Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Jean's hawt. So is Mera.
being hot doesn't excuse being an enormous **** who gets more praise than she'll ever deserve.
mera's a good woman though; she's someone I could get in to.
Originally posted by Galan007
Cry for Justice
Godyssey
Ultimatum...Pak's Batman/Superman
yeah, it's pretty bad.
Originally posted by Galan007
Cry for Justice
Godyssey
Ultimatum...Pak's Batman/Superman
Originally posted by -Pr-I'm gonna visit Arizona and Ireland soon to beat some sense into your faces. Shut up both of you. sneer
being hot doesn't excuse being an enormous **** who gets more praise than she'll ever deserve.mera's a good woman though; she's someone I could get in to.
yeah, it's pretty bad.
Seems like a lot of my Worst list would come from the pages of Spider-Man. Not sure if its because I normally really like the character or because he gets mishandled so badly. I'd say the entire Loeb run on Hulk, starting with WWH was, to me, pretty horrific to read.
As for Jean, being hot on a team full of hot chicks makes it hard to stand out, especially when shes boringly arrogant and a generally bland character caught in a bland love triangle. And somehowI still like her more than Emma.
Originally posted by comicfan11
JLA Act of God (Elseworlds mini written by Doug Moench)
Although is should be called Batman Act of Batgod.A colossal middle finger to the ENTIRE DCU, except for the Bat family of course.
All the heroes loose their powers and turn to whiny, pathetic, dysfunctional little b1thces who need Batsavior to tell them what to do.
Atlantis and Themyscira are barely mentioned and Artur and Diana don't even make an attempt to find out what happened to their kingdoms.
They just mop.
They are like "oh sh1t we lost our powers, tough luck for all the people of Atlantis who probably drowned or the Amazons who might have lost their immortality".Superman, WW and all the others basically give up and say "we are useless pieces of meat without our powers"
Also both Aquaman and Martian Manhunter need training from Batman because they are useless and had no training at all.
A warrior and an elite alien "manhunter" need Batsus to teach them how to walk.Linkara shredded this one in 3 parts and I might even say he was kinda lenient, despite calling it the worst thing he reviewed up to that point.
Also it's amazing because it's not insulting to 1 or 2 characters.
Moench manages to insult everyone not Bat related.
Superman, WW, MM, Aquaman, Kyle, Wally, Steel, Booster, etc etc.
Superman especially gets sh@t on royally.
I was just re-reading about that. Surprising that Doug Moench wrote it; he made his distinguished career by sticking almost exclusively to single hero books - Batman, Shang-Chi, Moon Knight - and not by writing any kind of superhero crossover series. Obviously, it wasn't his strength.
Atlantis and Themyscira are barely mentioned and Artur and Diana don't even make an attempt to find out what happened to their kingdoms.
They just mop.
They are like "oh sh1t we lost our powers, tough luck for all the people of Atlantis who probably drowned or the Amazons who might have lost their immortality".Superman, WW and all the others basically give up and say "we are useless pieces of meat without our powers"
Yes, Wonder Woman, former street-level hero whenever she's lost her powers in the past, can't just do so again.
Also? She turns to Catholicism due to the loss.
Now, think about that. She was raised a Greek Pantheon worshipper and has met her gods.
Superman, WW, MM, Aquaman, Kyle, Wally, Steel, Booster, etc etc.
Though I did kinda like the part where Kyle managed to take down one of his tech-powered villains even without powers.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Ultimatum
Cry for Justice
[B]Chaos War
Age of Ultron
DC Millennium
Avengers assembles
Eternals Chuck Austin [/B]
Oh yeah.
Chaos ****ing War.
How could I forgot.
It seems that Pak has a pattern: every time he does something great, he has to ruin it immediatly after.
Planet Hulk -> Awesome
World War Hulk -> Well, it wasn't a disaster, but it wasn't remotly near the quality of Planet Hulk
Incredible Hercules -> One of the greatest and funniest read I ever had
Chaos War -> Pak shat on the Hercules character and his fans. And in the process, he ret-coned a botload of things to. This was one of the stupidest and baddest read ever.
Originally posted by roughrider
I was just re-reading about that. Surprising that Doug Moench wrote it; he made his distinguished career by sticking almost exclusively to single hero books - Batman, Shang-Chi, Moon Knight - and not by writing any kind of superhero crossover series. Obviously, it wasn't his strength.
Not his strength to say the least.
He has written some great Bat stories and one of the best Bat Elseworlds with the Bat-Vampire trilogy but man o man this mini was spiteful.
This was hate for the DCU personified.
Heck a any biased Marvel Zombie writing this would be more respectful.
Originally posted by Q99
Yes, Wonder Woman, former street-level hero whenever she's lost her powers in the past, can't just do so again.Also? She turns to Catholicism due to the loss.
Now, think about that. She was raised a Greek Pantheon worshipper and has met her gods.
Though I did kinda like the part where Kyle managed to take down one of his tech-powered villains even without powers.
LOL I almost forgot WW questioning the existence of her Gods, after having met them.
Aquaman also meeting Poseidon.
And even the Kyle instance happened after he locked himself in his apartment for months, broke up with his gf, DIDN'T CHANGE CLOTHES FOR MONTHS and generally mopped like a little whiny *****.
At least Moench was consistent on his $hiting.
Originally posted by comicfan11
LOL I almost forgot WW questioning the existence of her Gods, after having met them.
"Sure, they literally gave me life in a more direct fashion than anyone else on the planet, also gave me powers with which I used to fight evil every day, and I talked to them on a semi-regularly basis. But what have they done to prove their existence to me lately?"
Originally posted by Q99
"Sure, they literally gave me life in a more direct fashion than anyone else on the planet, also gave me powers with which I used to fight evil every day, and I talked to them on a semi-regularly basis. But what have they done to prove their existence to me lately?"
😆 😆 True, so very true.
I imagine Moench's though process about the characters.
Batman = greatest human being ever, greatest MArtist, detective, leader, scientist, etc etc etc
Then
Superman = not Batman
Aquaman = not Batman
WW = not Batman
...
A f@ck it just depower them and have them worship the ground Batman walks.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well I haven't actually read it, but I suppose it would be possible that instead of questioning their existence, she could just be questioning their power/status as gods, as they weren't able to prevent everyone being depowered... still massively OOC but slightly more believable?
I seriously recommend the Linkara 3 part video review of this comic.
Good fun, but it will also piss you off if you start thinking about how badly the characters are treated.
I rate this comic as worse than the following and that should say something.
Countdown (it messed around with the entire DCU, but I see it more like a marketing tool than an actual comic).
Amazons Attack (it $hat on the Amazons, but not the entire DCU)
One More Day (dealt exclusively with Spiderman)
Clone debacle (again Spiderman only)
But this one although it's an Elseworlds the characters are 100% the same. No different costumes, dystopian times, different eras or smthing.
These are supposed to be the normal DCU heroes.
Ans it $hits on all of them.
No one escapes the spite.
Man this comic is evil.
Check the Linkara reviews man, they make a good point.
Originally posted by comicfan11
Countdown (it messed around with the entire DCU, but I see it more like a marketing tool than an actual comic).
Things about Countdown: It explored a big part of the multiverse, revealing mostly the most boring universes and leaving little room for writers to get creative, then it blew a bunch of them up.
It was mainly about characters going on quests that largely didn't matter (I think Pied Piper's was the only one I liked and the only one that did much).
It made Captain Atom evil because.... well, they never do say why.
It had a major plotline about the Monitors trying to decide if they should do something. They don't.
It was a countdown to an event which it's story didn't actually mesh with or properly lead into, despite the first issues of FC being written before it started.
Amazons Attack (it $hat on the Amazons, but not the entire DCU)
And which, weirdly, didn't feature Wonder Woman, even though at the time the intent was for it to push Wonder Woman after her titles sales started to slip due to issue delays. Yes, they thought 'randomly villainize the entire supporting cast,' would somehow make people more interested, rather than the reality of far less.
Clone debacle (again Spiderman only)
Unusually, a surprising amount of good stuff has come from it's aftermath, sorta. Not at the time, but later on we got MC2 with Spider-girl, and recently Scarlet Spider in the main universe.
But this one although it's an Elseworlds the characters are 100% the same. No different costumes, dystopian times, different eras or smthing.
These are supposed to be the normal DCU heroes.
Indeed. And, when it first came out, this is why it got initial positive reception!
"Wow, an Elseworld showing something happening to *our* heroes!* And having them all depowered, that's interesting!"
It's just one where, the longer you think about it, the worst it gets. And it never stops getting worse.
*Most Elseworlds are 'here's an alternate version of the characters who, during the course of the story, fall into their normal roles. Which is why Elseworlds tend to be weaker than Marvel What Ifs, generally speaking.