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In any scenario I think Mace has a handy aid in Vaapad. There's been argument that perhaps he could use shatterpoint to find a way to defeat Orbalisk Bane, but even finding a weakness doesn't make for a guaranteed kill because of Bane's regen.
DoE incarnation has some pretty ridiculous speed to overcome, and his total Force knowledge and ability I think puts him over Mace. If somehow he can't bring anything but sabers to bare, I give Mace a pretty even chance considering that the was able to stand against Sidious. If Bane can utilize all of his abilities, then I don't know that Windu can defeat him, even feeding off of Bane's on darkside energies.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
In any scenario I think Mace has a handy aid in Vaapad. There's been argument that perhaps he could use shatterpoint to find a way to defeat Orbalisk Bane, but even finding a weakness doesn't make for a guaranteed kill because of Bane's regen.DoE incarnation has some pretty ridiculous speed to overcome, and his total Force knowledge and ability I think puts him over Mace. If somehow he can't bring anything but sabers to bare, I give Mace a pretty even chance considering that the was able to stand against Sidious. If Bane can utilize all of his abilities, then I don't know that Windu can defeat him, even feeding off of Bane's on darkside energies.
Good points.
It could go either way.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'm voting Bane--He's probably slightly faster, and stronger, and more powerful with the Force than Sidious's ROTS incarnation, who proved alone to be Mace's superior, amped or not.Bane wins.
Can i see the feats of Bane that make him faster.. and more powerful than Sids
Originally posted by axel_jovan
It really depends on what incarnation of Bane it is.
PoD Bane dies a horrible death; RoT Bane would give Mace hell, mainly due to Orbalisks; DoE Bane would be a very hard challenge.
I would only change that RoT Bane stomps. He was pretty damn beastly and nearly unstoppable
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
BASED ON WHAT FEATS WOULD ROT BANE STOMP? Smple questionAGAIN.. WHICH FEATS OF BANE make him faster and more powerful Sids? What kinda kool-aid are you guys drinking today? Jim Jones Kool-Aid?
The speed feats are a display of bladework that he showed during a downpour in which he moved both his saber and body so quickly that not a single drop touched him. You can look up the scene as it's pretty well described. He also managed to survive his apprentice trying to cut him down while he was completely unarmed and in an enclosed hallway.
As to the power feats it's been debated both way. Disintegration of attackers and leveling a temple via Force Wave, vaporizing opponents with a Darkside field, Force Lightning of one million volts.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
As to the power feats it's been debated both way. Disintegration of attackers and leveling a temple via Force Wave, vaporizing opponents with a Darkside field, Force Lightning of one million volts.
I submit that Bane is not faster in combat than Sidious, after all where was his speed when he fought for his life in DoE?
It seems to me that 'rain feat' =/= 'combat feat'
After all Agen Kolar (? IIRC) was descirbed to essentially have reflexes to pilot a ship in a speed that exceeds lightspeed....if we take that he can display such reflexes in combat, Kolar would be nothing short of a Force-god.
Neither Kolar nor Bane replicated that speed in combat (to my knowledge) therefore it is possible to conclude that they simply can't/won't do it at whim in a combat scenario.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
BASED ON WHAT FEATS WOULD ROT BANE STOMP? Smple questionAGAIN.. WHICH FEATS OF BANE make him faster and more powerful Sids? What kinda kool-aid are you guys drinking today? Jim Jones Kool-Aid?
Based on him taking on 4(?) of the most powerful/skilled Jedi of his time simultaneously while they were powered up by BM. I know Sids is better than the Jedi were but i think he would have had more trouble than Bane did with them due to Bane having armor.
Bane is rather powerful, with or without orbalisks. His RoT incarnation would have a definite edge against Windu since he doesn't have force lightning to damage Bane's orbalisks. Windu probably takes DoE Bane with Vaapad and shatterpoints, but I wouldn't be surprised if he came out with a limb or two missing.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
I've changed my mind on one thing. I still vote Darth Bane for the win in this battle, but I declare ROTS Sidious more powerful than Darth Bane without his Orbalisk Armor. With it, I'm not so sure.
G-Canon dictates that Sidious is the strongest sith lord ever of Bane's Sith Order. Sidious's Force Lightning should be powerful enough to fry Bane's orbalisk armor. Even Mace Windu almost got a face-ful of purple saber due to the lightning.
Originally posted by juggerman
Based on him taking on 4(?) of the most powerful/skilled Jedi of his time simultaneously while they were powered up by BM.
Correction. Bane took on only three Jedi empowered by BM (It's only four if we count the one using BM and he wasn't fighting) and one of the Jedi was utter shit.
Anyway, the idea that Bane stomps is straight up laughable.