I stated earlier that Achilles wouldn't be able to beat the alien in Pitch Black like Riddick did.
But Riddick had massive prep in that film. He studied their physiology and time to watch their movements.
In an arena fight with no knowledge Riddick would've died with no prep.
This is a straight up fight between Riddick and Achilles.
Riddick always has a blade and his vision.
Achilles his sword, shield and spear.
Riddick struggled against Lord Marshall as anyone in his fight class would. The fight wouldn't have turned out differently with Achilles fighting.
In an arena fight with these two. Achilles has the advantage. In a forum arena that Riddick can't take advantage of the light it is a insanely skilled man with a blade vs a peak level warrior with a better set of weapons.
Achilles showed more skill on the battlefield......he wins this fight.
Riddick will win many more exotic scenarios but here I think he gets bled out.
Originally posted by the ninjak
I stated earlier that Achilles wouldn't be able to beat the alien in Pitch Black like Riddick did.
But Riddick had massive prep in that film. He studied their physiology and time to watch their movements.
In an arena fight with no knowledge Riddick would've died with no prep.This is a straight up fight between Riddick and Achilles.
Riddick always has a blade and his vision.
Achilles his sword, shield and spear.Riddick struggled against Lord Marshall as anyone in his fight class would. The fight wouldn't have turned out differently with Achilles fighting.
In an arena fight with these two. Achilles has the advantage. In a forum arena that Riddick can't take advantage of the light it is a insanely skilled man with a blade vs a peak level warrior with a better set of weapons.
Achilles showed more skill on the battlefield......he wins this fight.
Riddick will win many more exotic scenarios but here I think he gets bled out.
Yup. Like I said in my earlier posts, if this fight were out in a streets or in a building where they're allowed to used their environment and stuff in their environment to their advantage, then I'd put my money on Riddick.
But in a fair fight in an open arena, Riddick's knives are no match for Achilles's sword and shield, let alone his spear.
Originally posted by FrothByte
But in a fair fight in an open arena, Riddick's knives are no match for Achilles's sword and shield, let alone his spear.
He'll snap his wooden spear like a tooth pick, and wouldn't take much effort for him to just blitz Achilles with knives, no matter what melee weapons he is armed with. 😂
Why? Despite what's been said, Achilles does NOT have better showings. Please get real.
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Originally posted by Dolos
He'll snap his wooden spear like a tooth pick, and wouldn't take much effort for him to just blitz Achilles with knives, no matter what melee weapons he is armed with. 😂Why? Despite what's been said, Achilles does NOT have better showings. Please get real.
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Snap his spear? Lol. These spears can parry full blows from swords. And if you've ever tried holding a real spear in your life, you'll know that they are not some spindly sticks that you could just "snap". Can you break them? Sure. Hector did break Achilles's spear. But Hector also had a shield to protect him from Achilles's spear attacks. For Riddick to break that spear he's going to need to come in close. How's Riddick going to block those spear attacks? He might be able to dodge one or two, but he's not that fast to avoid all.
As for better showings, are you kidding me? What have all the past pages been about? Achilles has been shown to best proven skilled combatants. Boagrius, undefeated champion of his people. Hector, undefeated champion of his kingdom. Both of these Achilles dispatched with ease.
What has Riddick done against one on one opponents? Got beat up by Lord Marshal. Killed some random prisoner with a teacup. Beat some random soldier wielding two battle axes that made him slow as dirt. Beat the pitch black alien, and that's got to be the best showing he's had. But as Ninjak pointed out, Riddick had sufficient time to study these aliens, plus you can't exactly call these aliens uber smart.
As for speed blitzing... you've got to be kidding right? Riddick isn't some flash-like speedster. Yes he's fast, but so is Achilles. Achilles all but speed-blitzed boagrius after all. Foot race? Yes Riddick is probably faster. Battle speed? Toss up. I don't think either can blitz the other.
Besides, speed is a relevant term. Either you're very fast, or maybe your opponent is just very slow. So tell you what, post a vid where we can fully see Riddick's battle speed. I'll post a vid of Achilles, and then we'll compare how fast they move in comparison to each other.
Originally posted by Robtard
Riddick could easily avoid the spear, step in and then it's his game. CQC favors knives over a spear and shield.
Claiming that Riddick can easily side step the spear, close in, and start using his knives have about as much proof as me claiming that Achilles can easily step back out of reach and return to using his spear.
Achilles also has the option to use his short sword which gives him advantage again over knives.
There's a reason why a "reach advantage" is considered an "advantage". That's because people with longer reaches ARE in the advantage. In this case, reach advantage goes to Achilles. Now sure, Riddick can step through those attacks and close in but that's entirely dependent on how skilled his opponent is. Seeing how extremely skilled Achilles is with his weapons you can't simply claim that Riddick can easily close in. Unless 1 of them is clearly shown as superior in skill, then the extra reach is still in advantage.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Snap his spear? Lol. These spears can parry full blows from swords. And if you've ever tried holding a real spear in your life, you'll know that they are not some spindly sticks that you could just "snap". Can you break them? Sure. Hector did break Achilles's spear. But Hector also had a shield to protect him from Achilles's spear attacks. For Riddick to break that spear he's going to need to come in close. How's Riddick going to block those spear attacks? He might be able to dodge one or two, but he's not that fast to avoid all.As for better showings, are you kidding me? What have all the past pages been about? Achilles has been shown to best proven skilled combatants. Boagrius, undefeated champion of his people. Hector, undefeated champion of his kingdom. Both of these Achilles dispatched with ease.
What has Riddick done against one on one opponents? Got beat up by Lord Marshal. Killed some random prisoner with a teacup. Beat some random soldier wielding two battle axes that made him slow as dirt. Beat the pitch black alien, and that's got to be the best showing he's had. But as Ninjak pointed out, Riddick had sufficient time to study these aliens, plus you can't exactly call these aliens uber smart.
As for speed blitzing... you've got to be kidding right? Riddick isn't some flash-like speedster. Yes he's fast, but so is Achilles. Achilles all but speed-blitzed boagrius after all. Foot race? Yes Riddick is probably faster. Battle speed? Toss up. I don't think either can blitz the other.
Besides, speed is a relevant term. Either you're very fast, or maybe your opponent is just very slow. So tell you what, post a vid where we can fully see Riddick's battle speed. I'll post a vid of Achilles, and then we'll compare how fast they move in comparison to each other.
Riddick, a Furyan, is stronger than a Vulcan from what I've seen. He can make a spear of that era snap, even though it's made of carved oak.
Riddick mowed through 20 super-human Necromongers armed with ranged and melee weapons in moments, by comparison it took Achilles a lot longer to murk 12 (in the director's cut) humans without ranged weapons, they had ancient and pathetic weaponry.
The guy Riddick killed could crush Boagrias and Ajax at the same time...and he killed him effortlessly. The guy, as with all Necromongers, was insanely fast.
Riddick is stronger, quicker, and can kill quicker. He's smarter, more skilled, and inhuman. Achilles is overrated tbh.