Voldemort vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

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Originally posted by The Scenario
Ganondorf was hit multiple times with his own magic reflected by the Master Sword, then forcibly removed from Zelda's body by Midna crushing him out.

After that he fought Midna and Link at the same time and had his body burst into flames and be destroyed.

Then Midna exploded a castle on his face.

After that, he fought both Link and Zelda on horseback, with the Light Spirits backing them up via Light Arrows.

It was only after several consecutive fights of being ganged up on by multiple people wielding powerful magic and weakness exploitation, that he finally fought against just Link. And you actually think that was a fair fight?

Yes, Link inflicted damage.

Speculation. He defeated Midna and then lost to Link.

Voldemort had his Horcruxes destroyed by various people. The wand he Wielded wasn't truly his against Harry who also had a piece of Voldemort's soul inside of him.

Ganondorf lost a sword duel against him to lose. Link was beaten in the game by Zant and his henchmen but he killed Dorf all the same.

Link who only had a few weeks experience defeated him in fair combat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, Link inflicted damage.

Speculation. He defeated Midna and then lost to Link.

Voldemort had his Horcruxes destroyed by various people. The wand he Wielded wasn't truly his against Harry who also had a piece of Voldemort's soul inside of him.

Ganondorf lost a sword duel against him to lose. Link was beaten in the game by Zant and his henchmen but he killed Dorf all the same.

Link who only had a few weeks experience defeated him in fair combat.

Ganondorf fought 3 people and 4 Light Spirits. By the time he fought Link he had been injured multiple times by the Master Sword and Light Arrows, as well as taken hits from the Fused Shadows. While Link was never canonically hit.

So you think that the guy who was taking hits all day from weakness exploitation vs. the guy who was completely uninjured is a fair fight?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Allowing someone else to kill him means the wand would belong to Snape. The wand doesn't care if you intentionally lose but if you lose the wand goes to the person who beats you. He still willingly lost to Draco as in disarmed. The wand belonged to him whether he fought back or not. It's like when you thought she used the super nova attack. You're a child.

The wand resisted him because he wasn't the rightful owner. Harry was the rightful owner. Voldemort also didn't try to snap it in half. You're simple.

Dorf was killed by a teenager in combat.
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Voldemort was never the rightful ruler of his wand and already had previously defeated Harry. Dorf just lost multiple times to a teenager with a few weeks experience unlike Harry who had years of training. You're an awful debater.

You need to prove it doesn't work. Spell works so if you believe it doesn't work prove it. Debating 101.

10 percent superior and I already explained why he did. If you can't grasp the answers don't ask the questions.

Dorf lost to a teenager in fair combat with a few weeks training.

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It wouldn't, because Snape didn't actually best him and take the wand against his will. He was just doing what Dumbledore wanted him to do. That's how this works in Potterlore. The wand already had a bloody history, Dumbledore didn't want it falling in the wrong hands all over again. That was one of the main points of him plotting his death at Snape's hands, you buffoon. He didn't "willingly" lose to Draco, you twit, Draco disarming him was out of the blue. He basically caught Dumbledore off-guard, and the wand was removed against his will, which is why it shifted its allegiance to Malfoy. You don't even have the first clue about how the HPverse functions.

The wand was broken by a teenage half-wit. The very same wand which Voldy failed to subjugate to his will. Awful showing.

That same teenager sh1ts all over Harry Potter and his piss-poor feats. That same teen would pretty much solo Voldy on his lonesome.

No, I don't need to prove a negative. Debating201. A step-up from the imaginary third grade course that you took part in.

You mean to say the time when you conceded that Ganon was an inherently more powerful character than Russell? Is that what you're talking about, since Digi too believes that Dorf is far above Russell in terms of raw power.

Ganondorf, the herald-level threat, demolishes the fail meta-level dark lord from a weaksauce universe of dimwitted teenagers. 👆

Originally posted by The Scenario
Ganondorf fought 3 people and 4 Light Spirits. By the time he fought Link he had been injured multiple times by the Master Sword and Light Arrows, as well as taken hits from the Fused Shadows. While Link was never canonically hit.

So you think that the guy who was taking hits all day from weakness exploitation vs. the guy who was completely uninjured is a fair fight?

Ganondorf wasn't fighting the light spirits they were weapons against him. Link obviously is a superior combatant to Dorf. That is the point. He showed more skill than Dorf. He crushed him in a fair fight.

Voldemort was weakened by every Horcrux being destroyed. Voldemort was flat out superior to Harry who had years of experience and still beat him. Dorf lost to someone with less than one month of experience in embarrassing fashion.

Originally posted by Epicurus
It wouldn't, because Snape didn't actually best him and take the wand against his will. He was just doing what Dumbledore wanted him to do. That's how this works in Potterlore. The wand already had a bloody history, Dumbledore didn't want it falling in the wrong hands all over again. That was one of the main points of him plotting his death at Snape's hands, you buffoon. He didn't "willingly" lose to Draco, you twit, Draco disarming him was out of the blue. He basically caught Dumbledore off-guard, and the wand was removed against his will, which is why it shifted its allegiance to Malfoy. You don't even have the first clue about how the HPverse functions.

The wand was broken by a teenage half-wit. The very same wand which Voldy failed to subjugate to his will. Awful showing.

That same teenager sh1ts all over Harry Potter and his piss-poor feats. That same teen would pretty much solo Voldy on his lonesome.

No, I don't need to prove a negative. Debating201. A step-up from the imaginary third grade course that you took part in.

You mean to say the time when you conceded that Ganon was an inherently more powerful character than Russell? Is that what you're talking about, since Digi too believes that Dorf is far above Russell in terms of raw power.

Ganondorf, the herald-level threat, demolishes the fail meta-level dark lord from a weaksauce universe of dimwitted teenagers. 👆

You're being awfully emotional. Dumbledore was not fighting back so he wasn't caught off guard.

"But should he fail the dark lord will turn to you." Basically, if Draco lacked the stomach to do so then he wanted to Snape to do so to gain his trust. Albus expected Snape to be the rightful ruler of his wand but no one foresaw Draco disarming him. Only those present will knowledge would be aware of this. I understand it completely whereas you're an inept debater.

Harry was the rightful ruler. Voldemort didn't want to break the wand and ruin it. Quit saying stupid things.

No, he couldn't. A few simple spells defeat Link. Kid has a sword. Laughably weak universe.

Digi believes 10 percent better than scenario wasn't enough but that I outdebated him nonetheless.

People who try to categorize and avoid any real sign of debating are horribly inept and a lemming.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ganondorf wasn't fighting the light spirits they were weapons against him. Link obviously is a superior combatant to Dorf. That is the point. He showed more skill than Dorf. He crushed him in a fair fight.

Voldemort was weakened by every Horcrux being destroyed. Voldemort was flat out superior to Harry who had years of experience and still beat him. Dorf lost to someone with less than one month of experience in embarrassing fashion.

Yeah, Ganondorf was under attack from the spirits that banished a race, sealed a castle destroying power, nearly killed Midna casually, and exploit a weakness of Ganondorf's. In addition to fighting Midna and the castle busting Fused Shadows. And in addition to that, Link had the Master Sword, another weapon designed to counter Ganondorf.

Keep saying 3 vs. 1 is a fair fight. It amuses me.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Yeah, Ganondorf was under attack from the spirits that banished a race, sealed a castle destroying power, nearly killed Midna casually, and exploit a weakness of Ganondorf's. In addition to fighting Midna and the castle busting Fused Shadows. And in addition to that, Link had the Master Sword, another weapon designed to counter Ganondorf.

Keep saying 3 vs. 1 is a fair fight. It amuses me.

They were inanimate objects they used to wound him. Ganondorf had a weapon to aid him in power and resisting durability deaths but somehow let's excuse a weapon used to counter this. Such bias.

Midna fought him one on one. Dorf used Zelda's body which put Link at an extreme disadvantage but Link still bested him there and saved her..

Link ended up saving Zelda and beating him in a one on one sword duel.

Link overcame all these odds and no one died except Ganondorf despite his lack of experience and your age.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were inanimate objects they used to wound him. Ganondorf had a weapon to aid him in power and resisting durability deaths but somehow let's excuse a weapon used to counter this. Such bias.

Midna fought him one on one. Dorf used Zelda's body which put Link at an extreme disadvantage but Link still bested him there and saved her..

Link ended up saving Zelda and beating him in a one on one sword duel.

Link overcame all these odds and no one died except Ganondorf despite his lack of experience and your age.

So you're willing to admit Ganondorf may have been injured before fighting Link one on one? You know that Ganondorf fought Link, then got attacked by Midna, then fought a Link/Midna team up, then fought Midna, then fought a Link/Zelda team up plus the Light Spirits, and only after that did he swordfight Link one on one.

Triforce of Courage + Master Sword + Fused Shadows + Light Arrows vs. Triforce of Power is a fair fight to you?

Originally posted by The Scenario
So you're willing to admit Ganondorf may have been injured before fighting Link one on one? You know that Ganondorf fought Link, then got attacked by Midna, then fought a Link/Midna team up, then fought Midna, then fought a Link/Zelda team up plus the Light Spirits, and only after that did he swordfight Link one on one.

Triforce of Courage + Master Sword + Fused Shadows + Light Arrows vs. Triforce of Power is a fair fight to you?

You don't believe so. I believe he took damage but not to the point where he was massively impeded during his sword fight.

They all weren't used together. I don't believe it was fair to possess a soulless Zelda who link couldn't kill. Link still overcame his minion Zant along with his army to get to Dorf who in the end lost a sword duel.

Link crushed him. You said he canonically didn't take a hit. Shameful loss.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't believe so. I believe he took damage but not to the point where he was massively impeded during his sword fight.

They all weren't used together. I don't believe it was fair to possess a soulless Zelda who link couldn't kill. Link still overcame his minion Zant along with his army to get to Dorf who in the end lost a sword duel.

Link crushed him. You said he canonically didn't take a hit. Shameful loss.

Okay, so let me get this straight: You believe that Ganondorf took damage from the Master Sword, the Fused Shadows, the Light Arrows, his own magic reflected at him, having his beast body destroyed, and he was not impeded by this?

I'm glad you think so highly of Ganondorf, it really is pretty impressive.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Okay, so let me get this straight: You believe that Ganondorf took damage from the Master Sword, the Fused Shadows, the Light Arrows, his own magic reflected at him, having his beast body destroyed, and he was not impeded by this?

I'm glad you think so highly of Ganondorf, it really is pretty impressive.

Master sword ended him. Light arrows hurt but didn't impede him. His movement nor any of his actions in the canon scenes suggest he was significantly wounded to impede his skills with a sword.

I believe he was schooled by someone overcoming all the odds. Dorf was the antagonist not the hero. Dorf showed up and was slapped down by the sages. Shows up again and gets slapped down by Link.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Master sword ended him.

Weakness exploitation.

Light arrows hurt but didn't impede him.

His movement nor any of his actions in the canon scenes suggest he was significantly wounded to impede his skills with a sword.


I believe he was schooled by someone overcoming all the odds. Dorf was the antagonist not the hero. Dorf showed up and was slapped down by the sages. Shows up again and gets slapped down by Link.

Overcame all odds? So you just think Link got lucky?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Weakness exploitation.

Overcame all odds? So you just think Link got lucky?

No, the Master Sword ended him because it was lodged into him and dispelled his magic.

Yes, it slowed him down on horseback but didn't impede him in the sword fight which I specifically referenced.

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Dorf had recovered and just flat out lost. One on one he was defeated.

Link overcame more odds whereas Ganondorf got beat every time he showed up and was being naughty relatively quickly.

Why is the Master Sword, something more powerful than every wizard in the HPverse combined, supposed to be relevant to Voldemort getting raped?

Voldemort tries to AK, Ganon backhands it back to him. Voldmort teleports away, Ganon follows him and snaps his head off. There's no possibility of victory for Voldemort here.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Why is the Master Sword, something more powerful than every wizard in the HPverse combined, supposed to be relevant to Voldemort getting raped?

Voldemort tries to AK, Ganon backhands it back to him. Voldmort teleports away, Ganon follows him and snaps his head off. There's no possibility of victory for Voldemort here.

It isn't more powerful. It can be blocked by other blades and isn't anything that special.

Nah, it kills him just like the Mirror bfr'd him and the master sword killed him.

Voldemort crushes him.

It is more powerful. It's a planetary artifact that can cut entire continents out of the Earth in single strikes.

Ganon bats any of Voldemort's spells back, Voldemort lacks the power to effect him.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It is more powerful. It's a planetary artifact that can cut entire continents out of the Earth in single strikes.

Ganon bats any of Voldemort's spells back, Voldemort lacks the power to effect him.

Not in Tp. Can be blocked and parried throughout the entire game.

Nah. One spell and he dies.

By the Sages sword, nothing less.

All evidence disagrees with you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the Master Sword ended him because it was lodged into him and dispelled his magic.

Which is his weakness, I'm glad you agree.


Yes, it slowed him down on horseback but didn't impede him in the sword fight which I specifically referenced.

Nothing says it stopped impeding him at any point. Really, him getting hit with the Light Arrows and Master Sword is a big deal.


Dorf had recovered and just flat out lost. One on one he was defeated.

Yes, Ganondorf recovered from bodily destruction, castle exploding, and hits from the Light Arrows and Master Sword. How does Voldemort think he can beat that again?


Link overcame more odds whereas Ganondorf got beat every time he showed up and was being naughty relatively quickly.

You keep saying Link got lucky. Why?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
By the Sages sword, nothing less.

All evidence disagrees with you.

And any other sword in the game.

Parried canonically.

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