Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Oh, that's why several characters killed with it reappear in the series as spirits later, right?Link is protected by an artifact capable of countering the power of the completed triforce, a spell that can be stopped if your mom loves you is not going to hurt him, no matter how many times it's fired.
Ganondorf has massive magic resistance, it takes planetary level magic in the form of the Master Sword to put him down, avada kedavra lacks any kind of feat to put it on a level where it could make him blink. He utterly no sells the HPverse's best shots by feats.
Worthless against any of the characters mentioned. No limits fallacy. It's never absorbed anything approaching the level of magic it takes to [b]turn off the sun
, or overlap an entire country with another dimension, or disintegrate a 6x6x4 stone block.This would potentially work on Midna, both Ganondorf and Link are beyond the scope of being affected by said spells due to their protection from the ToP and the Master Sword/ToC respectively.
The numbers don't mean a thing if none of them can even effect Ganondorf, who with a single twilight field reduces every wizard on the field to a helpless soul who cannot even fight back. [/B]
Any one of those three could easily take three or four wizards, but the movies have to many capable fighters for them.
on which soul woul pass on.
The fused shadow, ToP, or master sword would be able to block it if they went for a dead man's volley, but if their timing was off or they get from the back qhile a wizard distracts them, they would go down.
The sword has been shown to dispel and protect Link from curses and magical affects even if he's not touching it, he could take direct hits from the killing curse and no wizard has the power to overcome the MS' protection.
The ToC is honestly in the same boat, he's carrying not one, but two artifacts that protect him.
Ganondorf has the ToP, which makes him functionally immortal. The only way that's been shown to ever put him down has been a level of magic beyond anything in the HPverse. The master sword is a magical artefact with planetary level magic, that can directly counter the power of the completed triforce, that's the kind of power it takes to bring Ganondorf down, the Potterverse simply lacks it.
Love charm needs a sacrifice of pure love, untainted by lust or selfish desire. Considering all three of the heavy hitters are orphans, no love charm.My point is that even in universe the love charm is noted as being simple by Voldemort himself, and that the level of protection it gives doesn't match the resistance given by carrying a piece of the triforce.
C. The goblin silver is stated to take in anything that would make it more powerful. I see no reason why that wouldn't work here.
Don't give me that. The light spirit made link so high with his mental thing, you would need a longshot to reach him(hehe zelda humor), and ganondorf did get a visit from zant when he died.Being shown a vision is not a mental attack, haermm
Zant's appearance isn't a mental attack, either. Now I bring up the master sword again, and then tell you that Ganondorf has his own mental attacks such as possession, and can also read minds as shown in WW, and alluded to in TP, and that he is far and away more powerful than anyone who would try to assault him.
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The numbers don't mean a thing if none of them can even effect Ganondorf, who with a single twilight field reduces every wizard on the field to a helpless soul who cannot even fight back.
The master sword isn't on a planetary level. Once it is removed from the pedestal it is nothing more than a sharp blade, unless two or more beings pray to it. You could argue that zelda may have fulfilled this function, but she is out of play by the time you get to it and no other character seems to be in a prayin mood.
Ganondorf has a soul and is capable of death. If he doesn't make a conscious action to deflect the killing curse, he will go down. The only attack he ever tanked in TP was a spirit sword. For all we know, he could be a glass canon.
The only mental attack he was capable of was taking over zelda, who already took herself out of commission earlier. Link was clearly trying to resist the snakes vision at first. Ganondorf MAY put up a small fight against mental attacks, but no one else can.
As for the twilight. Light spirits are capable of dispelling it. And what are light spirits but big patronuses. Shouldn't be a problem.
The master sword isn't on a planetary level.
It's a direct failsafe for the power of the completed triforce. While depowered it was still strong enough to hold all of Hyrule, possibly the entire world in a perpetual time stop. So, yeah.
Ganondorf has a soul and is capable of death.
If he doesn't make a conscious action to deflect the killing curse, he will go down.No limit fallacy. You need to prove this curse is capable of harming him at all.
For all we know, he could be a glass canon.Because the fused shadows hitting him so hard his castle exploded never happened? 😛
The only mental attack he was capable of was taking over zelda, who already took herself out of commission earlier.
What did she separate herself from that left her weakened? The triforce of wisdom. Just sayin'.
As for the twilight. Light spirits are capable of dispelling it.
Oh, you mean the regional quasi-dieties? Not at all comparable to patronuses.
Zant could defeat them with a thought using only a fraction of Ganon's own power. Ganondorf will be actively present during this fight, so lol.
You know, in the original zelda you beat ganon without the master sword or the triforce. He isn't indestructible. The killing curse doesn't cause blunt force trauma or any sort of heart stopping electrical power. It is stated to attack your soul, regardless of physical endurance.
The master sword is only PART of the failsafe, along with the temple of time, ocarina of time, and pedestal of time which acted as a gateway to the sacred realm. You know that place with enough power to contain the entire triforce. As soon as link took it out, it lost all it's planetary powers. Also hyrule is a COUNTRY not a planet. You're over estimating the zelda team. Could any one of them take any wizard? Sure. Can thet take the hogwarts staff, dumbeldore's army, order of the phoenix, deatheaters, voldemort, harry, hermoine, and dumbeldore WITH elder wand? Not likely.
You know, in the original zelda you beat ganon without the master sword or the triforce.
The killing curse doesn't cause blunt force trauma or any sort of heart stopping electrical power. It is stated to attack your soul, regardless of physical endurance.No, it isn't, get me a quote that proves that it is because what you've cited so far does not say that.
The curse is not even approaching the power that has been used on Ganon before, ergo, it cannot effect him.
The master sword is only PART of the failsafe,
Neg. The master sword IS the fail safe against the triforce being attained and abused, not against it being gotten in the first place.
As soon as link took it out, it lost all it's planetary powers.Then how come it can still counter the power of the triforce?
Because the master sword par with it in power. This is not hard.
Also hyrule is a COUNTRY not a planet.
At least all of Hyrule was frozen, but you can see, the timestop goes to the horizon at least, and it's not just Hyrule that was flooded, the entire world was. This is while the sword was weakened. haermm
Sure. Can thet take the hogwarts staff, dumbeldore's army, order of the phoenix, deatheaters, voldemort, harry, hermoine, and dumbeldore WITH elder wand?With ease. 😐 You're not getting what I'm saying.
The HPverse wizards do not have the necessary raw power to overcome the resistances of either Link or Ganon. Provide a feat that shows they have the power to effect someone protected by the kind of shit that they are.
Ganon can literally one shot the entire cast of the HPverse with a thought.
Midna could destroy hogwarts, and it's doubtful their spells can even effect her Fused Shadows form.
Link could wade through their fire, protected by his sword and cut each and every one of them down without breaking a sweat.
It'd be in interesting match if Dorf was just able to bring down Twilight, and I don't think anyone here has soul resistance feats.
Interesting mainly due to numbers. We can all agree that the HP verse are all mid level threats in the LoZ verse. The only treats are a few spells from teacher+ level wizards, dementors and a handful of monsters.. the main threat is not their quality but their quantity.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you interested blood rain ? Paste for all his bluster won't ever put himself on the line.
Originally posted by BloodRainI won't have the time to dedicate unless it was not the next week but the following week thereafter. I will have free time from Monday through Thursday to do this.In a few months?.. aren't we already debating HPs strongest wizard against TPs strongest wizard? The victor of that would spell victory for their respected verse.
This battlezone won't be about Potter characters going back in time, freezing everyone in their tracks, or using twilight magic. This is going to be about an invasion. It's not the type of thread where one mega weapon or spell, etc. will be argued to win the entire thread.
Each side can teams up both good and bad foes against each other in an army versus an army thread. That is the spirit of the thread.
So you will have Zelda, the sages, Zant, Ganondorf, etc. in a concerted effort to stop Voldemort, Albus Dumbledore, Severus Snape, Harry Potter, etc. from conquering the other.
Cite that, I've read the books myself, and cannot recall it, I can recall the spirits of people killed with it showing up later on.
I'm not talking about Ganon's physical resistance either, though that may well be enough as the curse has shown to blockable, and has even failed to damage an animate statue.
Ganondorf's magic resistance combined with his immortality is the real nail in the coffin, though. He was attacked by the Fused Shadows and it did nothing to him, and he simply can't be killed unless the Triforce of Power can be overcome. The killing curse cannot overcome the Triforce of Power without a good enough feat.
Its more implied than actually stated. Horcruxes protect your soul, prior incantantum (butchered that spelling) undoes the last spell by the caster and brought the souls back, not the bodies, harry survived being shot not because of the love charm, but because he had an extra soul, the curse didn't kill the animated statue, which didn't have a soul. Obviously this spell effects something spiritual rather than physical.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Its more implied than actually stated. Horcruxes protect your soul, prior incantantum (butchered that spelling) undoes the last spell by the caster and brought the souls back, not the bodies,
That doesn't mean much TBH.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
harry survived being shot not because of the love charm, but because he had an extra soul,
He survived because Lily's protection flowed through Voldemort's veins. In effect, Voldemort was serving as a pseudo-horcrux for Harry. Dumbledore describes this in the book.
One could also argue that, since Voldemort was using the Elder Wand, it could not harm Harry. But the two souls is pure speculation.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
the curse didn't kill the animated statue, which didn't have a soul.
First, it's not alive so it can't be killed. And secondly the spell did blow it apart.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Obviously this spell effects something spiritual rather than physical.
No, that's a theory. Not a fact.