otherwise or drop it. It really is that simple. [/B]
Two characters blowing up a castle is impressive but it takes two to do so and we see far less collateral damage wise kill him so hardly relevant.
Link isn't immune to any of his enemies despite your spinning of a few cutscenes.
Originally posted by NemeBroSuch as ?
Your non-sequitur has no power over me boy. Galactus has showings against others and status to portray him as vastly physically stronger than one such as Superman.Russel does not have the same over Link.
What feats does any vampire in TB have that compare to Link's feat of smacking the iceberg?
You still don't get it. feats don't make the Gladiator immune to Wolverine's attacks portrayals do. Just because Gladiator destroys a planet doesn't mean we ignore what has hurt him in the past. That's essentially what the video game crowd says which is silly.
Russell is stronger than the majority of Link's enemies all of which who can hurt him. It's that simple.
Originally posted by BloodRainIt's one scene in which he survives it doesn't show an immunity to. Just like shrugging of a punch doesn't mean no punch can ever hurt a guy.
Getting hit by an axe from a guy with strength above Russell's and 'surviving' is impressive, and says a lot for this thread.The majority of the time we can see them moving, sans a select few times. I'm not disagreeing with the fact that vamps above Bill can blitz humans without them noticing, but that specific scene when a character is blindsided is not a reaction/speed feat based on that.
(Note: Humans, not Link.)Be careful with what? He didn't pull any precondition, make a plan or get some information out of her.. all thats needed was to run up and bite her. That fairy, Bill trying to stake him, toying around with Bill before he going to kill him, having that confrontation before staking Roman.. pauses
Also you said 'someone he just wants to kill', meaning bloodlusted, and bloodlusted is not in character which is something you support in debates. He rarely ever goes for the instant kill.Besides that light emits from a source, not focusing like a laser? Dug around;
YouTube video
8:30- First example.
9:34- Compared to Link's height that Sol is near half his Link's height, so about 0.9m.
9:55- Best example. At this time we can see that the Fog is gone, at the right of it looking through that 'glass'. Measuring its 12.5 times the Sol's size up to the closest point of the fog.. 12.5*0.9m = 11.25m = just about 37 ft.
A few seconds later we see it disperse the whole room of Fog.Exact same as with the sword, just that for seeing the size and scale this is the best example.
Basically a 10 meter radius of light around Link.
The human still isn't fast enough to perceive his movements so it doesn't matter. If I am aware of someone about to fire a gun at me can I dodge the bullet ?
As soon as he knew he was free and powerful enough he put Roman in a vulnerable position to kill him. He'd either kill Link initially or do so.
This is still a guesstimation on your end and by no means official. Russell still reacts before Link can do anything. he either puts him in a vulnerable position, bites him, or slaps his head off. Link can't stop the bullet so to speak once the gun goes off either.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Such as ?
Well for one thing, he's a ****ing abstract being.
For another, he's manhandled Thor with all the casual ease I might manhandle a small kitten.
You still don't get it. feats don't make the Gladiator immune to Wolverine's attacks portrayals do. Just because Gladiator destroys a planet doesn't mean we ignore what has hurt him in the past. That's essentially what the video game crowd says which is silly.
Wolverine has hurt almost anything with his claws, terrible example, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Videogames are not comic books. Comic books have hundreds of different writers, of varying ability, and varying interpretation of the power of the characters. Videogames don't.
That is not what the videogame crowd says, you're committing a strawman fallacy.
Russell is stronger than the majority of Link's enemies all of which who can hurt him. It's that simple.
Prove he is stronger than the majority of Link's enemies.
If you go by gameplay, Link fights creatures physically far stronger than Russel, by virtue of either their size or feats. Yet, they all only do what? Three hearts of damage at most?
Clearly Russel can do nothing to someone so powerful, much less "rip his head off".
Link with the ball of chain feat proves he is far too strong for Russel to endure, and Link's cannon-landing feat proves he is far too durable for Russel to reliably injure.
Originally posted by quanchi112Show me a vampire tanking a rocket launcher. Also lol @ the idea of a standard RPG being more destructive than an angry Goron. Cutscenes and canon events show Link to be extremely durable. Gameplay mechanics are noncanon. This is simple. Even if Link's enemies can hurt Link, that would make them strong, not Link weak, since Link's durability is thoroughly established.
Depends on the guns. They have used rocket launchers before and modern weaponry>>>gorons>>>stone.Two characters blowing up a castle is impressive but it takes two to do so and we see far less collateral damage wise kill him so hardly relevant.
Link isn't immune to any of his enemies despite your spinning of a few cutscenes.
tldr: your argument basically assumes Zelda's mooks are > Edgington. haermm
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's one scene in which he survives it doesn't show an immunity to. Just like shrugging of a punch doesn't mean no punch can ever hurt a guy.The human still isn't fast enough to perceive his movements so it doesn't matter. If I am aware of someone about to fire a gun at me can I dodge the bullet ?
As soon as he knew he was free and powerful enough he put Roman in a vulnerable position to kill him. He'd either kill Link initially or do so.
This is still a guesstimation on your end and by no means official. Russell still reacts before Link can do anything. he either puts him in a vulnerable position, bites him, or slaps his head off. Link can't stop the bullet so to speak once the gun goes off either.
And Link =/= those normal humans.
So he needed to get Roman into a position to kill him, even though he can decapitate vamps? He needed to get into a position with Fairy to bite her after she stood there and shot at him twice, even though he's much faster than her? What about allowing Bill to get within staking range before defending? Burning Bill's face before going to kill him?.. When in the fights start has he ever gone right for the kill? You want to talk in character, talk in character; Russell doesn't instantly go to kill Link who will draw his sword right awar, as per their characters.
Haha what? The vid is right there. Even if you want to ignore the numbers you can't ignore that compared to Link that's a sizeable area of light surrounding him, several times larger than Link himself. Ignore the numbers, the area of light is still there.
Originally posted by NemeBroSo now an abstract being means you are strong ? Wrong. That's just a title. When did Galactus mandhandle Thor physically ?
Well for one thing, he's a ****ing abstract being.For another, he's manhandled Thor with all the casual ease I might manhandle a small kitten.
Wolverine has hurt almost anything with his claws, terrible example, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Videogames are not comic books. Comic books have hundreds of different writers, of varying ability, and varying interpretation of the power of the characters. Videogames don't.
That is not what the videogame crowd says, you're committing a strawman fallacy.
Prove he is stronger than the majority of Link's enemies.
If you go by gameplay, Link fights creatures physically far stronger than Russel, by virtue of either their size or feats. Yet, they all only do what? Three hearts of damage at most?
Clearly Russel can do nothing to someone so powerful, much less "rip his head off".
Link with the ball of chain feat proves he is far too strong for Russel to endure, and Link's cannon-landing feat proves he is far too durable for Russel to reliably injure.
By your logic feats means he can't hurt him since Glads can punch planets into dust. That's how stupid your feat mongering is. It always has been. You are a follower of the vs gamers who seem to be in the stone age of evolution.
Videogames have all kinds of different people working on them and don't need to have everything add up. It's about making money and creating drama. You really lack a fundmental understanding when it comes to fiction in general.
Wolverine isn't anywhere near as strong as Gladiator yet he can cut him. Mere goats can knock Link on his ass. Now you want me to assume a superstrong 3,000 vampire can't faze Link ? It's absurd and ridiculous.