Bane & Zannah vs Satele and Marek
Bane and Zannah (Dynasty of Evil) have abducted both Revan (grandpa) & Juno. Satele enlists the aid of Galen (TFU II) to rescue both of them. But the second objective is to kill Bane and Zannah.
No rules. Fight takes place at Korriban.
Originally posted by axel_jovan
Bane and Zannah win in a close fight.
Though Marek is the most powerful combatant here, DS nexus grants Sith team a valuable advantage. Plus Satele is not enough to compensate for Jedi team lack of “fire power”.
Originally posted by axel_jovan
Stronger than Bane or Marek?...Seriously
This is Satele Shan as Jedi Knight:
http://www.swtor.com/info/media/trailers/hope-cinematic-trailer
I shudder to think what she would be as Grand Jedi Master.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
Roffles. Not only are Malak and Revan a match for Sidious solo in your book, but now Satele trumps Yoda. Wow.
Yoda is good.
Have you seen this episode: http://starwars.com/explore/the-clone-wars/ep101/
?
What impression this episode gives you? Yoda have limits too, don't you think?
As far as Revan is concerned; I do believe that Revan would be a good solo contest for Sidious. Did you conveniently forget that he is supposed to be counted among the "elite" Force-wielders in the mythos? Tell me how many individuals in the mythos have accomplished as much as Revan have?
Drew confirmed to be me via private conversation that Revan is capable of performing all of the flashy feats such as collapse buildings and such. Just because Drew didn't write a novel depicting Revan in this manner, doesn't means the character is not intended to be immensely powerful. In fact, it is implied in the novel that Revan's command in the Force is greater then that of everybody whom Meetra has met. Revan have even been compared to Vitiate in terms of capabilities at one point in the novel.
Revan's combat performance aboard Star Forge does cements his position among the likes of Satele and Yoda in my books.
Also, I do believe that Sidious can defeat Revan. However, it will be a fight to watch.
The Starkiller Clone is the weak link here.
Satele is stronger than Bane or Zannah, but that might not save her. Starkiller II has displayed tutanimus if IIRC, as has Satele Shan, together they might could pull a win. As the Jedi technique of tutanimus could negate the energies of Zannah's Sith technique of phantom tendrils.
Originally posted by Dolos
The Starkiller Clone is the weak link here.Satele is stronger than Bane or Zannah, but that might not save her. Starkiller II has displayed tutanimus if IIRC, as has Satele Shan, together they might could pull a win. As the Jedi technique of tutanimus could negate the energies of Zannah's Sith technique of phantom tendrils.
Though I believe that Starkiller can also handle Bane or Zannah in one-on-one basis under right circumstances. Let us give credit where due.
Originally posted by Dolos
The Starkiller Clone is the weak link here.
Satele is stronger than Bane or Zannah.
Not to mention team 1 has the advantage in the saber department. Bane and Zannah take this.
Originally posted by axel_jovan
I’m not aware of anything that puts her close in power to Bane or even Zannah, especially when they are on a DS nexus which grants them pretty ridiculous abilities like deadly force field or dark side tendrils…
IMO Satele from the trailer is impressive, but not as impressive as they are. Though, you are welcome to make a case for her, of course.Not to mention team 1 has the advantage in the saber department. Bane and Zannah take this.
Watch this trailer now:
http://www.swtor.com/info/media/trailers/return
This is young Malgus. The events depicted in the Hope trailer happen much later; Malgus has grown in power and experience by this time. In a source called "The Third Lesson", Malgus once again proved his mettle in a fight that took place a short while after the events depicted in the Hope trailer in the same world (planet). I suggest that you read "The Third Lesson" as well.
Once you will understand Malgus's capabilities, then you will be able to understand how potent Satele is.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Then you need to do some digging on capabilities of Malgus.Watch this trailer now:
http://www.swtor.com/info/media/trailers/return
This is young Malgus. The events depicted in the Hope trailer happen much later; Malgus has grown in power and experience by this time. In a source called "The Third Lesson", Malgus once again proved his mettle in a fight that took place a short while after the events depicted in the Hope trailer in the same world (planet). I suggest that you read "The Third Lesson" as well.
Once you will understand Malgus's capabilities, then you will be able to understand how potent Satele is.
No he won't.
He watches video game cinematics and uses solely that for Starkiller II.
Starkiller does things in the game that he can't really do pertaining to the canon-novels.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Please don't misrepresent my assertions. Where did I said that Satele trumps Yoda?
You said that by her showing she was on par with Yoda, and that one can only imagine how great she would be as a Master, therefore implying that she would become far more powerful, therefore implying that she is beyond Yoda.
Your arguments are weak. I understand it though, because if you put her above and beyond Yoda, then your unfounded belief that Revan and Malgus are more powerful than Bane, Zannah, Vader, and also capable of taking on Sidious solo almost makes sense.
Regardless, you have lost. That is all.
I'm sorry, I can't help but mention that Galen Marek is not a clone--the clone's name is Starkiller, the one more powerful than Marek. Unfortunately, I admit that Galen Marek and Satele Shan may possibly lose, but only barely. Marek was a... something in the Force. He soloed Kota, Kazdan Paratus, Shaak Ti, Maris Brood, Shadow Guard, Darth Vader, Palpatine, and he can solo Darth Maul, Ben Kenobi, Luke Skywalker, Darth Desolous and Darth Phobos, all with a Force Push. He has a wide array of force powers, which I feel is mostly displayed game-wise but don't hate on that either, it should count. I've only ever seen Satele solo Malgus before--losing both times--but Malgus was powerful, and she displayed lots of saber skill in each fight. Most of these replies just talk about the DS Nexus the others have and the others just become other off-topic debates. I say Marek and Shan may have a good chance of winning. 50/50 is my vote
The reason we're talking about the DS nexus is because Tempest some people dismiss a lot of what Bane and Zannah do on the basis of their best feats taking place on a DS nexus. There being a nexus here means that all their feats are in. Which is a pretty damning argument for their victory.
Also, tentacles.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
You said that by her showing she was on par with Yoda, and that one can only imagine how great she would be as a Master, therefore implying that she would become far more powerful, therefore implying that she is beyond Yoda.
I have also cited a source (which although a less realistic medium) involves Yoda in combat.
Tell me! You expect Yoda to break planets apart with a thought?
Why is it such a taboo for some fans of Star Wars to expect a predecessor of Yoda to be a match for him in power or possibly be stronger?
Take it easy, hon.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
Your arguments are weak. I understand it though, because if you put her above and beyond Yoda, then your unfounded belief that Revan and Malgus are more powerful than Bane, Zannah, Vader, and also capable of taking on Sidious solo almost makes sense.Regardless, you have lost. That is all.
I suggest that you stop underestimating TOR era greats.