H'el vs. WBH

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
DCnU Superman has already a strength feat that dwaves any strength feat hulk or WBH EVER had. The twice the size of Earth feat ist nice, it's a durability feat, Hulk was just a bullet, and any herlad would replicate it with ease.
WBH Planetbuster was good, but it was an shared feat from him and amped Betty, it's similar to Supermans Punching feat where you could feel them in the atmosphere.

And H'el is stronger then Superman at the moment.

H'el also showed a greater durability or at least a similar to WBH.

Still he is insanely faster then WBH, has TP and TK, can Teleport etc. WBH can do nothing to harm him, except if H'el allows him to land a punch and even the he proved he can take it.

A calm Hulk is punching someone causing planetary destruction. Just be quiet. The Superman ft was alright (even though they compared his punches to mountain pushing) but nothing compared to Hulks.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173003/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_010.jpg.html

Hes punching.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173009/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_011.jpg.html

Scientist never seen readings like this. Parts of the planet is being destroyed.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173017/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_012.jpg.html

Still punching, part of the planet is being destroyed. This is a planetary ft, far superior than mountain busting and this is from a calm Hulk. Go sit in a corner.

Warned for lowballing.

I'm not lowballing, Batman Prime is lowballing.

You both are.

I admit, I got a lil upset at his post but come on, you have to admit his was worse than mine (even though I didn't lowball) but whatever, I accept my warning (yet again).

Arguing about it, and ignoring something you blatantly did, only makes it worse.

Yours was just as bad as his.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Arguing about it, and ignoring something you blatantly did, only makes it worse.

Yours was just as bad as his.

No, I admitted I was just as wrong as he was and I let a lil anger get in the way of my post. If he would have replied to my comment, 10 times out of 10, I would have ignored it. I accept my warning.

Originally posted by carver9
A calm Hulk is punching someone causing planetary destruction. Just be quiet. The Superman ft was alright (even though they compared his punches to mountain pushing...lol) but nothing compared to Hulks.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173003/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_010.jpg.html

Hes punching.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173009/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_011.jpg.html

Scientist never seen readings like this. Parts of the planet is being destroyed.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/10173017/The_Incredible_Hulk_03_012.jpg.html

Still punching, part of the planet is being destroyed. This is a planetary ft, far superior than mountain busting and this is from a calm Hulk. Go sit in a corner.

Still the Superman punches were better. First the scientist noted that his strength is even greater than estimated, while bench pressing earth for 5 days wihtout the sun. Second H'el absorbed most of the force with his face and the little bit that came through was enough to be felt worldwide and even in the space! Third, Superman is still holding back.

You didn't counter H'els insanely superior speed, TK, TP and Teleportation...

DCnU Superman is without a doubt stronger then WBH or at the very least as strong, he has the better feat, bench pressing earth. H'el is at the moment even stronger.
H'el took those punches, which proved he is beyond WBH durability wise or at the very least on the same level. WBH tanked just punches of C-Class "Villains" who wouldn't even phase him.
And WBH is a statue comparing to the speed Superman and H'el are moving at.

Carver, WBH can't even connect once if H'el doesn't want him to. He can take WBH best punch if he wants to. And he can deliver more pain in a short time, then Hulks HF can take.

Originally posted by carver9
No, I admitted I was just as wrong as he was and I let a lil anger get in the way of my post. If he would have replied to my comment, 10 times out of 10, I would have ignored it. I accept my warning.

You said:

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not lowballing, Batman Prime is lowballing.

😬

It wasn't even a serious warning, but you're tempting me to make it one, tbh.

H'el was able to teleport super girl to the sun (not sure from the sun or not but still) what's stopping him from doing the same to hulk? If not BFR just beating the crap out of him (exotic powers as well as fists) on the surface of the sun where its hot, powering H'el and no air.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You said:

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It wasn't even a serious warning, but you're tempting me to make it one, tbh.

Dang, I worded that wrong.

How am I tempting you when overall, I agree with you (somebody save me, I don't know what else to say). I'm done though and I think you agree with me, WBH wins.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
H'el was able to teleport super girl to the sun (not sure from the sun or not but still) what's stopping him from doing the same to hulk? If not BFR just beating the crap out of him (exotic powers as well as fists) on the surface of the sun where its hot, powering H'el and no air.

That's self bfr and what does "no air" have to do with anything? I already showed you scans last month proving Hulk doesn't need to breath.

Originally posted by carver9
Dang, I worded that wrong.

How am I tempting you when overall, I agree with you (somebody save me, I don't know what else to say). I'm done though and I think you agree with me, WBH wins.

I don't think so.

But seriously. How will WBH win if he is to slow to even touch H'el?
How do you beat someone who hits as hard as you or maybe harder, who can take the same amount of damage as you or even more but who is much much faster, can teleport has TK and TP? Seriously carv?

@Batman Prime...

Superman bench pressing ft was impressive but its a planetary ft and Savage Hulk have plenty of those. Then its a one time deal, not consistent with the character or his strength fts whereas WBH and WWH consistently portrayed that type of power, even Savage Hulk. This version of Superman hasn't proven anything to me showing he is on ulks level of strength and I'm not even using WBH here. I would say he is stronger than most Heralds but not on Hulks level yet but close.

As for H'el, impressive character but like rage and others said, WBH was operating on levels that a skyfather was unable to counter/keep up with. Hulk has fts of pushing through planetary power, punching with planetary force, and the list goes on. I don't have to cling to one ft to help my argument when I have plenty to aid me.

Superman has planetary feats. Plural. Ignoring them won't change that.

Pr, this isn't me lowballing, I'm bringing up consistency which Hyperion nor Superman will consistently be pushing that type of power.

Originally posted by carver9
Pr, this isn't me lowballing, I'm bringing up consistency which Hyperion nor Superman will consistently be pushing that type of power.

You are lowballing, though, by including WWH, when he wasn't above most heralds.

@carver not sure if I'm the one you showed those scans too but I'll just accept it as is. Mind you I think hulk would wreck H'el in a H2H fight but would get BFR by H'el the moment he saw the threat he was dealing with.

Also how fast was WBHulk? Scans if you have them as I dont remember off the top of my head what lvl of speed he was operating at. (tend to just stare at his strength feats when I read hulk)

Self BFR? It still counts if you take your opponent with you? Never really argued such a point as 'takes him here' so i didnt know that if it's true. (thanks for telling me 👆 )

Originally posted by -Pr-
You are lowballing, though, by including WWH, when he wasn't above most heralds.

I'm not using him as a totem pole, I'm saying he showed planetary strength as well but on a consistent bases, just like Savage Hulk has. If we were arguing people like Colossus or Thing, then I can see a reason for Batman prime to be throwing out planetary fts, but we are talking about Heralds and trans tier beings.