URM.. does Vader do anything on the level of EU feats? If not Im going to say.. Kain 6/10.
Both have equal leveled TK. Vadar's faster, Kain's stronger. Vader has the better cutting weapon, Kain has some extra spells up his sleeve and it might be those spells that with some range that give him the edge.
Originally posted by XanatosForeverBanning the force would be bullshit. haermm
I see films, so probably not. Vader might be able to manage, depending on if he can manipulate the Force from Nosgoth.
In a sword fight Vader wins due to precog and superior combat speed and skill, and his TK is still probably stronger, but Kain has other powers that can close the gap.
It's a toss up.
So pretty featless.. and not on the level of Starkiller bringing down a km long starship? TK's moot then. mmm
As precog > teleporting, this is a highly skilled super-cutting Lightsaber user with precog vs Mist form and time-slow powers.
Precog and speed might overpower his level of time control.. may change my opinion to Vader 6/10.
Originally posted by BloodRainWhat from the movies has so impressed you about precog ? Seriously, I hear this all the time. Explain.
So pretty featless.. and not on the level of Starkiller bringing down a km long starship? TK's moot then. mmmAs precog > teleporting, this is a highly skilled super-cutting Lightsaber user with precog vs Mist form and time-slow powers.
Precog and speed might overpower his level of time control.. may change my opinion to Vader 6/10.
Originally posted by BloodRainNot moot, really. Raziel could manipulate Kain with his TK and throw him around. Anakin could toss around waves or droids and debris.
So pretty featless.. and not on the level of Starkiller bringing down a km long starship? TK's moot then. mmmAs precog > teleporting, this is a highly skilled super-cutting Lightsaber user with precog vs Mist form and time-slow powers.
Precog and speed might overpower his level of time control.. may change my opinion to Vader 6/10.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What from the movies has so impressed you about precog ? Seriously, I hear this all the time. Explain.
Im just going on the train of thought that if he has any kind of precog that can tell him of an incoming attack/danger, he will be able to defend himself from a teleoporting or time slow-attack.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not moot, really. Raziel could manipulate Kain with his TK and throw him around. Anakin could toss around waves or droids and debris.
Originally posted by BloodRainWe see Vader jump into Obi wan's path despite Obi begging with him not to do it. Vader is impulsive and an emotional wreck. Even when his opponent tells him not to he still does it and loses anyway.
/shrugs/Im just going on the train of thought that if he has any kind of precog that can tell him of an incoming attack/danger, he will be able to defend himself from a teleoporting or time slow-attack.
Raziel can TK push/slide those rock cubes around. Near enough equal to that Anakin one.
Yeah. He thought his wife had betrayed him to the Jedi Order because Obi-Wan snuck aboard her ship. And then he choked her to death. He was also dealing with the fact that Mace Windu was dead because of him, and dozens of younglings and other Jedi at the temple. He was phucked in the head during that fight.
Originally posted by BloodRainYes, you can since he was darth vader pre suit. He was more formidable without the suit as opposed to with it.
Can't say Vader and not want us not to think the black-suited asthmatic variety.However in that moment his head was pretty wrecked because of the wife or.. something. Im sure if he was in his right state of mind he wouldn't back-flip into lava.
Vader's whole deal was he was an emotional lunatic. The guy ended up betraying the Emperor in the end. Guy turned on everyone because he was mentally as weak as they come.