Voldemort vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

Started by BloodRain94 pages

HP teens are, unless something proves otherwise.

Originally posted by BloodRain
HP teens are, unless something proves otherwise.
The burden is on you. All you can do in a debate is prove a certain characters reflexes. You can't just generalize everyone in this regard. Quicker than Zelda characters.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To certain magic but not physical swords which always cut him. Ms specific magic negates his. Mirror negated his as well.

You have no evidence that "specific magic" is even a thing that exists.


Prove the executioners sword is magical.

It glows, it leaves a glowing wound, it can fly and stab people by itself. The Sage's made it.


I was referring to the master sword impaling him. Way to waste your time without understanding my point. 😂

Link impaled his ass despite Dorf having a sword of his own. 🙂

My mistake, then. Here, I'll adjust the response: You are aware that Ganondorf was fighting a 3 vs. 1 battle against people exploiting his weaknesses, right? And that the Master Sword is one of his weaknesses and can negate his powers? After he'd been peppered with Fused Shadows and Light Arrows for four fights?


Ak is faster than Link swinging a sword. 🙂

Prove it.

Originally posted by The Scenario
You have no evidence that "specific magic" is even a thing that exists.

It glows, it leaves a glowing wound, it can fly and stab people by itself. The Sage's made it.

My mistake, then. Here, I'll adjust the response: You are aware that Ganondorf was fighting a 3 vs. 1 battle against people exploiting his weaknesses, right? And that the Master Sword is one of his weaknesses and can negate his powers? After he'd been peppered with Fused Shadows and Light Arrows for four fights?

Prove it.

Specific magic is magic which performs a specific function other than pure force.

Dorfs top stopped it by that. Not the sword. You don't have a single reference to establish it being magical just more speculation.

I am aware a one on one fight took place in which he stabbed him. Links skill owned him in a fair one on one fight.

Watch the clips. Watch Link swing a sword. Not fast.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Specific magic is magic which performs a specific function other than pure force.

Neither the Light Arrows nor the Fused Shadows are pure force.


Dorfs top stopped it by that. Not the sword. You don't have a single reference to establish it being magical just more speculation.

What part of glowing sword implies it is nonmagical to you?


I am aware a one on one fight took place in which he stabbed him. Links skill owned him in a fair one on one fight.

So you admit to ignorance of the four fights that happened immediately prior?


Watch the clips. Watch Link swing a sword. Not fast.

Well by that standard AK isn't fast either.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Neither the Light Arrows nor the Fused Shadows are pure force.

What part of glowing sword implies it is nonmagical to you?

So you admit to ignorance of the four fights that happened immediately prior?

Well by that standard AK isn't fast either.

They are pure force when they strike Dorf.

Things glow all the time that doesn't mean they are magic.

Dorf showed no mobility issues and lost. Quit demeaning links victory.

Faster than the sword. Definitely.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I did.

Watch the movies. Quit begging.

The wand was breaking just by him using magic with it. 😂 he didn't want to break it in half physically which is entirely something different. Apples and oranges, simpleton.

A spell kids used. If you had a shred of common sense you'd realize what it is I'm talking about. Clod.

Due to him believing ten percent was not enough for his opinion on the characters. He believed I outdebated him though which is the point. I did and it was rather obvious, Mr. Never done anything.


No, you didn't. 😬

The movies don't agree with you.

Using powerful magic and your hands are 2 very different things. Not to mention that was largely because he wasn't its true owner.

Which kids?

So you agree with him that the power gap between Ganon and Russell is so great that it overrides your allegedly better debating skill?

Originally posted by Epicurus
No, you didn't. 😬

The movies don't agree with you.

Using powerful magic and your hands are 2 very different things. Not to mention that was largely because he wasn't its true owner.

Which kids?

So you agree with him that the power gap between Ganon and Russell is so great that it overrides your allegedly better debating skill?

Yes, I did,

Yes, they do.

You acted like breaking a wand is hard. It isn't. Voldemort didn't want to break it anyways so you don't make any sense.

Ron.

I don't agree with his opinion there but he knew I outdebated scenario. It was pretty obvious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They are pure force when they strike Dorf.

Prove it.


Things glow all the time that doesn't mean they are magic.

Not all things are holy blades made by Sages either. It also flies and stabs people by itself.


Dorf showed no mobility issues and lost. Quit demeaning links victory.

So you think Ganondorf shrugged off his own magic, Fused Shadows, Light Arrows, and Master Sword strikes with absolutely no loss of ability?

Why do you think he loses again?


Faster than the sword. Definitely.

Evidence?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The burden is on you. All you can do in a debate is prove a certain characters reflexes. You can't just generalize everyone in this regard. Quicker than Zelda characters.
As you're saying you have to probe reflexes first, and you haven't, that leaves them as what we know: normal human speed. And as trained swordsmen, peak human is a least. Even if you dispute that, I could drop them to human speed too and they would equal HP. Meaning they have equal to react and counter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I did,

Yes, they do.

You acted like breaking a wand is hard. It isn't. Voldemort didn't want to break it anyways so you don't make any sense.

Ron.

I don't agree with his opinion there but he knew I outdebated scenario. It was pretty obvious.


No, you didn't.

No, they don't.

I acted that it was easy enough that a weakling teen could do it with his bare hand. Voldemort achieved a much smaller feat(cracks in the wand) by using powerful magic. Which means Voldemort is full of fail. 👇

When did Ron ever use a spell which renders, and I am paraphrasing here, the Twilight Sword utterly useless? Was there some secret crossover between the Legend of Zelda and Harry Potter which we all missed and which only you were privy to?

You don't agree with his opinion which is predictable since you are the hypocritical hilarity known as the Quanchi; but at the end of the day his opinion resulted in Scene getting the winning vote. Double-edged sword is double-edged sword.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Prove it.

Not all things are holy blades made by Sages either. It also flies and stabs people by itself.

So you think Ganondorf shrugged off his own magic, Fused Shadows, Light Arrows, and Master Sword strikes with absolutely no loss of ability?

Why do you think he loses again?

Evidence?

What specific point of the spell does anything other than exert force to another object.

We don't see Dorf resist any blades unscathed so you cannot make that claim.

I feel like he was fine in the sword duel at the end. That is exactly how he was portrayed. 😂

Watch the movies.

Originally posted by BloodRain
As you're saying you have to probe reflexes first, and you haven't, that leaves them as what we know: normal human speed. And as trained swordsmen, peak human is a least. Even if you dispute that, I could drop them to human speed too and they would equal HP. Meaning they have equal to react and counter.
We see the reflexes are faster than the time it takes a sword to move towards an object. We see the speed in which the beams travel from the possessed Zelda at far slower speeds than a Potter blast.

Originally posted by Epicurus
No, you didn't.

No, they don't.

I acted that it was easy enough that a weakling teen could do it with his bare hand. Voldemort achieved a much smaller feat(cracks in the wand) by using powerful magic. Which means Voldemort is full of fail. 👇

When did Ron ever use a spell which renders, and I am paraphrasing here, the Twilight Sword utterly useless? Was there some secret crossover between the Legend of Zelda and Harry Potter which we all missed and which only you were privy to?

You don't agree with his opinion which is predictable since you are the hypocritical hilarity known as the Quanchi; but at the end of the day his opinion resulted in Scene getting the winning vote. Double-edged sword is double-edged sword.

You are wrong as always.

No, the wand resisted him as the wands choose the wizards. You basically know nothing at all of this universe. Voldemort wasn't trying to break the wand in half so comparing him to another whose goal was to destroy the wand is full of failure.

Ron never met with the sword but a simple spell cast by him can take the sword away. 😂

Outdebated him and maximized my character more mr. Guy who sleeps with ex gf.....right buddy. We believe you.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see the reflexes are faster than the time it takes a sword to move towards an object. We see the speed in which the beams travel from the possessed Zelda at far slower speeds than a Potter blast.
Are you saying that LoZ have sub-human speed/reflexes?

He's relying on "it looked slow so it is slow"?

:galacticryoma

Gannondorf closed the distance of about 10 meters in a split second and killed the sage of water by touching his face!!!

Oh sorry are we meant to use the slowest feat?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Are you saying that LoZ have sub-human speed/reflexes?
Seeing the spells and what not as being far slower in the Zelda universe as well as the reflexes.

So thats a yes? You believe LoZ all have sub-human speed?

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Gannondorf closed the distance of about 10 meters in a split second and killed the sage of water by touching his face!!!

Oh sorry are we meant to use the slowest feat?

The sage stood there and he caught one unsuspecting sage off guard. Far, far slower in combat against Link.